# 4KookieKids

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1. ## Math woes

So I'm clearly not in the know, here, because her working memory scores were a good 3 standard deviations from most of her other scores when we tested -- but I don't see why conversions tax working memory? (I realize I'm showcasing my ignorance here.) We've been letting her do her ft/yd conversions with a really long tape measure, but I feel like the *idea* isn't really sinking in, despite her figuring out the answers. And I'm torn in that place of feeling like she's lazy/not trying/ etc. (all those dumb things I know I shouldn't think of a kid who's struggling, because I *know* that kids do well when they can.) and honestly wondering if I'm just expecting too much maybe because I've been conditioned like that with my son. He's math gifted and autistic, too, but only mildly dyslexic, and for him things progressed more like: Here's how you multiply by 2's... a few examples... ten minutes of doubling later, he says, "I've got it! I can multiply! Ask me anything!" and I said, "Anything with 2?" and he responded, "No, anything!" So I asked him 13x7, and he thought for 30 seconds and then answered correctly. Conversions were the same: It only took him about 2 minutes to go from hearing that 12 in = 1 ft to being able to convert 88 in to ft and in combined and back. I'm trying hard to not compare them, but he's the only other kid who's already been through this, so I think I do it without meaning to (my other two are younger PreK / Kinder still).

3. ## Favorite Great Courses?

So how do we know which ones are more visual and which ones not? Is there a list of "good" visual ones?

All of my kids ages 5+ are dyslexic. So I read it to them. It's not a problem.

6. ## How and why do you write an IEP while homeschooling?

This is a fun idea. You're suggesting just to do it at home to get a feel for what's actually helpful?
7. ## How and why do you write an IEP while homeschooling?

So what makes an IEP "legal" is that it's an agreement on the school's part? The college board website makes an awful big deal about how easy it is for schools to get accommodations for students who have an IEP, and they make it look pretty hard to apply for accommodations outside of that specific scenario (school doing it for you, you already have an IEP in place). I just wasn't sure how resistant they really are if you can't check that box, you know?
8. ## FUN all-in-one app (like ABCmouse) but for ALs?

Not that I'm aware of you. Guided access will lock it into one app, but you can't even load different users onto it. They say it's just supposed to be a one-user device.
9. ## FUN all-in-one app (like ABCmouse) but for ALs?

We do a fair bit of driving and my kids are pretty used to listening to audiobooks and doing coloring/sticker books while we drive, but we have a 16ish hour drive coming up in a month, and -- unlike most of our drives where I have another adult there to handout snacks and otherwise help -- I'm going this one alone. We also have a variety of fidgits, rubiks cubes, kanoodle, magnetic games, etc, that they're used to doing on trips. So I feel like I would like to get them something novel to keep them busy for at least some of this trip. Novel - but not messy... lol. My kids are 10, 8, 6, 4, and they can't read in the car (car-sick and 3 dyslexics). They don't enjoy or do very well with roadtrip games like "I spy" or "See who can find something that begins with A... Z" sorts of games. Hit me with your best ideas for non-messy, quiet things kids can do in a car, without losing or dropping pieces!
11. ## Online drum lessons

Any good recommendations from people who actually know drums? I realize I can just do a google search, but I have no way of knowing if what I find is in any way good. ðŸ™‚
12. ## Is BA5 really harder than 3&4, or are EF deficencies just catching up with us?

I do this frequently, showing him kind of the "main" point to write down so that he can follow his work later. But I've also been doing it for the last two years... ðŸ˜› I'd hoped it would sort of come naturally after enough modeling, but to no avail yet! lol.

14. ## Civics in elementary school...

So we're moving to a state that requires students study civics every year, and I'm trying to figure out exactly what would meet that requirement. Do you think I'm supposed to assume it's US civics only? What are civics, exactly? Just government? Or economy, too? My kids are 4th, 2nd, K, and PreK (obviously not on the books officially yet). I'm considering just looking for a straight up text book, and then just using it more like a "list" of things to talk about with them, just a topic a week or something like that (not having them go through the book at all themselves, it would just be for me.) Any recommendations? I don't want them on those free online civics apps, fun as they seem. The last thing my kids need is more screentime! lol.
15. ## Computer suggestions

It's really not, actually. I only gave it as the example of how they use it NOW. If all that mattered were my current list - which boils down to web browsing and word processing - I'd just buy them a cheapo \$150 Best buy back to school laptop like we got for DH (who really does only use those things). My hope here was to find out what sorts of things they could be doing on a laptop that would be very helpful, either now or in the future, and then buy something accordingly (with the understanding that, at this point, I don't want to spend \$\$\$ on a macbook). So I do really appreciate your suggestion to look at a refurbed iPad and the other conversation about apple just being more accomodation-friendly. It's that sort of info that is helpful to me (along with figuring out what people actually DO that makes them more accomodation friendly). ðŸ™‚
16. ## Computer suggestions

Part of my problem is that I don't know exactly what I want it to do. Sure, I know what I want it to do *now*, but the main reason for this question to begin with is that I'm not sure what I'll want it to be able to do in the next few years! lol. Right now, the kids primarily use my computer for * watch Nova/Youtube vids * Use Google docs for "writing" things (stories, summaries, letters, etc.) * Web browser stuff like XtraMath, Alcumus, Prodigy, Code.org, Typing.org, etc. * Arduino We do have a little iPad mini that they regularly use for Barton, and very occasionally get to use for stuff like DragonBox. So that's what they do now, and I'm tired of seeing them dragging my laptop around and getting it stepped on by the dog and the like. So I'd like to get them something more study and less expensive. IF that something could also have *things* that would help them as they get older (whatever those *things* may be - apps, accomodations, whatever), then that would be perfect. It will have to be something shared by all my children, rather than getting something for each individual child at this point, if that factors into the recommendation at all.
17. ## Computer suggestions

Really?? The chromebooks by us are far cheaper than any ipad, even without a case. Which chromebook and ipad are you referring to?
18. ## Computer suggestions

What should I be looking for in a cheap computer for kids with dyslexia/ASD/ADHD? I was thinking of getting a Chromebook for my kids to use for school, because they are not at all gentle with my own laptop. They are already relatively comfortable using Google's voice typing online through Google Docs, but we have not really ventured into the world of tech too much with them outside of that and some basic stuff like XtraMath, Code.org, Typing.com, and Prodigy. Right now, most of our time is spent on daily living, learning how to get along with others, and Barton (I've got kids in levels 2, 3, and 4 right now! lol.) Eventually, I hope to do a bit more "school," with them so I'm trying to think ahead to what may be helpful. I really have no idea what I'm looking for. I guess that's part of my question. Anything in particular that is very helpful for a kid like this, from a tech perspective? It would be a school-only sort of computer, so I'm not concerned about gaming requirements or anything like that. My kids are rough enough on their stuff that I'm definitely looking for something on the inexpensive side.
19. ## Can't grasp carrying more than one place?

Thank you all. Yes, we do a lot of the mental math stuff and talk about how it's easier to subtract a bigger number and add back in (she's doing Beast and Singapore concurrently, Beast a level behind Singapore). She's getting things a lot of different ways! ðŸ™‚ We do all the cheats out there! lol. I would just like this to be a tool in her arsenal as well, I guess. Yes, I suppose I'm not yet used to putting things into perspective with her new ASD diagnosis. She is profoundly dyslexic and we've known that for the last year, but all of her other language skills (expressive/receptive) where at or above expected. (caveat: it's not clear to me that "normal" is actually a good descriptor here, since she was also told she was reading "at or above grade level" last year before the SLP did actual phonological tests and found her profoundly dyslexic -- she's just a bright kid who compensates as best she can, you know?) Would things like autism and dyslexia affect how she does arithmetic?She has relatively good number sense and can subtract any two digit numbers, but she often has a hard time remembering the extra ten when she's trying to do something like make 100 (e.g., she almost always says that you need 65 to make 100 with 45 when she's doing it in her head. On paper, she can *always* do 100 - 45, because she's pretty much got the "carrying one place" procedure down -- though whether or not she has the concept down is a bit more fuzzy, despite it being emphasized/explained over and over and over again, since 130 - 40 is often gets regrouped as (0) (10) (0) on top, instead of (0), (13) (0) because she forgets to *add* 10, instead of just making the new number a 10.) She does have poor working memory, despite having exceptional processing speed (99.7th %ile).
20. ## America the Beautiful - National Parks Pass

Forgive me if this has already been mentioned: nothing popped up in my search, but I'm not confident in the search function. ðŸ™‚ Some folks on the Barton fb group were talking about how they got this pass for their kids based on a dyslexia dx: https://store.usgs.gov/access-pass?fbclid=IwAR26l4JV0DA73hYx4P8_dcPws9Ccrr0OoWEaQumJri29d3CFzDp1JUdNhg4 Seems pretty cool to me, but I'm wondering what you'd actually include in a disability letter for dyslexia. I'm all about taking advantage of things like this that we can access, and I'd really love to get my kids passes, but I guess I worry they might roll their eyes at me if I do apply with "only" dyslexia as my kids' disability. I've read that the disability statement must include: that the individual has a PERMANENT disability, that it limits one or more aspects of their daily life, and the nature of those limitations. I guess I'm asking if you have any sample disability statements or if you have any ideas on how to actually word this? Our physician will sign off on it, I'm confident, but I'm just not sure what to put down. Also, for something like this, does autism count as a disability? How would one write a letter including that? (It'd be nice if I could just get passes for all my kids at once! lol.)
21. ## has anyone used the games from socialthinking.com/Zones of Regulation?

My kids really like Should I or shouldn't I? It's a little surprising to me, because it seems a little bit... dry... to me. But they seem to think it's as fun as apples to apples or something like that. They pull it out to play in their free time, when it's competing with monopoly and catan and chess and mancala.
22. ## What's the deal with crossing the midline?

Not at this point in time. DH is aware that my single biggest concern is lack of support for our children. So we're going to go and see what happens. I'm going to put out calls and just see what folks might be able to do for us. I believe the school in the area (there's 1 public grade school in the entire county) has relatively good supports, actually (funding is allocated on a statewide basis based on # of students, rather than neighborhood taxes, so the poorer areas actually have decent schools still) and that most of the support people in the area get seems to come through the school, instead of driving the hour to the nearest city. So I'll be interested to meet with them and see what they say. There's also a lot of home health care for elderly, but I'm going to see what I might be able to get in terms of getting an OT to come to our home, and possibly see all four of my kids in one longer chunk of time (someone may actually find it worth their time if they can get four appointments in in one fell swoop, right?? .... :D). Maybe nothing will come of it and I'll just end up driving the hour on a regular basis. But I'm at least going to try and see what I might be able to find.
23. ## What's the deal with crossing the midline?

Ha ha. No, I'm SO not an introvert. I'm an extraverted unschooly parent at heart. I already went through a grieving process the last few summers realizing that my kids don't "do vacation" and I have to just keep their school/structure all year long. I have no idea what my next steps are, honestly. We're moving this summer to a super rural place where OTs and psych's are an hour drive away. I'm very much at a loss as to what my next steps are. ðŸ™‚
24. ## What's the deal with crossing the midline?

Well we met for our feedback appointment today. Both girls got the ASD dx. The 3 yo had an ADOS score on the lower end of the ASD score range, while the 7 year old had a "close but passing" ADOS score, but the evaluator felt like it was still the right dx based on all the other information we had. And DH said that his clinician is finishing up the testing this Friday, but has said that ASD will likely be the dx as well (whereas before it was anxiety, depression, PTSD, OCD, and social anxiety...) So apparently I'm now in the minority of non-ASD people in my home now.... Me and the 5 yo... lol.
25. ## Can't grasp carrying more than one place?

Has anyone ever had a kid who couldn't figure out the carrying rule about re-grouping with 9's until the end and then a 10 at the very end (e.g., when subtracting something like 598 from 1234)? We moved on when she got stuck on it last year, and she finished the rest of Singapore 3, but I tried revisiting it this week and she's still completely stuck on it. She can get there on her own by a series of regroupings (e.g., turn 1 into 0 and 2 into 12, then turn 12 into 11 and turn 3 into 13, then turn 13 into 12 and 4 into 14) but it seems like WAY more work (to ME!! lol). This is the only way she can do this that makes any sense to her. I've tried base 10 blocks, drawings, trading in money, etc. all to no avail, and I'm out of ideas. She does often forget to actually *add* the 10, as well, and frequently just replaces the number with 10 (i.e., instead of turning 1 into 0 and 2 into 12 in the first step above, she'll turn the 2 into a 10. And then she'll cross off the 10 and put a 9, and cross off the 3 in the tens column and replace it with 10.) When I ask her why you put the 10 there, she can fix it on her own half the time, or so. I feel like she *does* get the idea, but her EF skills and very low working memory are working against her here. How do I know when to move on or if I need to hit this until she's solid?
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