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My dd is a young Ker. She turned 5 in August. I think Horizons K is too advanced for her. What should I do?! My plan is to start CLE 1 in 1st grade, so I want her to be prepared for that. What are my options? I don't mind switching to something else.
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Thank you! :001_smile:
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Cool!! Just wanted to check with you guys before I placed my order. He did really well with ETC 1, so I think we'll move on to book 2.
Thank you!
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My son just finished ETC 1 and I was wondering if ETC 2 comes next or ETC 1 1/2?
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I am getting ready to order level 4 and was trying to decide whether to purchase the TM or just the LU answer keys. I never used the TM for level 300 except to grade her work.
What do you think? Thank you! :001_smile:
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Something that has helped us immensely was a simple suggestion from a friend. Do science and history first. Since I started doing that, it's getting done! We're still not getting to projects and experiments like I wanted to, but at least we're doing the other stuff! (I have to keep reminding myself of this) I spend about 20 minutes per day or less on these subjects. I read to them and then we discuss. DONE. They dont' *love* it, but I feel SO MUCH BETTER that information is being presented to them and it's being discussed. What they chose to do with it is not within my control. I oftentimes wish there was more they could do independently, but again, I get very leery about where that will lead for my children. I feel that the grammar stage is highly interractive and really needs to be. It's the memorization of facts and information and with my kids, I need to be involved or their work becomes "busy work" or just "going through the motions". If they were passionate about a subject, that would be different, but I honestly don't know a lot of children who are "passionate" about school ;) I do have a friend whose son LOVES, LOVES, LOVES history and cannot get enough of it. Gosh, I wish I had that! LOL THEN, I would be comfortable with independent work. Don't get me wrong, it's not that I feel that kids can't work independently, I just feel that you need to be cautious about this in the grammar years.
You are in a very busy phase of life based on the ages of your children and it looks like you are already out of the house for a full day doing CC. Maybe you could do two days of science for 20 minutes (first thing) and then two days of history for 20 minutes (first thing). Honestly, my boys are in 3rd and 5th and this was the FIRST year I could get these subjects done consistently. It's not easy.
I hope this helps a little! :)
Thank you so much for taking all that time to type this out! I do think you're right. I'm thinking she just doesn't like history all that much.
We have been doing our history or science first, because if I don't, it doesn't happen.
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I don't bother to follow the history sentences either. We are doing American history at home but at a much slower pace. It doesn't bother me or the kids that our memory work doesn't sync up with what we are reading at home.
From what I've read, Leigh Bortins thinks learning is more valuable if you hear something a number of different times in different contexts. I don't think the memory work was designed to be a spine for history. It was a relief to me not to have to follow the history sentences in doing history at home....particularly in cycle 1, which REALLY accelerates quickly through history.
May I ask what you are you using for American history? :001_smile:
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Thank you guys for your opinions!!! You guys are awesome!!
Yes, I know this year they seriously pushed to use it as a full curriculum. I suggest pulling out SOTW III Activity book and also the cds. If you don't have the cds... spring for them. They have made SOTW a blast :) Then choose one activity a week to do.... as you listen through the discs in the SOTW then stick the older ones in your car.... Jim Weiss has several really nice cds that are good, and they are great for my 8 year old to listen to... over and over :) Artner American History is a decent guide to use, if you'd rather go that way :)But, seriously... I love SOTW and I'd just go with it. I'd pull out the WTM and do SOTW with the cd... just the way SWB says :) I love the Kingfisher's Encyclopedia ;)
Then..... for Cycle 1, I'd do SOTW I and Cycle II SOTW II.... I also would have on hand Missionary Biography type books to read, and books about Science :) God's Design for Science is nice, and you could pick one to go along with the cycle.... You can read the younger part, and do the project if you choose... and then have your older read the part for olders :)
You'll be fine... just plot out what you want to have her do.... You're still in control of this year... learning never stops.... CC ends early... and you have the summer!!
Oops... just saw you have the audio. Put it in the car :) Forget having her read it at home. Veritas Press has a decent History program that you might enjoy
Would SOTW Vol. 3 have enough American history in it? It sounds like a great idea! If I only ever used SOTW, would it have enough American history? I do not have the activity guide for volume 3. I do have God's Design for Science and like it a lot. we just don't usually get to it. :-) Thanks for your suggestions!
Have you tried using something like King Fisher History and letting the kids pick something from the synopsis to dig further into? We have done that. We also use Mystery of History as a jumping off point too. We could not stick with SOTW though I know many who love it.I do have Kingfisher History. I could definitely look up more info on the CC sentences in it.
We use the "break" after week 12 as a time to catch up on all the great resources we haven't had time for weekly. It is nice to use the time to catch our breath and dig deeper into history sentences.Great idea!
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I feel like a broken record! History and Science is not happening! My dd9, ds6, and dd5 are enrolled in Foundations (Classical Conversations). I had this great idea that I would build on our history and science sentences using the resource list that my director gave me (we are doing American history this year). I have had dd9 reading a SOTW chapter that correlates with the history sentence, but she doesn't like it. For some reason she has never liked SOTW. She complains anytime I pull the book out or turn the audio on.
I'm learning that I really like things planned out for me. I have very little time to pull it together on my own (mostly due to having a dd1 that is constantly climbing on tables or eating anything she can get her hands on). I'm very tempted to try a textbook approach. Living books sounds great, but it's not getting done.
I need some ideas for an independent history and science for a 9-year-old.
How do you guys have enough time in the day to teach 3+ children? If I had my dd9 doing something independent for history and science it would take such a weight off. And then when I got to the good books it would be an added bonus. I just feel like I'm not doing enough with my 4th grader.
Thanks for listening! :001_smile:
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Thank you guys for all of your suggestions! I actually cleared out a few kitchen cabinets this weekend, bought some bins at Walmart, and am storing the stuff we use on a daily basis in the cabinets. We will see how that works out. I will use the room in the basement to store the things we aren't using right now.
You guys are so awesome to share all of your good ideas!
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We have a school room in the basement, but always end up upstairs in the kitchen area. The school room in the basement is nice, but a little small for 3 children and a toddler. It also gets really cold in the winter and is easier to take care of dd1 upstairs. Our kitchen area is very spacious and bright. But......it sure would be nice to have everything right there when I need it. :tongue_smilie:
For now I have books stacked all over my dining room. Do you guys have any ideas of what we can put our books in? I want to be able to roll away/put away when the weekend comes.
Thank you!
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Thanks, guys! I had no idea I could jump in at grade level! I'm so glad I asked!
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I'm sure you can move on. :-)
Thanks, Ellie! :001_smile:
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My dd9 is in 4th grade this year. We are on lesson 60 in R&S 3. Do we need to finish the grade 3 book before we move on to the grade 4 book? Is there any way to speed up going through level 3, or will she miss too much good stuff?
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We use CC as our spine for science. We use our science memory work for the week as our starting point......but honestly it doesn't get done a lot. They do a science experiment every week at CC, so that's nice.
Is there anything that my dd9 could do on her own? It doesn't even have to follow CC cycle 3. I would just need it to be open and go. Any suggestions?
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Thank you everyone for your suggestions! I'm thinking I will just each let them have their own box and cards. It might be easier on me, kwim? :001_smile:
If your plan is to teach your 5 & 6 yo's together as a group, then they could share the same cards. They would both review all of the cards until they both master them. The cards allow you to customize the review for each child or group of children you are teaching. Any child who struggles should have their own cards (and I wouldn't pass them on to younger siblings for quite awhile because these kids tend to need frequent review of the phonogram, sound, and key cards). But those who don't can usually get by with much less review, so you can pass them on quicker.Do know that the first step of each level has you review the previous sound, phonogram, and key cards, plus these are covered in the "mastered review" scheduled each level. So you may need to "borrow" them back to do those reviews.
Has your oldest already done 1 & 2? If not, and if your oldest doesn't struggle with spelling, you can probably take him through Levels 1 & 2 quickly just to make sure he knows all of the concepts, and pass the cards on to the younger ones. Unless he's learned the concepts from another program, you probably don't want to start out in 3. But here's an article to help you decide where to start him. HTH some! Merry :-)
Hi Merry! You probably don't know this, but you are part of the reason I chose AAS 2 or 3 years ago! :001_smile:
When I first started homeschooling my ds6 and dd5, I had this brilliant idea that I would combine many of their subjects......but that's not working out so well! I have found that it is much easier on me to separate them. So....I'm not sure yet if I will combine them or not.
My dd9 has done AAS levels 1 and 2. She probably could do without the cards from levels 1 and 2 because she is a natural speller. Great idea to borrow them back! Thank you!
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Can I use the same card box for all 3 children, or do they all need their own box? What has worked for you? I will have 2 dc in level one and 1 in level 3.
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We use AAS with our natural speller, customised, with a rules based approach.
*DS looks through the list of words first.
*We review previous rules cards (helps to have those rules down pat to remind him of during dictation time :001_smile:)
*Since he's heavily auditory in his learning preference, we talk through the rules part of the lessons, verbally, together.
*Practice a little around rules/words that he needs some practise in.
All done.
No tiles, no spelling word cards etc with him, just as prescribed above.
(Merry helped us with possible ideas and taking many of her suggestions we arrived at the above, with AAS, for ds).
I think the hardest part for me was/is making sure I schedule (allow) time to do spelling each day. Spelling became the portion of teaching that was just too easy for me to drop off.
I don't do spelling with ds all year, just for a few weeks each term.. and this year he wants to complete the books, so has asked for summer time spelling (completing a 'school' book earns the student, & the mum, a reward in our home;)).
DD uses AAS as prescribed and NEEDS the daily lessons. But that's another story.
Thank you so much for that suggestion!! I'm going to try that! Great advice from Merry! Thanks for taking the time to type that out!
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We are using Sequential Spelling this year and loving it. I bought the DVDs for my 10 and 13 yo boys and the voice on the DVD dictates the words to my kids and they pause it, write, and then unpause and watch the computer graphic demonstrate the spelling. It's exactly what I needed--something hands off! My almost 9 yo is using it, too, only he's not much of a reader yet and I dictate it to him and check the words he's written. He wasn't picking up on the patterns of spelling it was teaching just doing it with the DVD on his own. It's going well again now that I'm dictating the words.
My older boys say it's "easy" (I'm having them do two lessons a day to speed up going through the books) but they are learning lots and I see their spelling improving! That's all that I want. We've tried Spelling Workout, apples and pears, Spelling Power, personal lists and this is my favorite so far!
Becky
We are using Sequential Spelling with my 3rd grader this year and it's going really well. It's quick and easy and she doesn't complain. She's really latched on to the phrase "Mistakes are opportunities to Learn" that they focused on at the beginning of the book. I'm interested to see how she does when we get to the review section to see what she's retained. She reads a lot, but has always struggled with spelling. She gets things backwards pretty often and likely has some type of dyslexia. She's really getting it with SS, though. And she doesn't hate it like she did last year. She doesn't have to spend time writing the same words over and over. She's getting the patterns of spelling and I've noticed that her spelling overall has improved dramatically when she's just writing random things around the house.This is very tempting! I have a friend in town that loves it as well!
A couple of people were interested in doing AAS with audio recordings. I've just started to do it that way with my kids, so it is probably a bit early to say, but so far so good.We're afterschoolers so our time for schoolwork is necessarily very limited. I want to do spelling in the car on our half hour commute to school, and also take advantage of the strong auditory memory of one of the kids. I don't think doing it this way has saved us any time, but it has meant I can put in my effort at a time of my choosing, and the kids can work independently.
I started recording the step (on my computer, using Audacity) and have virtually recorded the whole thing. Most steps are taking more than one session as I'm trying to keep it down to about 10 or so minutes on the recording. This is because they have to pause it periodically and write.
I start by saying "you will need" whatever it is (word bank etc) so they can gather their materials (which I've pre-assembled into a file, with some writing paper). Then I do some review for them - I dictate four sounds, and they have to write them down. Then I give them the answers so they can mark their own. Then we run through a few of the rules cards, and give the answers.
If the step says to build a word, I get them to write it down and then do whatever the teaching point is. So, it might be "write these words - pony, p o n y; milk m i l k".
After each exercise I give them the answers so that they can self-mark. I also spell out each of the dictation sentences. If they've made a mistake, I've got a section in their files for "review with Mum" and they jot it down and show me at the end.
If the step needs more than one session, I try to divide the dictations up so they do some with each session. Also, the last session seems to be mostly a "test" of the list words and the last dictations. At this point they're given a choice to do the test or go back and do the previous lessons first.
I'm sorry that was such a long post! I know there are a couple of other people on this board who do AAS in a similar way - I got the idea from their posts.
Best wishes
Min
Wow! Thanks for your very detailed response!
Ok I love love love AAS but if he's a natural speller then if it were me I'd take his misspellings from his writing and enter them at Spelling City and let him play games there. Nice and easy and simple and FREE.Let me reiterate that I LOVE AAS but sometimes there just has to be a compromise :001_smile:
I hear ya! :001_smile: I pulled out level 3 today and was looking at it (this would be the level she is in), and she could spell every random word I picked out! She keeps telling me it's too easy. Does anyone know when it gets harder? If I continue on with AAS, is there a way to fly through a level if they already know how to spell all the words?
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I'm experimenting at present with recording the AAS lesson onto an MP3 and having the child work through it on an MP3 player. They've done a couple of lessons each and so far so good. It hasn't saved *me* any time, lol, but I can do it at my convenience, and then each kid can do so as well. I'm aiming at them doing it in the car.
Min
I would love to hear more about this idea as well!
Horizons Math for K.......my dd is not getting it!
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Thank you, guys!
Thank you, Boscopup! That information was awesome (on topics to cover in K)!
I didn't realize that Singapore had a K math program. I might have to check it out!
I had thought of using Abeka this year until we make the switch to CLE. The samples looked similar to Horizons, but it's good to hear from you guys that it's not quite as advanced as Horizons.
I thought about doing that, but was scared it might be too advanced for her. Maybe I'm wrong. It is something to think about. Should she be expected in K to learn all of the math facts that are in CLE 100 level?