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  1. I haven't read the other replies yet but yes, I think our tolerance for things have gone down. These days we don't have to be uncomfortable hardly ever. Our homes and are cars are climate controlled. Many of us rarely experience true hunger as food is so readily available. If we have a question, google can answer it immediately. It seems like many of our needs can be met immediately. 

    If that's all you know, being uncomfortable is going to feel like a big deal. And if things get really bad, it may be beyond our ability to cope.

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  2. 15 minutes ago, Sneezyone said:


    Each and every additional infection post-social distancing requests, pleas, orders is proof of someone’s selfishness.

    So you are expecting the social distancing to eliminate COVID completely, assuming we do it long enough?  Do you have a source for this? Are there doctors and scientists saying this as well? 

  3. 12 minutes ago, Sneezyone said:

    A homeschooling mama I know of is PG with her seventh child, in Maine of all places, is a presumptive positive and having trouble breathing and speaking. What is it going to take to put others before self?

    I am really sorry to hear this. That is awful. From what I understand all of this social distancing and staying at home is meant to "flatten the curve" so as not to overwhelm the hospitals. But this will continue to spread and a lot of people are going to get sick. It's an unfortunate fact. Using one person's illness as proof of other's selfishness isn't really fair. 

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  4. 10 minutes ago, Ktgrok said:

    Really? Should people also not report, say a drunk driver? Or a domestic abuse situation happening in their view? Or a robbery they witness? People getting together in groups are going to KILL people. I'd say that is even worse than if they were just breaking into a car to steal a purse! But no one would say it was scary that people are encouraged to report a robbery if they see one. 

    Um, if we want to survive, it is. Killing your neighbor is NOTHING like reporting your neighbor to save his life or the lives of others. It is much more like calling the police to report a drunk driver or child abuse or domestic abuse. Of course, plenty of people think we shouldn't get involved in that stuff either, but I'd hope not here. If I see a group of young adults having a volleyball game, say 20 of them, when we are supposed to be on stay at home orders and people are dying because of that kind of selfishness? Yeah, I'm going to report it. 

    Seriously. That lack of attention to how this is a patriotic duty to stay home is weird to me. Should have been framed that way from the start. 

    Getting together in groups MIGHT result in spreading COVID which MIGHT result in someone's death. But it's not a given. This not even remotely comparable to drunk driving or domestic abuse.

    There's a difference between telling people they have a patriotic duty to stay home and charging people with a misdemeanor for gathering at a park.

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  5. 13 minutes ago, Sneezyone said:

    So, yeah, can you imagine your grandparents reporting misuse of ration coupons in wartime? We’re there penalties and social shame associated with misusing scarce resources? YES. I blame, AGAIN, the lack of civics education in this country. Public health emergencies are akin to war and government is afforded similar powers during those times. This may come as a shock to people but these powers have always been available. The best way to not get named, shamed, and stunned out of town is to, as Spike Lee said, do the right thing.

    Do you assume that everything the government asks you to do is morally right?

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  6. 56 minutes ago, gardenmom5 said:

    kinda makes you think of the earliest days of communist countries. 

    Years ago I read Left to Tell by Immaculée Ilibagiza. It's her story of the Rwandaan genocide. One of the most shocking thing to me was how quickly neighbors turned against neighbors and slaughtered them!!  I know this is not that. But the government encouraging citizens to turn on each other is not the direction we need to be heading. Even a little bit.

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  7. I can't decide if this is funny or incredibly disturbing that people think it's funny. In Summit County, UT they are issuing a shelter-in-place order that is a class B misdemeanor if ignored. WTH?

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  8. 2 minutes ago, gardenmom5 said:

    In Italy - people do have to have papers saying they're allowed to be out.  It came up on one woman's youtube video of the things she wished she knew to prepare before they were locked down. - to have extra printer cartridges and paper for printing those papers.

    Most people I interact with on social media are posting about their social isolation and coping fairly well. I understand that some people don't think this is a big deal. But when you have to get permission from your government to leave the house.... it's mind blowing. And really, it ought to bother people that the government is asking people to turn each other in.

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  9. 10 minutes ago, Jean in Newcastle said:

    Gardenmom, did you see last night on the news that your city now has a place on the city app to report large gatherings of people?  Their purpose for this is to keep people from calling 911 for things like that. 

    Personally, I think encouraging people to turn each other in for being in groups is every bit as scary as this pandemic.

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  10. 1 hour ago, maize said:

     

    I would not count on that.

    I was symtomatic enough to be tested this week (my state has ramped up testing) and caught my infection from someone who had been traveling.

    Test was negative.

    Only five percent of tests are coming back positive here, which means that symptoms just are not differentiable from other respiratory viruses--even by the medical professionals who have to recommend for testing.

    I think we all have to assume we have not had this unless we get a positive test (or until that needed antibody test becomes available).

    My otherwise healthy brother was hospitalized for 3 days with pneumonia. His first COVID test from 10 days ago is not back. I think they either lost it or lied about testing him. The hospital did another one 3 days ago but we have not heard results. 

    The strangest thing to me is that they are saying it is not COVID based on his xrays. Two different doctors in 2 different hospitals who looked at them said COVID pneumonia presents differently than regular pneumonia. I haven't seen that anywhere online though. 

    I am seriously questioning the numbers that being published about our state though. 

  11. 13 minutes ago, Margaret in CO said:

    Our ps handed out packets, online stuff, and Chromebooks. And the parents invested in their children's education are helping them. And the parents who park their kids in front of the tube are still doing that. And the gap will continue to widen. 

    I do sympathize with the working moms who are now working from home who are expected to simultaneously teach their kids with the extra time they don't really have. It would be a difficult transition especially when it's not something you wanted to ever do.

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  12. I have offered some unsolicited advice. A friend of mine was lamenting over the packets sent home for her kindergartner and the tears that ensued. I told her school at home shouldn't suck and to ditch the packets and just read and play. I would not neccesarily suggest the same thing for upper elementary kids and beyond, but that would definitely be my plan for kindergarteners who hate packets. 

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  13. I don't know why you assume that someone who who has concerns about school lunch programs doesn't also have issues with corporate welfare.

    I think if we're gonna feed the poor kids at school (which seems to be a large percentage in a lot of schools) let's just feed all the kids. Let's make it part of the regular school system budget that everyone is served a free hot lunch at school unless you prefer your homemade lunch. And make it a good lunch, dang it. I think I would prefer that over these programs where kids who don't actually "need" the snacks and meals are practically begged to participate so that their schools continue to get special funding.

    It concerns me that when parents can't or won't do something for their kids, the solution is for the government to take over the responsibility and do it for them. We should be doing something to lift the whole family and help the parents to become more self-sufficient. I will admit that I don't know what that is or how that would look though on a community wide scale. But I worry about encouraging a sense of dependence upon the government. 

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  14. I feel the same way you do. And it's all made worse when I feel like the government does a poor and inefficient job at solving it. When DH was teaching in an inner-city school they wanted him to encourage all kids to take food items during snack time, even if they didn't eat them, so that the school could get their funding. What kind of message does that send to kids when we tell them to take it and just throw it away? 

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