Aw, that's sad for me. Not that it shouldn't be reported if it's violating licensing stuff. But just sad for me that we won't have access to it anymore. Guess we'll go back to the library's signing videos!

Is there an order to the videos posted, or do you just watch them randomly? I have a kiddo who would be interested in these I think.

I do not yet. I've tried reaching out a bit, and I've found a bit of help, but most of the people I've met (so far!) have kids who are very much in the "classic" autism camp, and so it's hard to find help with my robot-building, bilingual, artsy, extremely talkative and social (albeit incredibly awkwardly) and highly intelligent kiddo (who also just happens to be very ASD as well). I find myself increasingly cautious in sharing too much of our journey for fear I'll be laughed at for not having "real" problems (since it wouldn't be the first time).

Anything else you'd want to do that's fun, first? Last year (when he was 6) my boy especially liked graph theory (the kind with dots and lines and not bar graphs) and we talked about map colorings and the postman problem and Eulerian circuits and the Koenigberg bridge problem and all of that other fun stuff and he thought it was about the funnest math he'd ever done. :D

Cool. Thanks! I like that they're free and available online, whereas the library's signing time videos are often scratched and skip, but I didn't realize that they were the same lady. I thought it was very odd that they're called "English time" when it's all about signing, so I don't know if there are licensing issues in play. My kids really like them - even my 7 yo really likes to watch them with the 21 month old! lol.

Does anyone either have experience with these or is anyone willing to watch a bit of them to give me a review? I have a kiddo who won't talk (she's still young: not quite 2 yet) but is very responsive to signs, so I want to step up my game with teaching her signs. Here's the youtube link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGzvxtXEo5Kdc2-u7qZe7hA In particular, there are some that sign more than just single words in isolation, like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_2855361687&feature=iv&src_vid=vWoLBaUg46U&v=JDYABM4a-WI

Thanks, folks. Turns out I was making this way harder than it needed to be. The psychologist just said a neuropsych eval would be good for us but we'd need a referral from our primary pediatrician. I called his office and got the referral over the phone, even... lol. Dumb that I made it harder than it needed to be! :) In hindsight, maybe this was the wrong forum to post this on. I'd read so much on hear about intelligence testing, but perhaps it belonged on the LC board instead. It's still hard for me to figure that out with a 2E kid!

thanks! That makes sense and I've been re-reading it to learn it better because I always freeze up on things like this (even though we do are comfortable with and trust our psych).

We're just meeting with our psychologist this afternoon, so I'm trying to figure out what to ask/say. :)

Any particular test? Also, how do I find out who has experience with 2E kids in my area? Is there a list or something?

Thanks! I'll check it out. I mentioned it to my ped today while we were there for something else, and he immediately said that there are red flags everywhere, and he'd rather see us start getting private therapy at least for speech than wait another six months to re-evaluate everything. His opinion was that with ASD already in the family, having her lowest scores be in social/emotional and communication areas, despite clearly high intelligence, just screams asd again and so we should intervene sooner and perhaps more aggressively than he might otherwise recommend for a child this age. So now we're having a new speech eval done through someone he recommends in the next few weeks, and we'll do that until we can get in to one of the developmental people later in the year.

I'm considering having my 7 yo tested for achievement or intelligence. I have so many questions!! Would a test with our psych be best (assuming she does that), since she knows us well already? Would a talent search test be sufficient? How do you prepare a kid for taking a computerized test when they're not super familiar with computers (and it doesn't seem like there are a lot of practice tests available)? What sort of accommodations (e.g., sensory issues?) might be made (if any)?

What do you actually search for? I didn't see any results for anything in Nebraska, but I also didn't see anything labeled "developmental pediatrics" specifically, so I tried a variety of stuff like developmental disabilities, delays, etc. I found one person (not on the search site you listed, but just by searching online) who does this an hour away from me (noone closer that I could find) who is scheduling in October right now, and I haven't yet found anyone else, so I'd love to do some comparing! Will these folks have experience with 2e stuff, generally speaking? Is it worth it (in your opinion) to have my 7 yo re-evaluated by someone like this, even though he's been seeing the same psychologist for 3-4 years and already has an OT just 5 min from my house? He hasn't really had very broad evaluations, that I can tell: mostly just very specific when we felt he was having specific issues. But I wonder if there's more going on with him than we currently know, just because he is so dang smart.

Yes, it was through early intervention in our school district. I've never even heard of a developmental pediatrician, so I'll go look that up and see what I can do. Thanks!

Where or how do I get an IQ test for such a young child (not quite 2 yet)? I believe she is extremely intelligent and would be interested in pursuing this idea. In particular, I've found, when getting services for my son (oldest child), that his problems have to be "worse" (in some sense) because he's so smart, and most of the people we've worked with can't disentangle the 2e side of things. So I'm also interested in perhaps having him IQ tested as well, but I don't actually know where to start with something like that, that could separate the issue of high intelligence from the problem areas we're having/seeing.

I've been mildly concerned about my youngest kiddo and had her evaluated for delays. The ladies who administered it said that "normal" scores are 85-115, and she ended up scoring 85+ in all areas, so they said there's no cause for concern right now. But I find it a bit concerning, still, that she didn't score higher than 93 in any of the areas (half scores in the 80's and the other half in the low 90's). Is it really the case that since no one single score was "too low", it doesn't matter that all of them as a whole seem pretty low?

Well they said that at this point, she's not delayed enough to do anything except encourage her to speak more and wait and see how things are in 4-6 months. They gave her a test (DAYC-2?) that covered communication, but wasn't language specific, and said she scored just fine on it. They wanted everything between 85-115 and she scored between 85-93 in all areas, so she "passed" for now (but it makes sense to me why I've been concerned, since she scored low in all areas, with her lowest scores being right at that 85 cusp in language). So I guess we'll see what happens and perhaps reevaluate in six months or a year. They did say that, while her delays right now aren't "too" far behind, they definitely wouldn't want to see those gaps increase.

I'd love to read that! I wasn't really sure where this thread belonged (here or in LC board). :)

Hmmmm. We didn't get a checklist. I think maybe we only did an initial screening? They did ask what she says and we gave them four different lists of things she says unprompted, signs unprompted, repeats verbally with prompting, and repeats in sign with prompting (she'll repeat a few things that she never says/does on her own initiative, like signing for cheese). Short lists, granted, but we kept them separate in anticipation of being asked what she can say. We didn't distinguish between German and English for this part, and we didn't do any test of receptive skills other than to ask her to point to a few things in a picture book.

Wow! That's so much good stuff to think about!! We live in the US in a totally non-German speaking place. I grew up completely bilingual (German-English) but spoke primarily English after age 15 and so my German is definitely weaker than my English. My accent is fine, my grammar is good but not perfect, but to compensate, we listen to lots of audiobooks and audiodocumentaries and I study a lot to improve the little mistakes I make. I speak roughly 70% German to the kids when dh is not home (occasionally I lapse into English just because my older three are all speaking English) and we speak English when my husband is home since he knows no German. So my kids are used to getting a mix from me, and comfortable with that, I believe. The evaluation we had done so far was English only. I doubt I could find someone to do a German evaluation. I'm going to go think more about these other points you made, because they're so good. Thank you so much!

Thanks, all. We are meeting with someone next week to talk about her more. She makes noises to imitate us half the time, but they basically always sound like "ahh." The other half of the time, she just stares at us. I was worried things were really bad, but then she responded overwhlemingly positively to signing and I feel a lot better about her situation (and that it's probably just a speech thing that will get rectified pretty quickly). But I think we'll get her evaluated anyway. I think I just wanted some input on how open I should be to the suggestion of quitting/taking a break from German. I think in *some* cases, it does seem like a reasonable thing to do. But I also think a lot of stuff is "blamed" on a second language that really shouldn't be, you know? So I wanted to get just a little perspective before our meeting so that I'm mentally prepared. :)

Yes, I'm sorry I didn't mention that. That was the first thing we did when we started to have concerns about 6 months ago. Her hearing is totally normal.

She's 20 months and doesn't say anything, and doesn't respond to much of what we say either. It's improved a bit just in the last 6 weeks, but her receptive language is still very poor, and she doesn't even respond to her name a third of the time. On the plus side, we started supplementing with signs at Christmas time, and she's picked up on those extremely quickly! :)

I have a toddler with significant delays (particularly in speech - though we're still in the evaluation process, so are not completely clear on exactly what's going on). It's already been suggested to me that we quit speaking German with her so that her English can develop. I feel like it's codswallop, since I have three other kids who learned both (and one other had delays early too, though not speech delays). But part of me wonders (or fears?) that there's something to the suggestion and maybe I'm holding my kid back by continuing to expose her to both languages. They already tried to write off her speech delays by saying that it's because we speak German at home, and all I could think of was all the research showing that's not actually true (and that my mama instinct says that this is my fourth child who I've spoken German with, and there's something more going on than just that we speak German with her). Honestly, now that my three older kids talk to each other in English all the time, they don't get near as much German as I'd *like* anyway and the idea of giving it up completely is super discouraging. My oldest *just* started reading in German, and it was such an exciting moment for both him and me. Does anyone have experience to weigh in on this?

Thanks so much all! That's given me a lot of good ideas for the future. Unfortunately, for now, I think HP is going to go back on the shelf. Hubby had asked me to re-read it thinking of my kids one last time before starting it with them, and I realized at the unicorn blood drinking part that that would be too much for them. They're very sensitive. I think they could handle the end with Quirrel better than they could an innocent unicorn having its blood drank and the way it describes it. Ah well. delays this problem for at least two more years (until my next one stops napping, hopefully!). :)