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  1. 1 hour ago, Quill said:

    I was making a contrast to the friend regentrude said lives off-grid. I’m saying: that’s not the case with this person. She has internet, she has nice phones, she doesn’t work in an Emergency Room, she doesn’t have fourteen kids. I don’t make demands on friends for how soon they should text back; rather, I am tremendously insecure about whether people do actually like me or they are just barely tolerating me. Hence, my poll. What *does* it mean when someone texts you back a day later, but they don’t live in an Alaskan homestead? 

    From this thread, I learned that the answer could, in fact, be: I’m training you not to bother texting me, because I don’t want you to think I am actually available. 

    Hopefully you also learned that there might be no meaning behind it other than this is not a person who regularly responds immediately to texts; maybe not a person who habitually looks at texts when they come in or even every day.

    I don't have my phone set to notify me when texts come in. It's just not how I function. Has nothing whatsoever to do with my attitude towards any individual who may text me.

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  2. 50 minutes ago, Momto6inIN said:

    Some texts don't require a response, and I'm not talking about those. Silly "hey look at this" type texts or random observances or info given with no response required - then no response is no problem. But if a question is asked, then yes, I think over a day means something is up. Most of the time I would assume it was my fault for poor communication - that I had somehow worded my request in a funny way that didn't come across the way I meant it.

    I mean, if I left someone a voice mail and they didn't get back to me by the end of the next day, I would think something was wrong. Wouldn't you?

    I don't think that's all that high maintenance 😉


    No, I wouldn't think something was wrong if someone didn't answer a voice mail within a day. 

    I check voice mail way less often than texts, and I've already mentioned that I don't check texts every day.

    If I don't get a response to a communication of any sort and I need a response I will eventually follow up.

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  3. 1 hour ago, Mrs Tiggywinkle said:

    I think it freaked my local health department too. I signed consents for all the records, but I was feeling lousy and didn’t ask further what they do with those.  We are still quarantining because of my kids, but fortunately no one else has gotten sick. Curiously, my husband does have antibodies, but the last time we can remember him being sick at all was February.

    That is interesting about your husband; maybe he has had an asymptomatic infection then? When was his antibody test?

  4. 1 minute ago, Mrs Tiggywinkle said:

    I’m not trying to pick on anyone, but I am seriously concerned about mental health issues.  It’s also anecdotal but the attempted suicide rate here is more than I’ve ever seen.  One thing to consider is that counselors have shut down in person counseling, and teletherapy and phone conversations are just not the same.  People are really struggling, and mental health services are difficult to come by in good times.  I link it to my Covid experience the last few weeks, but I woke up with a severe depression and anxiety that I’ve never had before while sick.  I’ve gone on an antidepressant but even that was really difficult to get.

    This is a very real concern. 

    Anxiety, especially ongoing, long-term anxiety, is I think at the base of many mental health issues--and this year has caused so much anxiety in so many ways--pandemic, job-loss, having to juggle kids in online school, an incredibly fraught election, and on and on.

    And now we've got winter and shorter days.

    And then viral infections themselves can absolutely trigger anxiety and depression.

    And so can some medications.

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  5. 2 minutes ago, Mrs Tiggywinkle said:

    And to be fair, I am diabetic and have a crappy immune system to start with.  We won’t ever know; they called it presumptive Covid because it’s just that, it’s only presumptive.  I assume they leaned heavily on it being Covid because of a known exposure and symtoms within the time frame.  But there was so much we didn’t know then.
    It did not turn into pneumonia this time. I don’t remember losing my sense of smell in April, but I was honestly so sick I may not have noticed either. My temps were consistently around 104. Other than no pneumonia, I felt similar.  This started with GI symptoms and body aches, same as it started in April. Then I lost my sense of smell, then I started having shortness of breath on exertion.  And overwhelming fatigue that seems to linger forever.


    Thanks again for sharing your experiences.

    Lingering fatigue is awful 😢 I'm glad the rest of your family hasn't gotten sick, I hope you make a full recovery soon. Sending many hugs.

  6. 23 minutes ago, Matryoshka said:

    She wasn't in the ambulance after someone with Covid, but with the person, treating them.  And there was a lot of Covid where she was; at the time she was responding to multiple Covid cases a day, with possible exposure to each one.  It's more unlikely that she didn't catch it then in those conditions, especially without adequate PPE.

    This isn't a case of 'I didn't actually know anyone with Covid, but maybe I picked it up at the grocery store...'

    She was responding to multiple tested covid+ cases per day or multiple people having symptoms they thought could be covid? I don't remember seeing that information. I remember her reporting very very low covid in her area later in the year (summer maybe?) but don't remember any specifics from April. Most of New York state did not have super high covid spread in April.


    10 minutes ago, Mrs Tiggywinkle said:

    Haha I guess I’m a hot topic of conversation. 😂  In April, we had a 5.5%  Covid infection rate and weren’t seeing much if any other viral infections. I got stupidly exposed because my partner was treating a patient in the back, giving her a nebulizer and then not putting a mask on her after the neb was done so said patient was coughing all over. God only knows why.  The patient didn’t have a fever or triggered to Covid alerts that we had in April; she thought it was just an exacerbation of her asthma.  We were disinfecting between every patient, but not at the hospital. I didn’t wear a mask back to the ambulance station because it wasn’t required at that time. We were also running a crew of 3 and I sat in the patient compartment on the way back. Now we know all that Covid was probably still hanging in the air while I was happily breathing it in. 
    I started severe symptoms on day 13 after exposure.  On day 10 I had GI symptoms but at that time they weren’t really considered Covid symptoms. I had a negative test taken on day 13. On day 16 after exposure I wound up in the ER with ground glass opacity pneumonia. They labeled it presumptive Covid and as tests were hard to come by then, didn’t do another test.  

    I had antibodies two months later and did not have antibodies in September, then tested positive for Covid in late October, 6 months after what we assume was an originaL infection. The health department locally got all my medical records from April and the antibody test, and I assume they sent that to the state, but I haven’t heard more and was too sick to ask what they were doing with them.

    So we’ll never really know if it was a reinfection or not. I assume the DOH investigates anything that might be. I will say that if this was a reinfection, it was truly much, much less severe than what I had in April.  I’m achy and exhausted, and still can’t smell, but this was more of a mild flu.  I thought I was dying in April. 

    Thanks for reporting in!

    I want to make it clear I'm not questioning your account at all nor the very real probability you had covid in April, I just don't think the facts of the case allow us to confidently assume this is a reinfection. I know many people who had bad viral infections this past winter/spring that were almost certainly not covid who were much sicker then than they were when they later got covid.

    It sounds like it didn't turn into pneumonia this time, which is fabulous. Did you lose your sense of smell the first time? Have other symptoms felt similar?



    10 minutes ago, Not_a_Number said:

    I mean, it COULD be. But it's a lot of different bits of evidence pointing the same way. 

    It could certainly be a reinfection, I just don't consider the case for that strong enough to use as a solid data point. 

    Possible or even probable reinfection is still a long way from known reinfection. 

    I'm skeptical not in a "I really don't think this is true" way but in a "I can't be certain this is true" way; there remains plenty of room for other explanations. How many people with non-covid viral respiratory infections also rode in that ambulance? Most viral infections in April were not covid. Most viral pneumonias in that part of New York state in April were probably not covid. 

  8. Just now, Not_a_Number said:

    She had antibodies, though. Antibodies + being in NY state + being very sick in April is a little suggestive, no? 


    I was also hoping reinfection rate is low. The case on this board is making me nervous, though. It's not a very large sample of people, this board. 

    Antibodies plus pneumonia is suggestive, but the relatively high false positive rate of many antibody tests combined with the low infection rate at that point of time in most of New York state (not NYC) means it really isn't confirmative. Could be that most people who tested positive for antibodies in her area had not had covid.


  9. 4 minutes ago, regentrude said:

    I don't understand this statement:

    Then what does the study actually mean?

    It means they are still finding the kinds of antibodies that ought to be protective in blood drawn 5-7 months after the reinfection, but they don't know whether their study sujects have had subsequent exposures and avoided getting sick because of those antibodies.

  10. 8 minutes ago, Not_a_Number said:

    That's what I was hoping, but since we already have someone ON THIS BOARD who's had COVID twice, I'm assuming reinfections are not as uncommon as I was hoping. 

    If it's who I am thinking of, the first infection was not test confirmed so only a probable re-infection. 

    I certainly hope the re-infection rate is low; individual immunity certainly varies, and viruses mutate into new strains so some level of reinfection is not surprising. We aren't used to having so little information, but watching the research process play out in accelerated real time is quite interesting.

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  11. 5 minutes ago, regentrude said:

    But nobody knows how long the immunity from an infection lasts. Guesses are three months. 

    Data is actually showing that immunity on average lasts at least 5-7 months, and we'll have data on whether it lasts longer than that in time. Some antibodies fade but that's normal with any illness, and a virus that is still circulating tends to re-stimulate the immune system and keep immunity up.


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  12. 13 minutes ago, regentrude said:

    Oh, I have faith in the scientists - but I have absolutely no faith in the logistics abilities of the country and states to actually widely deploy a vaccine by next summer (and in enough people wanting to be vaccinated for it to be effective) . Look at how long it took to get testing and PPE. If we couldn't hack something as simple as face masks, why would I think we have the ability to distribute a substance that requires a complex cooling chain?

    One vaccine in testing requires a complex cooling chain, not every vaccine in testing.

    At the rate we are going, a significant percentage of the population will have had the virus by next summer. That percentage combined with those who are willing getting vaccinated might be enough to approach herd immunity. I'm getting my family vaccinated as soon as possible.

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  13. In my area, kids who have to quarantine because of a close school contact (say, the kid who sits nearest them, both in masks) testing positive are allowed back in school after seven days, no symptoms, and a negative rapid test. Is there any chance you could access rapid tests, even if you have to pay for it yourself? They've tested I think several hundred kids following this protocol and only three have tested positive, so the chance even after a known exposure of being covid positive but asymptomatic after seven days is quite small (kids who develop symptoms have to follow a different protocol so aren't among this rapid test group).

    Is your husband's work a likely high exposure environment?

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