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I like having my watch. At first I thought I would regret it, until I turned off the things I didn't want. I ignore a lot as well. But I like being able to see how active I have been vs days I haven't been active, and it just is a reminder to get out and do another walk, or get up and do a few more chores around the house.
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Sending healing thoughts to your dc❤️
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Correct me if I am wrong as I often am! I thought that the Auto bailout of 2008/2009 was passed through the legislature, whereas the current form of debt relief was an executive order. Isn’t that one of the most important differences? Here was a Brookings analysis of the debt relief https://www.brookings.edu/articles/putting-student-loan-forgiveness-in-perspective-how-costly-is-it-and-who-benefits/ Here were some key parts that struck me: Even $10,000 in debt forgiveness would involve a transfer that is about as large as the country has spent on welfare (TANF) since 2000 and exceeds the amount spent since then on feeding hungry school children in high-poverty schools through the school breakfast and lunch program. Likewise, it dwarfs spending on programs that help feed low-income pregnant women and infants or provide energy assistance to those who otherwise struggle to heat their homes in winter. Beyond the sums that debt forgiveness would represent, the beneficiaries of student loan forgiveness would be higher income, better educated, and whiter than beneficiaries of other transfer programs. The following table describes the economic and demographic characteristics of beneficiaries of selected income support programs as well as would-be beneficiaries of student debt forgiveness. They recommended doubling the Pell Grant and reworking the Income based repayment plans (which the administration is now doing as mentioned above, through the SAVE program).
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So happy for you ! What a crazy stressful time period this has been for you, I hope you have years of calm to make up for it!
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Did you watch the video? And remember the women who disagree with their right to female only sports and prisons and bathrooms are not given any platform to speak on the left. Not for want of trying. The only media that will listen to them is the right. So they either use the avenue available to get their stories out, or they just aren’t heard.
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That is not an apt comparison at all. We are talking about biological males in female bathrooms and locker rooms. https://komonews.com/news/nation-world/after-trans-woman-exposed-genitalia-to-freshman-girls-in-locker-room-shower-school-district-faces-legal-scrutiny https://www.outkick.com/vermont-school-settles-with-family-for-125k-over-male-in-girls-volleyball-locker-room/ Here are two high school related locker room instances. Gender self ID means the biological male declares he is female and high school girls are shamed into silence when they push into female spaces. And now Title IX is protecting the males. At least in the second article I linked the family won the lawsuit for their infringement on their speech, though I don’t know if the locker room laws still stand.
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That is devastating. Just hits so hard.
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Can’t that be the same for people in the US? You can’t know what my local conditions are here, I can’t know what yours are there. Florida is different than Virginia which is different than the Midwest and the west. I happen to think some of the laws in California are frightening, but I’m not going to just label everything I don’t like as bigoted just because I think they are misguided.
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What it seems is that you are labeling all legislation that you disagree with as bigotry. So who defines bigotry?
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But labeling people’s opinions that might differ than yours as irrational bigotry is pretty irrational itself.
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I also find it very disingenuous to compare regret from minor surgeries to puberty blockers and cross sex hormones which cause sterilization, could affect brain development and bone density, and negate the ability of the child to ever experience orgasm.
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If one looks at the single topic of minors transitioning and puberty blockers to cross sex hormones in particular, then all of the treatment currently rests on “the Dutch Protcol”. However there are many flaws that have come to light with that singular linchpin of evidence. The Dutch protocol was a study of 70 patients who were studied with two follow up studies (2011 and 2014) and declared a success. There are a great many differences to the way the are being prescribed in the US today , and there are flaws within their methodology which invalidate their findings. For one, the way they were chosen - only the ones that were doing well on puberty blockers and ready to move on to cross sex hormones went into the first study, and the second study labeled the ones who dropped out (and one died during sex reassignment surgery) as non participants. Three had dropped out due to obesity and one had diabetes. So the study dropped to 55 from 70 but managed to keep the negative outcomes from affecting their results. The second flaw was administering the scale of dysphoria questions. The first study asks them how much dysphoria they are experiencing as their natal sex. After the hormones and surgery (if done) they are asked how high is their dysphoria as the opposite sex. These results are then used to show dramatic improvement in dysphoria. However over half still experienced gentian shame, and a quarter still felt inadequate about their bodies. From the article that discuses past and current pediatric and youth gender medicine - https://segm.org/Dutch-studies-critically-flawed “The authors assert that had the Dutch studies been published today for the first time, the "innovative practice" of using hormones and surgery to gender-transition children and young adults would never have been permitted to enter general medical settings due to the very low quality of the research, and problematic outcomes experienced by several of the young people. Unfortunately, since the publication of the final Dutch study in 2014, the practice of youth gender transitions underwent what's known as “runaway diffusion”— a problematic but not uncommon phenomenon whereby the medical community mistakes a small innovative experiment as a proven practice, and a potentially nonbeneficial or harmful practice “escapes the lab,” rapidly spreading to general practice settings. The authors note that the only way to curb the damage of ongoing “runaway diffusion” is to conduct systematic reviews of evidence, update treatment guidelines to reflect the lack of evidence, and then “de-implement” unproven or harmful practices—a process known as “practice reversal.” They observe that such practice reversals of “gender-affirming” interventions for youth are already underway in Finland, Sweden, England, and most recently the state of Florida.”
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It is not desirable. But the AAP and the AMA are acting like this is settled science, and it is far from settled. For minors, there is low evidence of efficacy, which is why other countries are ending it except in the context of research trials. But in the US puberty blockers and cross sex hormones and surgeries for minors are still happening on the basis of "informed consent", as if a 12, 13 or 15 year old understands the gravity of their decisions.
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I think this is where everyone is coming at this with different interpretations of the science as being "settled" or "not settled". Most of what I have read (studies like KSera linked above -- I've read from many of the researchers linked in that study) shows that there is a very low evidence basis for minors transitioning, and even less research done on the current cohort of post pubertal onset GD. There is evidence showing some success with adults, but there are still not a lot of studies and some still show long term regret, heightened suicide risks post transition, and long term medical consequences. And those were transitioned in a time when there were more safeguards and a longer process.
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But if one doesn't ascribe to gender identity, then the categories of cis and non-cis are meaningless. I believe in biological sex, and I believe that there are some people who have such severe gender dysphoria that they are best served by transitioning. But they are still biologically the same sex as they were always. As Melissa pointed out, patterns of violence follow biological sex patterns, cis/non-cis are not relevant, whereas biological sex is.
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Gender self ID is the law in CA. If you read the reports from a year or two ago about the Wi Spa incident, you would see how the gender identity laws harm women's spaces. There was a full bodied male in the women's spa area (Korean Spa, everyone woman was nude). He said he was trans. He was also nude and very much aroused. The women complained to the desk attendant, was called a transphobe by others, and told by the desk clerk that there was nothing they could do -- "she" was female. Turns out she was also a sex offender with previous convictions, and so was later arrested. If this continues, women will be driven out of women's spaces.
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I have read different instances in England, I think, where the schools changed all the bathrooms to gender neutral. Full cubicles with shared handwashing areas. The girls hated it. Period shaming was one of the biggest reasons. I know my daughter is terrified of just the sound of opening a pad -- there was one brand that had a silent wrapper and then they changed the wrapper which really upset her. I couldn't imagine her unrwraping a pad in a cubicle next to a boy. Then of course there are the times when your flow is heavy and you get messy. Who wants to wash blood off your hands next to a teenage boy?
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WIlliam Malone is an endocrinologist who has written for SEGM (society for evidenced based gender medicine) about the potential harm for females taking puberty blockers -- apparently adolescence is the period for increasing the most bone density, and taking puberty blockers doesn't just delay that period. It reduces the time period in which the bone density is increasing by a few years. This can lead to osteopenia and osteoporosis later in life. Precocious puberty blockers, by the way, haven't been through trials -- they are prescribed off label. The other issue is that if the gender dysphoria is due to sexuality (which is common to gender dysphoric kids), then puberty is where kids discover their sexuality. Puberty blockers do not allow them to do that. 98 percent of kids put on puberty blockers go on to cross sex hormones, yet in previous (before ROGD) studies watchful waiting for gender dysphoria led to an 80 percent desistance rate with two thirds of desisters realizing they were gay or lesbian. With puberty blockers a one way route, the kids never get a chance to understand their own sexuality.
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For Gender, the only thing they have had to go by is WPath's Standards of Care. And the latest version is VERY problematic, as is it's history. But there has been nothing else.
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The Tavistock clinic - the main clinic in Britain - has done internal reviews since I think 2006 with physicians raising concerns about the gender affirming model and about kids being rushed through transition without adequate evaluations or mental health counseling. The Cass Review and the Keira Bell lawsuit brought about the first changes, and the book Time to Think by Hannah Barnes tells the whole story of what happened. One reason why other European countries are changing course is because their medicine is socialized. We have too many drug companies and private practices profiting off of this "newly developing industry". One clinic (in Tennesee? Or Boston?) had someone on video speaking to the amount of money these complicated surgeries would bring in. With the Tavistock and with some of the other countries, there is one main gender clinic seeing these kids. IF they are keeping data, then the trends are very clear. (At the Tavistock they showed about a 35 percent rate of Autism. There was also a very statistically high rate, from what I recall, of sexual trauma or a parent being a sexual offender.) There is no benefit to private doctors here to keep records of outcomes, many detransitioners don't want to follow up with them if they felt they had bad care, and there is very little recourse to be had with lawsuits with the way medical practices have protected themselves.
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This quote is from a butch lesbian's post she wrote for Gender Dysphoria Alliance . I will link to the whole post below: "I don’t doubt that sometimes medical transition is helpful for people. It’s not my place to say they can’t or shouldn’t. But let’s not sell this like it’s a Disney park ride. The marketing of everything trans is ridiculously misleading. Don’t put sparkles and rainbows over real pain as though that helps at all. It’s insulting. If we really want to help these kids, we need to make it easier for lesbian kids. Butch kids. All gender non-conforming kids. The quirky and awkward kids. Kids who feel they don’t fit it. Let’s get better at working with parents and preserving families. Be honest about what medical transition is really about. No one really changes biological sex and these procedures are really hard to go through. Why are we putting all of our resources into escaping brutality rather than eliminating brutality? We’re cutting up our bodies because our lived reality is worse. Why do we celebrate that?" https://www.genderdysphoriaalliance.com/post/when-we-were-butch
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There are charitable reasons that are the ones most talked about, amongst the shouts of inclusivity and "be kind". No one wants to talk about the very real phenomenom of men being Autogynephiles. Yet it is a thing, it has been studied starting I think 50 years ago, and it accounts for some (not all!) of the pushing in on women's spaces. Showing up to a homeschool camp in a revealing tutu and cone shaped top immediately sets off alarm bells in my mind as this person possibly being an inappropriate and boundary pushing AGP. I wouldn't treat them differently, but I would be grateful for social norms to protect women's spaces. Trans is not one thing, and acknowledging that does not make someone a bigot.
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And that is not the fault of the law, unless it is badly written, in which case it should't stand. A medical diagnosis of precocious puberty is different than gender dysphoria, and saying a specific drug should be used for one thing and not the other is not unheard of as far as I know.
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And that is a different law than banning medical and surgical transition for minors. Media lumps these all together as anti trans laws but that's on them. It's up to the voters to use critical thinking in what they support or reject. They aren't the same.
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Pushing back on laws the are good because they are done for a wrong reason seems short sighted to me. Politicians will come and go, public opinions will wax and wane, but robust laws will stand and bad laws will not. But some feminists hold their noses and work with the Christian Right on this issue, and others refuse. They are both personal choices and I don't judge either.