There has been so much response to this thread and much of it relates better to the OP than mine will, but I'm going to go ahead and throw in ds's experience. We were shocked when we looked at his college catalog and saw how few hours were required in his major for a BA. The school allows double-dipping, and a majority of students seem to have at least a double major. There are majors this isn't true of (of course), but it is for many. Ds started with a writing major and has added a multi-media production degree. They have very little overlap, but he will be able to complete them both in 4 years without any heavy course loads. He did have 18 hours of credit from transfer, AP, and CLEP. When i was in college, I was a science major and had no free courses outside of electives in my major. I only took 9 credits in when I started, but double majoring would have required at least an extra year. My take on all of this is that the relative ease or difficulty of a double major varies by both college and major. For some, it is a breeze. For others it is a real challenge. I disagree about not doing it because students should go deep not wide. Some students may be ready for depth and be very singularly focused. However, others are still in exploration mode. All of ds's aspirations will benefit most from breadth of study, not depth. I can see where this too varies by student and future plans, but I don't think depth is the only acceptable answer. Far from it.

Ds is in a similar situation. He hasn't found his tribe either. He elected to just live in the dorms again next year and have roommates assigned to him. I'm hoping he will find friends instead of just acquaintances among his roommates next year. Ds is slow to make friends and has a lot of acquaintances and people who are situational friends in classes and in the dorm, but no one he has really connected with. It doesn't surprise me that this has taken longer, but I hope the situation improves next year. He now comes home most weekends on Saturday and doesn't go back until late Sunday or even early Monday (his first class isn't until 10:00). Academically, the year has gone ok. It has been a bit of a roller coaster. Ds has multiple LDs and chose not to use the accommodations setup for him through disability services. His grades in almost every class look the same - A's on everything that was turned in mixed with some 0's for work not turned in. This is a perfectionism/anxiety thing that has been hard to break through. He is at a small LAC and teachers have been great about working with him and giving him extra time as needed. I'm biting my nails waiting for second semester grades, but hopefully they will be good enough to maintain his scholarship (first semester was). Ds has loved most of his classes and professors. Overall it has been a good learning/growing experience. We expected challenges for him and were prepared to work through them. Some things have gone better than expected, others not as well, but we are pleased with his growth and success so far in spite of the difficulties.

I'm so sorry. Praying for safety tonight. (from a storm lover)

They required at least 24 credits of transfer credit that are not DE. I don't think it is all that common. I always hear how you can lose first time freshman status by just taking one class after graduation, but apparently it isn't that easy if you WANT to lose it. :lol:

Free makes a big difference. However, if you dd is a poor tester, but an excellent student, she might actually come up with more scholarship money as a transfer. Dd had very meh ACT scores, but is Dean's list at the CC and in their honor's society. She qualifies for MUCH better scholarships as a transfer student than as a first time freshman. Unfortunately, even if we backdated her graduation, neither college she wants to attend will take her as a transfer. We asked.

This is what I was thinking. To me, it isn't salsa with no onions or cilantro. They are too integral to the flavor. However, a nice mango salsa could be made without either.

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My living room is that color. I love it.

Are you implying I didn't? 27 years later, I still think mine is darn near perfect, and truly the perfect partner for me.

And don't forget tying shoes! Ds was in OT for sensory issues from about age 3, so it was discovered quite early. However, by the time K started, I would have known something was wrong. I did still hear the "he's just a boy" stuff and I'm really glad I had an OT behind me saying it was more than that, or I probably wouldn't have done anything until 7 or 8.

This was going to be my suggestion too. Typically you will have about 12 hours of prerequisites to jump into a masters. It may take more if you are going into something you haven't even had an intro course in, but it can usually be done in just a couple of semesters. That is assuming it isn't a math or science based field where there is a long string of building classes each prerequisite to the next.

I have a friend who sells Arbonne too. They use pea protein in their protein powder. I keep pea protein powder on hand for when my vegetarian dd starts feeling the need to be vegan (it come in waves), but I prefer the flavor of whey protein. I am not willing to pay Arbonne's prices and I am just fine with of the shelf brands.

You are surprised by that? I think that would be expected. Treat them all as guilty until you have evidence otherwise. Plagiarism is handled quite harshly in education today. As long as she gives the innocent girls the grades they deserve in the end, I think the teacher has done fine. Could she have made it less stressful for the innocent - yep. But I bet they both learned they NEVER want to be caught plagiarizing in the future. I know they didn't this time, but the temptation is always there. Being terrified of the potential results isn't a bad thing. :)

What state are you in? Missouri 2) Do dual enrollment students pay tuition in your area? Yes, although the local CC just added a program where homeschooled DE students get reduced tuition for online classes. Public schools vary some offer free DE, some offer DE classes with reduced tuition and some pay full price. It is the ps district not the state giving these tuition breaks. 3) Can dual enrollment students count their courses towards their HS diploma? Yes, this is very popular in our local high schools with most kids heading to college graduating with around 30 credits. 4) How many credits can a dual enrollment student take? There is no limit. However, we can only get reduced tuition for 2 classes per semester. They also won't let a student enroll in more than 2 classes the first semester, to make sure they are ready before they dive into more. 5) Are there limits on the DE classes a student can take? I don't think they can take remedial classes. Am I right that other areas do it differently? Yes. This is determined by the several factors, state funding, county or regional funding and public school district agreements with the colleges. There is nothing universal about it. Other people in other parts of my state won't even have the same answers as me.

The CC & University here won't let student take remedial courses, so Intermediate Algebra wasn't an option. However, it will essentially be covering Algebra 2 in one semester. It is designed for students who have had Algebra 2 and didn't get it, rather than a first time learner. I would NOT put an 8th grader into a College Composition class. You can expect this class to be full of discussions of violence, sex, and other contemporary issues. These are the things that are compelling to college students, therefor things they should be writing about. I don't think of myself as overprotective, but I would not go there. My 16 yo did fine with college composition, but I really wouldn't have wanted her taking on the issues they dealt with any younger. Programming is a good choice :)

I read aloud, we discussed. For us this was middle school and I didn't give a grade, so I didn't need anything for grading criteria. I have a child with dysgraphia and we didn't do tons of essays or writing outside of English. He's a writing major in college. It didn't hurt him. He did read all the rest of the Core 100 books. I think we might have done Jump In for writing that year. My younger followed the core 3+4 reading schedule (C+D now maybe). We read her read aloud and Hakim together. It was good and the kids really understood and made connections. We did another pass though US History in high school. We used college level texts. I got a lot out of it, but I think the kids got more out of Hakim, because they understood it better.

No. I grew up in a place where our land sometimes flooded in the spring. We never played in the water. We rafted on it occasionally, but that water is nasty! Even in a raft we had issues with water moccasins trying (aggressively) to get in the boat with us. We were pretty rural, but the river flowed past towns with sewer systems that would get flooded and through yards with flooded septic systems. There is no such thing as flood water that is safe to play in. Stay mean.

No one can say if it is ok for grandparents to swear in front of grandkids. In some families, the answer is yes, all parties swear and it isn't considered an issue. In other families it would be considered highly offensive. Can you ask? Yes. Will that change anything? Probably not. It will be up to you to decide how you want to handle that. Are you ok with havign a conversation (many conversations) with your kids regarding your families decisions about language use? Is it enough of a big deal that you want to limit your kids time with grandparents? Your response is up to you, but a 70+yo man is not going to change his speech patterns.

I've heard this a few times, but it wasn't our experience. Neither kid got junk mail that could be attributed to the College Board. Neither took the SAT either though (ACT country) so maybe that is the trigger. They did have PSAT, CLEP, and AP scores.

We really enjoyed History of US. I used it when the kids were in 6th & 8th grade and we went through the whole thing in one year following the Core 100 schedule. I read about one page of the notes in the SL guide and never looked at them again. The books are very readable and it was my kids favorite year of history - ever. It is a bit light for high school, but on the SL boards, you'll find plenty of people whose kids CLEP US history 1 & 2 after using nothing but Core 100.

I've seen this too.

There definitely are community colleges that allow high school students not in their area to take classes online. So, if he does ok with online classes and you can't get this worked out, he could do DE on-line through an out of state CC.

I got St. Louis, MO and that is where I grew up.

Nursing and Physical Therapy have fairly different requirements. PT will require at least one, probably two semesters of Physics. Nursing requires none. Both will be helped by solid Biology, A&P, Psychology, and math (particularly statistics for nursing) skills. Nursing is much more hands on and lighter in the pure science courses. PT is a PhD program. The undergrad will be heavy in pure sciences and the hands on won't hit until grad school. Psychology will be required for both but will be an easy course (compared to her others). You can have her do the CLEP if she wants and if the college she chooses accepts it, it will get her out of one semester. Most nursing programs require 2 semesters of Psychology, she would still need the second semester. I'm not sure what you think would hold her back with her age. Nursing school does not require students to be 18. Dd is going o nursing school next year as a young 17 yo. She will graduate at 20. We've checked with all the programs she considered to make sure her age wasn't an issue and have been assured it is not. Oops, sorry, thought you said PT instead of OT. You can ignore everything I said about PT. I've never looked at the requirements for OT, although it is still a grad program with a more pure science undergrad degree.

:scared: :banghead: :svengo: So sorry that your daughter got a lousy group member. I hope it all gets straightened out and she and the other group members are not punished for what they didn't do and didn't think to guard against (who checks everybody else's sources?). I know how frustrating group work can be and this is definitely worst case scenario. However, I still don't throw it all out as bad. Ds has had some kind of group project or presentation in most of his classes each semester this year and so far all the experiences have been good.