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  1. This article is worth a read.
  2. To answer the original question, it depends on why they are anti-vaccine. Parents whose children have been injured or killed by vaccines will not change their minds. And those who have issues with vaccines cultured on aborted fetal cells will not change their minds if that is how the COVID vaccine is manufactured. The fact that there is a deadly virus circulating the globe is not proof that "vaccines work." Some vaccines are more effective than others. Some don't work very well at all. So whether or not people will be inclined to get the COVID vaccine comes out will depend on a lot of factors specific to the vaccine itself. Look at how many pro-vaxxers opt out of the flu vaccine. This is not a black and white issue. And anyone who thinks it is, does not understand the controversy surrounding vaccines.
  3. I recently watched a video with Peter Hotek where he explained that previous attempts to create a coronavirus vaccine caused immune enhancement problems, where the vaccinated individual became even sicker when exposed to the virus they had been vaccinated against. It's a known problem with the dengue fever vaccine, as well as RSV. I will be curious to see if they can resolve that issue. I would be especially wary of a vaccine that was fast-tracked for approval because of it. Honestly, I think our best bet is to all slowly be exposed to the virus so we can develop natural immunity and hopefully doctors will be able to find effective treatments to treat those who are severely affected by virus.
  4. Effie Ermel Alford These are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.
  5. I have read reports that initial predictions about the severity may have been too high. I think it's really important to be looking at the data and making adjustments as we learn. Because if this isn't as deadly as initially feared, it's definitely not worth screwing over the world's economy. I have mixed feelings about isolating the older at-risk individuals. I have seen so many "heart-warming" videos about visiting the elderly through glass windows, etc. And I get it. I know why people are doing that. I haven't seen my dad in several weeks. He is very high risk for just about everything, not just COVID. He also has talked for years about being ready to die. On the one hand, I do NOT want to be the one responsible for sharing an illness with him that kills him. But if he dies tomorrow of a heart attack I am going to feel like sh*t for not having taken my kids to see him recently. I feel like it's a lose/lose situation. ETA: it doesn't help that my dad has dementia. His health has declined pretty dramatically over the last 8 months, from living alone to not being able to even be left alone. It's not like we have years left with my dad anyway. I feel really conflicted about keeping my kids away from him while, right now, he is still mostly lucid.
  6. This is true. I recently joined a couple local FB pages for our specific breeds. Just pages for people to ask questions or brag about their dogs. And every so often someone posts about found dogs or dogs that need to be rehomed for various reasons. The members are passionate about the breed and I think they get rehomed easily.
  7. I know that it's trendy to adopt dogs from shelters. But it does seem like finding a good family breed at the shelter is hard. At ours, most of them are pits or pit mixes. I have a bunch of kids, and I do worry about bringing a dog into our home with an unknown history. That said, we recently got a golden retriever mix puppy from someone who was living in an apartment who could no longer care for him. He was a very well loved dog who was already potty trained and knew some commands. We had been watching craigslist for a while before he came up. We also got an aussie puppy from a breeder about 6 months ago. The potty training months were rough but she is a fantastic dog. She's smart and eager to learn and I love her. I don't think there is a right or wrong way to get a dog. Just take your time because the right dog for your home might not come up right away. Definitely do not impulse purchase!
  8. We've just tried to get well-stocked on things we normally use. Apparently people are buying up baby chicks from feed stores at record speeds. We have a broody hen that is sitting on eggs so we decided to let her be a mom and put some babies under her. It took a while to track down any chicks because they sell out fast. One store got a bunch in today but they were already half gone by mid-morning. I find this really surprising.
  9. @Eliana Of course there are people today whose lives are hard who are as tough as nails. I am talking in generalities though about what your average person had to suffer through then compared to today.
  10. I dunno. Even just thinking about indoor plumbing... I don't know if I'd have the tolerance to hike out to the outhouse in the middle of the night to pee. I mean, I love camping and tolerate for a couple nights, but would hate if that was my life 24/7. My grandfather used to tell the story about when he was a kid, running home from school knowing there were only a few sliced of bread at home, and sitting down to cry because he knew he couldn't keep up with his siblings who would beat him home to eat it. I am so glad my kids will never know that kind of hunger. I know some do. But it's just not the same today. I have a don't-know-how-many-greats- grandmother who had an infected toe that wouldn't heal. The dr wanted $10 to cut it off. She thought that was ridiculous so she took an axe to her toe herself. I know I don't have the kind of grit and determination to survive what my ancestors went through. I am trying to grow a garden and about to give up because I can't keep the grass from overtaking my garden bed. I'd probably try harder if my life literally depended on it.
  11. To the same degree that most people, if not all, experienced in previous generations?
  12. I think we stress about different things. But our tolerance for being uncomfortable has gone down because the solution is so readily available.
  13. I haven't read the other replies yet but yes, I think our tolerance for things have gone down. These days we don't have to be uncomfortable hardly ever. Our homes and are cars are climate controlled. Many of us rarely experience true hunger as food is so readily available. If we have a question, google can answer it immediately. It seems like many of our needs can be met immediately. If that's all you know, being uncomfortable is going to feel like a big deal. And if things get really bad, it may be beyond our ability to cope.
  14. So you are expecting the social distancing to eliminate COVID completely, assuming we do it long enough? Do you have a source for this? Are there doctors and scientists saying this as well?
  15. Is there proof that it was deliberate? Honest question.
  16. I am really sorry to hear this. That is awful. From what I understand all of this social distancing and staying at home is meant to "flatten the curve" so as not to overwhelm the hospitals. But this will continue to spread and a lot of people are going to get sick. It's an unfortunate fact. Using one person's illness as proof of other's selfishness isn't really fair.
  17. "Anyone who violates the order can be charged with a Class B misdemeanor. In Utah, that is punishable by up to six months in jail and a fine of up to $1,000."
  18. I disagree then on what the government has the right to do to its people.
  19. Getting together in groups MIGHT result in spreading COVID which MIGHT result in someone's death. But it's not a given. This not even remotely comparable to drunk driving or domestic abuse. There's a difference between telling people they have a patriotic duty to stay home and charging people with a misdemeanor for gathering at a park.
  20. Do you assume that everything the government asks you to do is morally right?
  21. Years ago I read Left to Tell by Immaculée Ilibagiza. It's her story of the Rwandaan genocide. One of the most shocking thing to me was how quickly neighbors turned against neighbors and slaughtered them!! I know this is not that. But the government encouraging citizens to turn on each other is not the direction we need to be heading. Even a little bit.
  22. I can't decide if this is funny or incredibly disturbing that people think it's funny. In Summit County, UT they are issuing a shelter-in-place order that is a class B misdemeanor if ignored. WTH?
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