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  1. Logic: Art of Argument & Discovery of Deduction at CLRC Math: Saxon 8/7 Science: Fall: Earth Science CPO Science Earth Science Middle School TOPS 23 Rocks and Minerals Spring: ES Astronomy History: Middle Ages for the Logic Stage at WTMA Geography: Evan Moor Daily Geography 6 Spelling: Vocab from Classical Roots Grammar: Grammar for WTM (1/2 speed) Writing: WWS 2 at WTMA Foreign Language: Latin: some of the Oxford Latin Course Part 1 at CLRC Spanish: Homeschool Spanish Academy?? Art & Music: HFA Grade 6 – Medieval and Renaissance Art and Music I'm thinking hard about investing in Atelier Literature 400-1600: I'm working on this list now PE: swim team
  2. My baby will be 5 next week, so we're starting then: phonics & handwriting: finish memorizing the sounds of the alphabet, then 100 EZ Lessons and OPGTR Math: probably RightStart A, with some Saxon K thrown in for reinforcement Science & Social Studies (required in my state): MP's Kindergarten Supplemental Science & Enrichment read aloud set & BFSU Lit: read-alouds, lots of mythology Foreign Language: my mother thinks it's only fair to sign this child up for Spanish if Big Sis is getting it too, so...maybe Homeschool Spanish Academy?? Extras: swim lessons, maybe a Kindermusik class, a substantial art table, Girl Scouts Daisy, 4-H Cloverbuds, the occasional Ivy Kids kit
  3. DD will be in 6th next year: WTMA Expository Writing II Middle Ages for the Logic Stage CLRC Intermediate Latin Beginning Logic Homeschool Spanish Academy I'm investigating Spanish I through here
  4. Here you go: https://www.memoriapress.com/curriculum/american-and-modern-studies/states-and-capitals-set/
  5. I would not be in the least bit surprised if we cut out the extras, the memorization, the logic, and some of the supplemented history--but I like to plan for more than we get done, in case it does all get done. Math: RightStart E, with BA 3D then as far as we get in 4 (daily) Latin: Ecce Romani I (daily) Grammar: maybe Hake again, but I'm looking forward to SWB's new one (MWF) Spelling: Spelling Workout D (MWF) [we skip a lesson if she passes a pre-test with 100%] Composition: CAP W&R III M/W/F, EIW 4 (only the writing) T/R, then some of LToW in the spring Literature: (MWF) -- Heidi (MP guide), Collodi's Pinnochio, HG Wells Time Machine, War of the Worlds, Blue Fairy Book (MP guide), The Secret Garden, Wind in the Willows (MP Guide), Beatrix Potter, MP Grammar Stage Poetry. Memorization: poem memorization, probably with IEW's poetry guide (daily) Logic: Logic Countdown, Logic Liftoff, Orbiting With Logic (daily) History Memorization: US Constitution Preamble, Gettysburg Address, US Constitutional Amendments, US Presidents 1850-present, major US Wars 1850-present (daily) Handwriting: Grace Song's Brush Pen Lettering (M/W/F) and Angela Lord's Creative Form Drawing (T/R) Science: Pandia Press's RSO Astronomy Level 2 (12 weeks), Exploration Education (12 weeks), and Nitty Gritty Earth Science (12 weeks) History: 5 day loop with SOTW 4 (3 days), with AG (questions, maps, some suggested books) supplemented with little bits & pieces from Teacher Created Materials, Inc.'s out of print Thematic Units (Industrial Revolution, Transcontinental Railroad, The Depression, Native Americans, WWI, WWII, Westward Ho, Immigration, Gold Rush, African Americans), looped with Kristin in VA's History of US schedule (1 day -- just read and oral narration), and WV history (1 day -- just read and oral narration). Geography: MP's US States & Capitols (MWF) Extras: 9 day loop of MCT Poetry (2 days), Harmony Fine Arts (3 days), Computer Projects, hand sewing/embroidery, health, and Lynne Seddon's Exploring Nature with Children. G3 Scratch class in the autumn swim gym MWF piano lessons Girl Scouts possibly 4-H if we get a homeschool club going
  6. My DD, at her current age, does much better with a plan, as do I. She needs to make written lists and plans and schedules. We're both "give me a list and let me be" type people. She enjoys diagramming like other children enjoy jigsaw puzzles. She enjoys comparing languages, and had my mother in stitches the other day by making jokes in Latin. She writes stories constantly -- she needs to create entire worlds in her mind. I am trying to support her strengths. Here are my thoughts this morning: If the four main parts of grammar-stage English language arts are spelling, composition, grammar, and reading, then the progression of those topics would be: 1) spelling graduating to etymology (programs such as English from the Roots Up) and then more languages 2) composition would graduate to a) technical writing (a rhetoric progression) b) creative (short stories, novels, etc) 3) literature analysis is a field all its own 4) grammar would graduate into linguistics So then, I think, my long-range goals for her, so that she can demonstrate mastery in those four areas are: 1) Continue to study Latin, possibly pick up Greek, and maybe pick up a modern. Demonstrate mastery in one or more language, possibly through some sort of national exam. 2) Composition: a) Continue and complete a rhetoric progression. Demonstrate mastery, possibly through an AP English Language and Composition course and exam. b) Continue creative writing and demonstrate mastery by being published (not self-published). c) Begin and complete a research project in an area of interest with a substantial formal paper as part of the product. 3) Grammar: continue prescriptive grammar, and then successfully take a linguistics class in high school. 4) Continue to read widely and deeply. Demonstrate mastery through something like the SAT II literature exam. Possibly take Am. Lit. and Brit. Lit. at a college. Intermediate goals would then be: 1) Continue to study Latin, and possibly pick up Greek. 2) Composition: a) Continue a rhetoric progression b) Continue creative writing (and maybe get published in an age-appropriate place) 3) Grammar: continue prescriptive grammar 4) Continue to read widely and deeply, with required reading around the history cycle and for the study of literature analysis. "Fun" reading at her discretion. When emotionally ready, tackle more advanced themes.
  7. Hi! I'm looking for suggestions. My DD is a rising 4th grader, but asynchronous in language arts (not mathematics). She enjoys classical education Well-Trained Mind style for its language-centered focus. Looking forward to middle school and then high school, I'm wondering how I customize a middle/high school pathway that would showcase her language arts talents? If she was talented in mathematics, it would be easier, I think -- algebra earlier, and then follow some variation on the typical sequence. But I'm having trouble thinking about something similar for language arts. It's very clear that a student has completed Calculus, for example, but how does one show an equivalent level of accomplishment in the language arts? What goals am I aiming for here? I feel as though the destination is out of focus, and if I don't know at least what continent to paddle towards, we'll end up in the South Pacific Garbage Patch. :) MCT just doesn't speak to me, but I'll give it another look. Suggestions? (cross-posted)
  8. I'm not sure what you're responding to. Did my teachers try to drill our accents out us? Absolutely. Still happens. My husband finds it very disconcerting to hear my accent change when I'm tired or upset. ETA: If you have other concerns please feel free to contact me directly. I'm going to stop following this thread. Too busy.
  9. Well, right, there are kids who teach themselves to read, etc. But I thought we were talking about non-gifted kids.
  10. I apologize if I came across as critical, I really do. This is a tender subject for me. I really am just confused about the long-term goal here. I have personal experience with advanced coursework and social issues, and it's a long-standing issue for gifted children, especially later in middle school. I'm not trying to judge, and I apologize if I came across that way. I am really just befuddled. I am aware that PS parents worry about social skills--I make social skills a priority in my own children, because I worry and judge myself on this issue. Here's a story this week: I sent my daughter to math camp at the local private school this week, mainly for social skills practice. First day, we walk in, and one of the other mothers (whose daughter announced on the last day of preschool that she wouldn't be coming back because she was going to a better school) asks the instructor what they're doing that day. Teacher says they're working on place value. Mother immediately turns to the daughter and goes, "X, you know that, don't you?!" Child goes, "I don't know." Teacher says, "Well, here we do that in kindergarten." I am so tired of this one upmanship, and parenting (and teaching!) as a competitive sport. Funnily enough, like elmerRex, I think that in the long run, "A bright person with good discipline and work ethic may succeed where a genius person with no discipline and sloppy work ethic may fail." AND "I also see many of the genius people amount to nearly nothing." I totally agree! But, I also see many with good discipline and work ethic (and geniuses with good discipline and work ethic) who flounder at work (and at home!) because they have poor social skills--and that's just unnecessary pain and suffering. Prime example: See me floundering here on this thread with my poor social skills? Here I am, trying to get a point across that I think we'd probably all agree on, and not doing a good job. Instead, I'm :banghead: when I should be all: :coolgleamA: I really appreciate you taking the time to explain the logic to me. Obviously, I don't know anyone face-to-face who does this that I feel comfortable asking about their motivations. I find this absolutely fascinating. It made me laugh to read the "why would you not do this" response, because it's so diametrically opposite of many ideas about childrearing--and yet, I completely agree that A bright person with good discipline and work ethic may succeed where a genius person with no discipline and sloppy work ethic may fail. I think Think about this--3-7 year old kids have nothing but time on their hands. a very interesting POV, and one, quite frankly, that never occurred to me. I had and have serious goals for my 3-7 year old that don't revolve around academics. I find this fascinating: Every single child that my son knows attends Kumon and has since they were 3. That is a huge cultural difference. Again, I thank you for taking the time to explain this to me. Yes, a nerve was touched. Yes, I was in a hurry--I was nursing a screaming baby. I'm not sure which way you took it. I have very poor personal experiences and strong feelings about social isolation and gifted children, and poor social skills, and the adult expectations on gifted children, and the self-imposed expectations that gifted children have. It's one reason I feel so strongly about making sure my kids have really good social skills. Furthermore, most families I know who homeschool make financial sacrifices in order to do so, and we're lucky that we're able to make those sacrifices. If rent money depended on working 2 jobs, it'd be ... well, maybe not impossible, but certainly nearly so. Just think about that mother who was arrested for leaving her daughter in the park! She needed her daughter to be in some kind of childcare that public school generally provides. *chuckle* I'm from WV. When I'm tired, that's how I talk, even though my elementary school teachers did their level best to drill it out of us, on the basis that we'd never get "real" jobs if employers thought we were hicks.
  11. :iagree: To me, the value here would be the IGs....and then I read that thread I linked to earlier, and now I'm like..hmmm....Not So Much!
  12. I suspect that these families of whom you speak have, y'know, books in their house, too. :mellow:
  13. This is why not. Read the whole thing, not just the title.
  14. 5th grade is 10/11 years old. So yes, it's advanced, if he's six. By definition. I suspect that you have excellent math skills yourself, if you can teach problem solving without a curriculum. a) I don't understand why you would begin math instruction as toddlers. b) I'm curious as to what you would do if your child said, "No, I don't want to do this." :iagree: :iagree: :iagree: This....plus Why would you do this? What's the point? Are they going to graduate from high school in the 8th grade, get a job early, and pay taxes earlier? I disagree that Asian students are superior at STEM occupations, by the way. I don't think the research bears that out. Time is limited, so all that time spent on academics at a young age is at the expense of something else. Isn't that "else" important, too? I mean, we all know really smart people who get fired because they can't schmooze with the boss, and we all know complete numbskulls who keep their job because they impress the right people. Personally, I'd rather my child kept the job, even if they didn't take calculus in 8th grade. But hey, I'm a slacker American parent with mouthy, lazy kids....
  15. I live in West Virginia. I am a certified teacher. As a kind of community service, I did portfolio reviews this spring for HS-ing families, at $25 per student. Here in WVa, we're required to turn portfolios reviewed by a certified teacher, in in lieu of a standardized test, at the end of every school year, in June. The state standard just says "progress in accordance with abilities." It doesn't say how much progress, or of what kind. Soooo... I saw a wide variety of homeschooling. It was eye-opening. I saw portfolios in which no math work had been done since January. I saw portfolios where the student just answered the reading comprehension questions at the end of the chapters for all their textbooks (we can get public school textbooks upon request, if they're available). I can certainly believe that someone would pick up a Complete book and use it for the entirety of the child's educational curriculum, without any extra-curricular, unschooling, daily-life-learning activities, or even other books in the house. In fact, I belong to a number of Facebook groups about homeschooling, and at least once a week, someone asks a question such as: "I decided to homeschool this year because social anxiety/Common Core/bullying/mean teachers/we move a lot/religion. What free curriculum can I get (hopefully online) that my child can do themselves? I ain't so good at math." 95% of the time, I see: "Easy Peasy" "Time4Learning" and "DiscoveryKids" These parents have zero interest in the academic difficulty of the education. They just want to outsource it as a box they can check, "Yep, Clem done did his larnin' t'day." These parents have just as much right to homeschool as we do, but they have very different educational values.
  16. I dunno, I got that out of a spelling FAQ on the Internet. :huh: I was hoping that there was something that gives you actual spelling rules. AAS seems to do that.
  17. True, but I'm just getting started with first grade, so I could in theory be done with math....So very tempted! ;)
  18. Nobody recommended MCP's Plaid Phonics? It's moderately thorough, I think. It's almost completely doable without parental hovering. It's workbook. It's got pretty pictures. It has handwriting. It didn't work for us, but my daughter thinks handwriting is a nasty trick someone pulled, so there's that. ;)
  19. So if I wanted something that focused on rules like this: "The letter i represents the long e sound when it appears before a vowel", I should get All About Spelling?
  20. Just in case anyone wasn't on the mailing list, Math Mammoth is on sale today through the Homeschool Buyer's Co-op. I'm mightily tempted.
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