We have done R&S 1-7. I'm extremely happy we did. We are now doing CLE 7. CLE 7 still has much review over R&S 7, but it does cover things R&S 7 does not. My dc are in 7th grade, and we did math over the summers to finish R&S 7 in 6th grade. I'm happy we did not do CLE earlier, because it is more advanced in the earlier grades...more than need be in my opinion. I'm very happy with the progression we did. Next year????

My dc did R&S through 7, now they're doing CLE 7. It seems to be a good fit. I wouldn't change it. I would not begin doing CLE earlier...R&S really cements the basics. BTW, some of CLE 7 is review, and other concepts are new.

Here is a debate of this issue posted on the Christian Research's website: http://www.equip.org/articles/the-divine-sovereignty-human-responsibility-debate I am not reformed. It seems to me to make a mockery of most of the Bible where God calls men to himself. In Matthew 23:37, Jesus says: "Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling...." I believe Jesus meant what he said here. I don't see how a Calvinist could read this scripture and interprete it, but would like to know! Also, without true free choice, in the Calvinists view, our Lord becomes the author of evil. This cannot be. However, this not a salvation issue. This is an argument among Christians.

Bumping this.... My dc are doing LP3 this year. I don't think they'll be ready for translating the Aeneid after finishing. I don't think LP 1-3 equals finishing Wheelock's, for example. In fact, after finishing LP 1 and 2, dc are not considered to be half way through Wheelocks. (I'm only saying this after investigaing an online class using Wheelocks. Although they've done well in LP 1 and 2, and scored gold on the National Latin 1 exam, they still would need to begin over again with Wheelocks and the class would be mostly review until Spring. The class moves very quickly.) As far as the Nat. Latin Exam goes, I think dc should finish LP 2 before taking exam 1. However, I'm anxious to here what others think too. AS far as using LP for a 9 year old, I would be cautious and move very slowly. It's definately not an elementary program. Looking forward to hearing what others think! One more thing.....LP is a grammar method and not so much reading. I think before going into the heavy translations, one probably must get used to just READING Latin. It has to go beyond the parsing of words into their correct English order/part of speech into just naturally reading and understanding. LP won't get you there. It is necessary to go through the grammar first, but I think another reading type program is needed to go further. ....Would love to hear others comment on this.

Good job changing the subject!

Do we want to limit our children to the limitations we have put on ourself? For example, because I don't know enough about history and science to be able to contribute to relavent issues, do I want my children to be so limited? Because I don't know science in a meaningful way, do I want that for my children? If all I use math for is baking and shopping, does that mean my children only need to go through arithmetic? I personally feel very cheated with regards to my own education, yet I'm only a stay at home mom who does the cooking and the laundry. My ps education more than adequately prepared me for that! If we know exactly what are children are going to do with their lives, exactly what they want as hobbies, exactly what reading level/vocabulary they will need to read what they want/need, exactly how deeply they will investigate spirituality (many diciplines are needed here including history, science, high level reading/vocabulary), then we could limit their education without future regrets. There are homeschooled children who are very angry with their parents for not educating them and limiting their options. My children do like certain subjects and gravitate towards those. However, even with these, and in all the other subjects, when it comes down to hard work, they don't want to do it. I make them because I believe if they do not do the work, they will regret it later. How many people have you met who wished they had not been so well educated?

Well, we love Pimsleur around here. It is audio only, but one really gets the feel for how the language is spoken. Also, we do it only in the car, so it makes good use of time. We'll go on to more formal Spanish later, but since we do Latin, we understand all of the grammar. With Pimsleur, one holds a conversation with the CD, and then hears the correct response/pronunciation.

R&S is formatted so that you can assign only odds or evens and not leave out any concept. It says so in the Teacher's Manual.

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Jackie, Why did CD not work? What program had you been using? Did you feel your ds was adequately prepared? What does it take to be prepared for CD pre-algebra? Thanks for posting. I'm also interested in this.

Yes. ANKI is just a scheduling system. Use it instead of a memory box for dynamic memory scheduling.

Uh, you really should listen to this. I know it's not the cute, memory box, page protector stuff, but it will last where the memory box will get stuffed with too much info than is possible for a mortal to deal with. I'm talking about vocab, latin, spanish, poems, scriptures, dates, science info... ANKI is a scheduling system, based on the student's ability to recall. New info reviewed more often of course, but scheduled based on how easy the information was to recall. For instance, if you enter a new word, and it is very easy to recall, it might be scheduled for review in 5 days. Next time, if very easy, maybe scheduled in 2 weeks. Next time, 2 months. Next time, 5 months...and on and on. You can get items scheduled for review over 1 year from now. This is necessary because it becomes physicallly impossible to do all the reviewing necessary unless more familiar items are moved out. Thanks so much to the person on this board who got us started on ANKI. It is one of the best finds in the last 5 years or so.

Fabulous! Only 19!!! Give me hope over my worries! What kind did you have? I sure have enough....

I have listened to many Pudewa talks, and I have been shocked about how OPEN he is with his political and religious beliefs! In fact, as he was speaking I was astounded by the fact that he did not fear for his livelihood as he addressed the politics and cultural climate of the day. Mr. Pudewa is a man of character, if you believe character means standing up for what one believes is right, although such actions may cost dearly.

Main Entry: 2institute Function: noun Date: 1546 : something that is instituted: as a (1) : an elementary principle recognized as authoritative (2) plural : a collection of such principles and precepts; especially : a legal compendium b : an organization for the promotion of a cause : association <a research institute> <an institute for the blind> c : an educational institution and especially one devoted to technical fields d : a usually brief intensive course of instruction on selected topics relating to a particular field <an urban studies institute> Please Bill, would you give examples as to institutes you feel are valid? Must they be non-profit or charitable? What exactly are the requirements necessary to be considered a valid institute? Thank you.