Actually she created an app or game or something for Susan Barton, so they had all of her information in the computer. She verified it. So, I guess I can get a few extra sets from her. I am considering if I want to go through that trouble.

She said that without the tiles it is harder for people to copy her system and sell them as a Barton system. I get it. I do, but I think she would have more success if she were a little more lenient with the tiles. Charge more if you didn't buy the entire system. I would pay a lot more for those tiles. I bought my next level directly from her, so I am obviously not trying to skirt her system. And she said because I was buying directly from her I could buy up to 10 sets of tiles for the level I bought. :huh: That seemed like a lot! Especially because I only wanted one set of the other tiles.

Yes, I spoke with her today. No go. :sneaky2:

Thank you. I may have to use that option. I have also heard you can make your own tiles with scrabble tiles.

I get that it is her company, but she makes it so expensive and hard for parents on a budget to do her program sometimes. I bought my levels through another person selling them after doing all 10 levels with her child. The lady I bought from had bought from Barton. Susan had the records. I have bought other things through Barton including all the secondary books. I can't, however, buy extra tiles through her company unless I buy directly through her company for the level I want tiles for. I get I can't buy 10 sets each, but one extra set each? I just spent $300 buying her product. Nope. Ugh. I just had to complain to someone that would understand. And no one else in my circle knows who Susan Barton is or what Barton reading is.

I don't understand the entire situation (the post was removed), but can I just offer a huge hug and lots of love for you and your family. You all must be so amazing to have adopted these beautiful, lucky children.

I have recently had to make decisions about whether or not to give my kids medication. It is such a difficult and personal decision, but I do like to hear feedback from other moms about what they have done and why. I have an 8 year old child that is very bright. Her reading and math are above grade level and she loves read alouds and retains much of what we listen too. The problem is she really struggles focusing. I have to bring her back to task every 2-3 minutes. When we read together she gets what she is reading, but she will miss words, rename words (and for to, here for there-- stuff that usually doesn't change the meaning too much) and generally just read too fast and miss some of the content. I have to slow her down and reread many sentences. Her piano teacher says that she knows she is capable of playing the music, but she has to re-direct her constantly. So, my thought is she is just a wiggly, busy and somewhat ADHD kid that needs to learn focus... She really does run from one activity to the next. And you have to sometimes look at her holding her arms down to make her listen and understand. Do I consider meds? I really haven't up until this point. I just let her go and focus her when we need to focus. Having said that it is exhausting sometimes to constantly re-focus her attention. Anyone out there have any insight?

I didn't see the summer sign up. Has it ended?

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Another question-- How do you moms remember Algebra 1 and 2 and Geometry? :laugh: I remember parts of Algebra (I liked Algebra), but nothing but loathing for Geometry. I can sit with her, but I am no help much beyond intro to Algebra. I guess I can do a refresher, but that may not happen until summer.

Thank you. This is helpful. I don't know if I am going to put her back in public school or not. She is begging not to go, but I can't sit with her for every lesson. She is cheating often, in all subjects-- particularly math. Having 4 kids and she being the oldest makes it hard to give her hours of one on one time each day. The behavior goes beyond cheating to too much digital time when she is not supposed to have electronics and watching shows I have clearly said no to. I love her to pieces, but following her around all day to make sure she makes good choices is exhausting. She seems to be having a change of heart, but it is hard for me believe it will last-- because we have done this before. But, as a mom I will believe in her and that it is going to last and help her make goals that will take her beyond the bad choices she is currently making and hopefully to a better place. We have taken all the answer keys, changed all the computer passwords and taken away all her digital accessibility and she will earn each back little by little.

Very helpful. Thank you for your kind words.

One question-- if I have her do the mastery for Pre-Algebra on Khan Academy will that give me an idea how far back we need to go?

This is it exactly. One clarification-- memorize is the wrong word. I have the flu and with all this I am not thinking super clearly. She needs to understand concepts, memorize definitions and learn formulas. These are a good start. I will think through what to do now and go from there.

Yes, we do Khan Academy and have a tutor come over or go to her house about once a week. I think there is a little bit of she doesn't understand and little bit of lazy going on. Thank you. :)

Thank you. This was extremely helpful.

I do this sometimes, but with so many kids and so much going on sometimes I forget. I guess I will have to be more diligent.

My daughter began homeschooling in 6th grade. Up until then she had been in public school. She was always a decent student, but more from raw ability than from hard work. Math has always been hard for her. She began looking up all the answers on her math work that year. I had 4 kids and would work with her, but assumed all was well. I caught her cheating one day and she swore never to do it again and I believed her. Then it happened again in Algebra. She was not memorizing how to do the problems, but just looking in the book to do what they did. When you took the book away she would get a 2/20 on her test. She did the same thing-- I will never do it again-- tears, self hate-- how can you love me... Then it happened a second time in Algebra. Ugh! I was much stricter after that. I was constantly checking on her. The last time she seemed truly repentant. Then this year, her freshman year, she just admitted to cheating on 4 tests. It was minor from what she says-- one problem on each test. I was pretty vigilant about watching her, but if she wants to cheat she will find a way to do it. She did come to me and admit everything and is so upset. She says she can't help herself. She is very compulsive. If I give her a 0 on the tests she cheated on she will fail both classes. She now has a very shaky math base-- especially in Algebra. There are a host of other problems too. When I go do activities with my other kids she stays home and watches youtube instead of getting work done. I have told her that she will have to go everywhere with us now. I have taken away her phone until further notice. I should have been more vigilant, but I trusted her. I told her trust is very slow to build back. Any thing more that I could do? Any summer Algebra programs or brush ups? Any advice? I am considering putting her back in public school... But, it would be a punishment because she REALLY doesn't want to go. But, I feel like I have lost control and I don't know what to do. She has a lot of anxiety, but I think a lot of that comes from these bad choices. I don't really have many close friends, so I really just needed a sounding board. Thanks :)

This happens to my daughter all the time. Its so disheartening. I have been reading The Dyslexic Advantage and it has been great seeing some of the advantages. I have been trying to find what works for her. So sorry... it is a hard road.

About what age is 3A for? And do you need both the guide and the practice? We are going to use it to supplement MM.

Audiobooks... In the car... On the way to the activities. We barely get science in.

I started homeschooling 4 years ago, so all my children had been to public school but the youngest. She decided that she wanted to go to school (she pushed and threw fits with me until I sent her) and stayed for 1 semester then she wanted to come back home. She decided that it wasn't all that it is cracked up to be. She is a very, very, very, busy, bright kid. She reads at a high level (she is in 2nd grade, but reads about 6th and up material). I check her comprehension as we read and she seems to understand well. We are doing Math Mammonth and she does well with her work there also-- I would say her biggest drawback as a student is that she goes too fast with her work and makes careless errors. But, I have a kid with dyslexia and she is obviously a much faster (different-I am ok with the strengths and weaknesses there) learner than her. I received her cogAT test scores today and she scored a 43! I was stunned. I had 2 other kids take this test and do much better-- even the one with learning problems. I hate to worry about a test (I hate standardized testing-- BLAH!), but having a 9th grader and I have learned this awful reality-- kids have to test somewhat well if they are homeschooled because they have to do well on the SAT. Colleges have to have something other than my transcript for my kid's grades to go on for admittance into their school. So, I want to work on this bit by bit now while she is young and more willing to bend and maybe see where my homeschool needs to be strengthened for my other kids. So, I need suggestions-- especially for working on the computer (we rarely do that), reading comprehension and seeing the big picture in math. Please understand I do not wish to teach to any test. I don't want to start a big back in forth on how horrible testing is-- I agree it is!!! But, I am just trying to work with how to cope with testing when it is needed... Does that make sense!! I am in such a hurry that this may not make any sense... LOL. I should also mention that she did really bad on the MAP testing also that is done at the beginning of the year to see progress, placement, etc... But, it was the very first day she attended school and on a computer which she has never used for testing before.

This helps so much. I have been testing her at least once a week and she does fine on all her tests except math. She does pretty well on homework... Still there are a lot a careless errors, but nothing like on the tests. These are all helpful and hopefully I'm moving in the right direction. Thank you again!

She is amazingly musical and creative could that be why she struggles with planning? I know that really creative people are not always planners. I always tell her that planning is a learned skill. I will research executive function. Thank you!!

I don't think she has ADHD. I have a child that has been diagnosed with ADHD and though she is distracted sometimes, she can focus when she wants to. These are great suggestions-- thank you. How do you do all the checking with 5 kids homeschooling? I'm homeschooling 3 kids with one in public school and I feel very pulled in many directions. I'm doing a Great Courses study skills course with her and we are doing ACT Prep which has daily math problems that we race to do together. I will check out the TED talk right now. Thanks again.