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Here is my situation. I would love your feedback. :-)
My dd is in 4th grade this year. She just turned 9 in June. We have been using CLE for math, but are transitioning to Saxon this year. I knew I would switch her over to Saxon at some point and thought this would be a good time.
We have completed CLE through Lightunit 305. We have covered all of the multiplication facts except 6, 7, and 8. We have not covered division yet.
I spoke with Art Reed and he told me to go ahead and place her in Saxon 5/4 and if she has trouble with something, go back to Saxon 3 (which I have.....found it used) and go over it.
What would you do? I went through the Saxon 3 book and found that there are about 50 lessons that we have not covered in CLE. I mentioned to him maybe doing those 50 lessons in Saxon 3 and then moving on to Saxon 5/4. He said just to move on to Saxon 5/4.
We started Saxon 5/4 this week and completed through lesson 4. My dd9 says she likes it, but does complain about how long it takes. I think she is also struggling b/c the format is different. She is used to filling in blanks in a workbook.
What do you think?
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I'm so excited!! I found the sheets in the back of the Tests and Worksheets book. You just have to make copies to use for each lesson.
I had no idea they were back there!! Thanks for letting me know!!
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We just had ds do lesson 32 today!
1.) my dh set up the notebooks with one for 3 - hole punched copies of sheet B, C and D. Most of B, less C and even less D. Not sure if that makes sense or helps.
2.) mental math is only for showing the answer - no work involved (all in the head).
3.) Yes, make dc show all work beyond mental math section. Get them into the habit now!
4.) We did facts practice cards in Saxon 3. We only do the sheets. Though, I have been giving him some extra multiplication sheets from a website so he doesn't forget them!
Well, we used the sheets that came with the books. The one marked "B" for the mental math and lesson practice. Sheet "C" for Mixed Practice. E for tests. Why aren't you using those? We enjoyed them a lot. He made copies every couple of weeks and kept his work in his folder. I didn't use a binder, just a pocketed folder. His completed work went in the right pocket while his blank work pages were in the left pocket.I might be missing something. I didn't know about the sheets. I will double check my stuff. Maybe I overlooked something??
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I am pretty sure I saw some at Target the other day. Hope that helps!
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There's nothing wrong with using Saxon K. I used SAxon K with my 2nd daughter when she was about 4.5.
Is she ready to write out math problems? Some 4yr olds can and some can't. Does she recognize her numbers? Can she count to 100? If you say no to any of those I would start with K.
Saxon 1 does go over those but very quickly. If you want something more hands on and want to use a gentle approach I say go with Saxon K. Don't worry about what others are using. Go with what you think she is able to handle. Also there is a diagnostic test on the Saxon website. Try it out with her and see how she does. Its pretty accurate.
http://www.learningthings.com/samples/SAX/SAX_Placement-Inventory-Math-K3.pdf
Let this test guide you. Not the rest of us. LOL
She definitely can not write out her math problems. We have been struggling through the first few lessons just with her writing the number 4 and number 5. So maybe she would be better with Saxon K. Thanks for the suggestion about the diagnostic test! Didn't even think of that! :tongue_smilie:
Thanks to all of you for your suggestions!
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Thanks, everyone!!
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I am doing Saxon 1 with ds6 (1st grade) and dd4 (she'll be 5 in a few weeks) (kindy). I think Saxon 1 is perfect for my ds6, but I'm having second thoughts about using Saxon a level ahead for my young kindergartener. What do you think? Do you use Saxon on grade level or ahead?
Thank you!
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My dd9 just started Saxon 5/4 this week. I have a few questions if you don't mind :001_smile:.........
1) How do you set up your notebook?
2) Does your dc do the Warm-Up on paper, specifically the mental math?
3) Do you make your dc show their work or write out the problem?
4) Does your dc do facts practice other than the Facts Practice Sheet?
Thank you!!!
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:bigear: I am just listening in. I am also thinking about purchasing 3 desks for my children.
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I create an LP Schedule in the child's name. I make the lesson plans line up with the curriculum. So one lesson plan might be: Singapore Primary 1A&B. Then I submit it to the child's assignments using the LP Schedule to place it at the right times in the week.I do lesson plans for a particular curriculum usually, so I can easily use it again. For example, I have Rod & Staff English 3, Writing With Ease 2, etc. For history, I have one for SOTW 1, but it also contains Usborne readings and other books.
I have "Literature - Grade 2" with the books we plan to read this year. I might rename it before archiving, as I don't know if subsequent kids would be reading at the same level in second grade.
Thanks, ladies! That is how I was thinking about doing it!
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I am in the process of looking at online/computer-based planners. I am liking the looks of CM organizer and Scholaric, but I own HST+. I've owned it for years now, but have never been able to completely figure it out.
I have a question. I think it's a simple one. :001_smile:
When you create a lesson plan, do you name it after your child's name, or after a certain subject (ie, Math), or maybe after a certain grade level of Math (ie, Math 4). What has worked for you?
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I figured it out! :lol:
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I can not figure out how to print a weekly schedule on Scholaric. Can someone explain this to me? :001_smile:
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Have you tried EduTrack? It is about $60 to purchase. You can bump lessons (1 or all, just highlight and push plus or minus to move forward if back), print daily it weekly lesson sheets and sort by day or subject, do repeating lessons (you set date range, lesson range, days of the week you want it on, and it enters them), for many curriculum programs you can download premise plans for a dollar. They have R&S, Shirley English, Singapore, Apologia, and many many more.
If you do R&S grammar with DC1, two years later you want the same level with DC2 - copy from one child to another.
I tried the HST free trial and did not like it. It took me some playing around with EduTrack, but I learned how to use it a lot faster. It made more sense to me. I have done database development and had to pick them for work, it fit my needs better!
I entered all of my lesson plans for the year in less than 2 hours. But, I know I can change them with a few clicks!
It also does certificates, diplomas, transcripts, reading lists, and prints graph and tablet paper.
ETA: you can set up you breaks/holidays and it will automatically skip them when repeating activities.
I have not looked at EduTrack. I have heard about it, but haven't actually looked at it. Thanks for the suggestion!
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When you first set up each course you pick which days you want to schedule for it. Then when you input the first lesson there is a tab at the top of that box that says repetition. Click on that tab than click repeat. It will ask you for how long or a specific range of dates and presto! If you put in lesson 1 for example you will have to edit each one to correct the lesson number. Hope this helps. Let me know if I can answer anything else. I am actually really liking the daily plan over the weekly which we have always done.
Thanks for explaining all of that. I will check it out!
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Not to further confuse you but I have been using this
http://scholaric.com/marketing
and love it! It is extremely simple. I am not sure if you can print a week schedule out. However to me the best feature of it is that when you finish your day anything you didn't get to you can bump up to the next scheduled day so you wouldn't want to print out a week in advance. It is also $1 a month per child. Pretty cheap!
I have looked at it, but can't figure out how to make multiple assignments. For example, I want to set it up to increment by one lesson a day in Math. How do you do that? Thank you!:001_smile:
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I've used it a bit, but IMHO it's very overpriced. HST+ is $50 for life, not $100 per year. It is a slick program, easy to use, well supported, etc. It is also really nice to see JUST what you need that day. But (when I used it anyway) there is no way to prepare or see an entire week. I finally bought HST+ so I could print a whole week at once. Plus I don't like being tied to the computer and there aren't (or weren't) many reports.
I do like the "worked on" feature, and if there was a reasonable, single student version, I'd use it for my self-ed!
I really do like it, but I do own HST+. I really just want something fairly simple. I would like to be able to print out a daily or weekly assignment sheet for my children and at the end of the year see what we've accomplished. HST+ seems like overkill, but maybe it's not. Do you create lesson plans and then move them over to the assignment grid?
The CM organizer just seems so simple, but $10 a month seems like a lot when I already have HST+. :001_unsure:
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What are your thoughts? Did you like it? I signed up for the free trial, and it looks interesting.
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I will have a 4th, 1st, and Ker this year with a 19-month-old running around. I don't have any advice because this is my first year teaching 3. Last year I was only teaching 1. I am all ears and have been wondering the same thing. :bigear:
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Ok, I think there's something else: I LOVE the idea of doing school when it's not school time. 10pm or Saturday. But M-F between 8 & 5? Nope. My kids make excuses; I make excuses.
But at bedtime, I don't want to go to bed, & neither do we, & we're all quiet & reflective & could sit for hours reading poetry, discussing the political climate of Russia, etc.
Math is much more fun in the middle of the night. :D
OMG!! That is totally me! And my daughter! :lol:
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Thanks everyone for your opinions! It helps a lot!
ElizabethB, I didn't know that PP has a new edition! I will have to check that out!! Your website has been a tremendous help to me!!
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We used CLE math many years ago. While CLE quickly moves to being independent, it requires a teacher to be present at the first grade level.
IMHO, any math should require someone to be present at the first grade level. CLE does have flash cards and speed drills, which should be done with a teacher. Also, at the first grade level, students don't normally read well enough or have enough maturity or experience to do things on their own.
When we did CLE 100 level, we used manipulatives first before most lessons. Just get out some beans or pennies or whatever to show what you mean by 4 + 5 = 9. Most children that age need the physical representation to really understand the concept.
However, we did CLE 100 when my dd was 5. She was ready at that point. An older child who has exerience and maturity might be different.
Anyway, CLE does move to becoming more independent. But I think you should plan on being with your child for first grade regardless of which program you use. Or, if you are too busy, someone else, such as an older sibling could also help your first grader.
:iagree:There is still teaching involved with CLE 100, but just not as much as Saxon.
Saxon 5/4 placement question....spoke with Art Reed
in K-8 Curriculum Board
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Thanks, blessedmom3!! That helps.