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  1. I think what might also be useful is running her through the review sections of the latter part of the intro of algebra book (after ch. 16) so that she can get accustomed to AOPS style and to see if she is ready for something like AOPS. Going from MUS to AOPs is a pretty drastic change in style and approach for a student who may not be exposed to discovery approach or putting in the level of effort and time that AOPS requires. MUS is not generally a curricula that is commonly used with highly math adept students. Can you borrow a copy of the textbook from your library or someone? I find the reaction to AOPs is pretty much you love it or hate it.
  2. @MamaSprout Could you tell me when during your math progression did you slot those classes in, and how long did a course on average take?
  3. Thanks @MamaSprout we will likely have to follow suit. I appreciate the info!
  4. Tagging along this discussion with this question: is EMF strictly online with no physical textbook? My son does not learn as well without a physical textbook. I keep seeing discussions about EMF...
  5. I do it for community and for enrichment. It is never our meat & potatoes of homeschooling. For us, it is about relationships and doing life together. It all depends on what your family is looking for and needs. In fact, I even serve on the board of our co-op. It's a great deal of work, but I see it as meaningful work that blesses the families in our community. It is a Christian co-op of about 120 families. We run well over 100 events annually and have usually about 50-60 different classes that serve PK-12. There's something for everyone and flexibility in allowing to choose what you would like to do. Noone has to be there all day. Some just come for a couple of classes. Others join for everything but class day. We are that odd duck co-op and have a lot of teens. 3/5 of our families have teenagers.
  6. This is not a hugely commonly used resource, but you might want to look at Outling by Remedia Publications. It focuses just on the skill of outlining and writing from an outline. Another pretty good resource is the Paragraphs series (4 books) by EPS. I am specfically making recommendations that I think are doable in an afterschooling situation. Both of these are aimed at working with struggling middle school students, but I think they are pretty good for using with younger students for the purposes of explicit instruction to improve writing in reasonable chunks without being overwhelming. I would suggest ordering from Rainbow Resource Center for the best pricing.
  7. I think I would suggest Jacob's Mathematics: A Human Endeavor. It covers math topics outside of the traditional scope and sequence. It perfectly fine and challenging for someone at that level. I am just finishing this up with my son right now to go wider in math without rushing on toward calculus. Or possibly Hard Math for Middle School by Glen Ellison which is for gifted kids. Instead of C&P and Number Theory, I might suggest the AOPS Problem Solving series. Look at Kilgallon for Middle School. Google Kilgallon and Well Trained Minds forums to read about this. You can totally do one worktext in 2 months.
  8. I'm a little confused by what you are actually considering. Is it Latin Alive? Your 2nd paragraph says you don't want to jump into Latin Alive. Then it says Latin Alive is what you are considering. FWIW, my son went from LFC B (2nd edition) - vastly more interesting and engaging than 1st edition btw - into Latin Alive - 3rd edition (no idea what is different) and is enjoying it. He's a 5th grader but really loves Latin. The workload ramped up considerably though as it should because it counts as a high school credit.
  9. I didn't see the history part. The History Bee is much easier to pull off doing as you can qualify as an individual. You just have to do the option of the multiple choice qualifying test versus a school competition bee if the rules didn't change from the last time I looked at them. The website did get signicantly revamped, but it might be worth digging through as their rules are far more accomodating to individuals than the Geo Bee.
  10. I only just noticed that this series was going on. Week 4 is starting on Wednesday and 5 is next week. 5 weeks total. Week 1 has 10 videos. They are up for free for 36 hrs. "Smart but Struggling Students" Free Online Master Lecture Series Begins Today here is the promo video and registration link
  11. If you are talking about the Nat Geo Bee, homeschoolers are only allowed to participate if a homeschool association (this is a very loose definition, pretty much any sort of homeschool group would work). The tricky part is that a minimum of 8 privately homeschooled students must be compete. They must reside in the county or surrounding counties in which the assocation exists. Students can be 4th to 8th grade and may not turn 15 before 9/1. The organizer may not be a parent of the participating students Locally, it has been near impossible for me the past several years to get enough participation for us to get the 8 minimum students. Hope this helps!
  12. Maybe the Hard Math series by Glen Ellison is worth looking at as well. And I would just buy the MOEMS books. Though if you mastered AOPS PA, the MOEMs problems aren't very challenging. However, what is nice about the MOEMS books is that full solutions are included.
  13. Coming back to add that my son is not totally on his own with this either. We use the Order Out of Chaos planner which is fabulous in design for scaffolding organization in a visual way. We use this to organize his study for classes and work together to plan which days he sets aside for various tasks. We discuss for this subject how many days and how long should his planned study time be for this. This helps to spread out heavier and lighter studying throughout the day. This is the first year that we have now moved to taking notes from a textbook in a spiral notebook. Last year, I had scaffolded this skill with a prewritten outline that he needed to fill in specific information from his textbook.
  14. I found that actually having my son take a study skills class over the summer has helped a great deal. It worked a lot better for him to be working on it amd discussinh challenges with other students rather than strictly me telling him this is how you should approach x,y,z. I would suggest that you consider WTMA's study skills course which they do offer during the fall, spring and summer. I had looked at that one which is aimed at 5th grade and up I believe. It's not viewable right now on the website since they aren't enrolling anymore for the fall. I opted for the Schole Academy one instead which probably wouldn't work for you as it is taught from a Christian perspective. Even then, every fall there is a big step up in what he needs to do in order to be successful at whatever it is that he really wanted to do. This is why Athena and OG3 classes were a much better fit and continue to be so when he was younger. I actually found that the physics course at Athena's worked much better for us beecause there wasn't grading I am careful to manage every year which classes he did with that high of a level of output. I have pretty clear convos with him that IF he chose to this particular class what the class expectations are before we signed up so that he could decide if that was something he would commit to. I would not sign him up for a class without that being that agreed upon expectation because when there are going to be times when he won't want to do it (especially in September) and I have to remind him about the importance of follow through and putting in your best effort. Those are specific to how our family works since that we emphasize especially in outside classes that the student to teacher retationship as two ways in terms of effort and commitment. I think ultimately it all comes down to what her long term goals are because that's how we get buy in is working backwards from where he wants to be and laying out the steps, skills, and commitment required to get there. Good luck. It's a challenge for all kids, gifted or not.
  15. It's a secular series. Neutral in approach so that I've seen Christian curricula incorporate her books as spines. I'm not doing the second set on purpose. There's a class he wanted to take at with Sir Galahad at Online G3 and it uses the 11 volume set. Not what I originally planned to do, but I try to let my son have a say in what he studies as much as possible. So, US History it is... If I had to buy it all over again, I probably would stick to just the concise one. It is visually more appealing and less cluttered.
  16. You might want to look at K12's Concise 4 volume version of Story of Us by Joy Hakim. This works well for this age. My son used it. We are looping back with the 11 volume set now.
  17. Slightly off-topic, but I am reading Chasing Francis by Ian Morgan Cron. That might be an interesting read as you go along this journey. Book summary from Amazon: What happens when the pastor of a mega church loses his faith? Pastor Chase Falson has lost his faith in God, the Bible, evangelical Christianity, and his super-sized megachurch. When he falls apart, the church elders tell him to go away: as far away as possible. Join Chase on his life-changing journey to Italy where, with a curious group of Franciscan friars, he struggles to resolve his crisis of faith by retracing the footsteps of Francis of Assisi, a saint whose simple way of loving Jesus changed the history of the world. Read this riveting story and then begin your own life-changing journey through the pilgrim’s guide included in this powerful novel. Hidden in the past lies the future of the church When his elders tell him to take some time away from his church, broken pastor Chase Falson crosses the Atlantic to Italy to visit his uncle, a Franciscan priest. There he is introduced to the revolutionary teachings of Saint Francis of Assisi and finds an old, but new way of following Jesus that heals and inspires. Chase Falson’s spiritual discontent mirrors the feelings of a growing number of Christians who walk out of church asking, Is this all there is? They are weary of celebrity pastors, empty calorie teaching, and worship services wherethe emphasis is more on Lights, Camera, Action than on Father, Son, and Holy Spirit while the deepest questions of life remain unaddressed in a meaningful way. Bestselling author Ian Morgan Cron masterfully weaves lessons from the life of Saint Francis into the story of Chase Falson to explore the life of a saint who 800 years ago breathed new life into disillusioned Christians and a Church on the brink of collapse. Chasing Francis is a hopeful and moving story with profound implications for those who yearn for a more vital relationship with God and the world.
  18. Perhaps I would focus less on denomination and more on observing which churches in your area are actively engaged in serving the community's most needy. Perhaps it is going to be mainline Protestant, evangelical, or Anglican...I just would look to see what they are doing in tangible, meaningful ways to be the hands and feet of Christ to the most needy. The church I am a part of is evangelical but not the Bible thumping media caricature of it. We do an annual serve day for a less advantaged community near us and ask how we can serve. Sometimes it was going in and doing a complete paint, landscaping and refresh of the local continution high school or it was cleaning, weeding, painting and landscaping the City's main community park. We have established safe homes for women escaping sexual trafficking to heal, gain skills and eventually to find jobs and their own homes. We work to support our city (major metro) in providing safe families for temporary emergencies to try to keep children out of our stressed and overburdened foster care system and work every year to help foster kids aging out to furnish their first apartments. We do many more things than this, but I would encourage you to look because I know there are churches who are also doing similar work and would love to have like-minded people to come alongside and become part of their communities.
  19. Another option is Arbor Algebra (3 books) for PA through Algebra if you like the discovery approach but don't want the firehouse that AOPS can be. My son thrives on AOPS and self-taught himself through PA. We took a pause to do Jacobs MHE and will likely do Jacobs prior to AOPS algebra as I have been won over by 8's idea of two passes through algebra experience. My son did Arbor's Jousting Armadillos and it was useful for the purpose I was using it for which was to transition away from BA and SM to reading a textbook and writing out solutions in a near and organized manner. It was easy compared to AOPS, but it focused on this key skill for us. We are doing MHE as part of this plan to not rush ahead, but we are taking time to explore math not normally coverd in the traditional sequence.
  20. If you really like Singapore, you might want to consider Singapore's Dimensions math series. DM 6-8 would take you through from PA to Algebra in 3 years. AOPS isn't something I would suggest unless your daughter really likes math and would be okay with very wordy text with no pictures. Keep in mind it is written to target and challenge the top math students. It is also discovery approach which means you are supposed to make connections rather than be explicitly taught the material. It's thick book. More than 600 full size pages. Why don't you take a look at the samples in their online book version here: And Dimensions math does come with HIGs and can be found here to look at samples.
  21. We went by age because my son is involved in lots of extra curriculars. I also want to gift him the gift of an unhurried childhood. I have no plans for early graduation as we can go deep and wide given the resources readily available these days.
  22. It's our favorite for elementary, but I would not use it at too young of an age. I taught the series starting from Ancient World at my co-op. 2-4, 3--5, 4-6 were the grades as I progressed through the years. The lessons are not exactly set up for a co-op because in order to finish the book in a year, you have to cover 2-3 lessons per week. I would introduce the lesson and do the labs. The students would go home and read over the lessons and do the discussion questions from the book. I designed my courses on google classroom so I usually linked concepts to videos online that went deeper or explained the target concept in an accessible way so that students who didn't completely grasp a concept were able to understand in a different medium. The lessons are laid on for home use by reading up to the lab which would explore the concept of the lesson without giving away the results which would answer the question being explored. Then the rest of the reading would more fully explain why you got the results you did from the lab. I use multiple science curricula fully, but this is my favorite by far. The concepts are definitely not watered down at all.
  23. I'm waiting for her kids to finish with schooling as she has indicated she wants to teach more live classes on her own in the future.
  24. The instructor for Blue Tent's live class is local to me in SD. She has a really good reputation here and has also taught at the local AOPS Academy.
  25. This is the hack I came up with....I got a set of 100 cheap plastic poker chips and wrote 1, 10, 100, etc, with a Sharpie in groups of 20. I looked around a bit to see if I could pick them up cheap at a thrift shop. Since I was pressed for time since we are in the middle addition and subtraction within a thousand, I just ordered them off amazon for less than $5. Pretty sure the poker chips will last a lot longer than foam circles. Anyways, I drew vertical lines on a the small whiteboard for columns and made a 10 grid in each column. I colored the 10th sqaure solid as a reminder that the "place" couldn't hold 10. I had the board and chips out, and we would do problems with them. Every time he got to the point at which he had 10, he exchanged out the whole column for a 10 chip. The same with a full 10 column, you would change out for a 100 chip.
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