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    What would you do....Abeka or OPGTR?

    in K-8 Curriculum Board

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    I used Abeka to teach dd10 to read. She has a very strong foundation, but I decided to use OPGTR to teach ds7 and dd5 to read this past year. Mainly because it was all in one book and very open and go.

     

    I am now second guessing myself and wondering if I should switch back to Abeka for this school year. My ds7 is on lesson 126 and my dd5 is on lesson 87 in OPG. I just don't feel like they are as far along as dd10 was at this point. The one thing I miss about Abeka is all the built in review. It was a lot of drilling with charts, but it worked.

     

    What do you guys think? Can you decide for me? Ha! J/K! Decisions, decisions!!

    How does CLE LA compare to R&S?

    in K-8 Curriculum Board

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    Thanks for all your replies! I didn't realize I had so many.

     

    My friend and I compared scope and sequence recently, and I find it hard to believe you'd need to go back in CLE. There were things my friend's child hadn't learned yet in CLE and didn't see coming ahead for a long while in 400 level that R&S taught in 3rd. R&S seemed more thorough to me.

     

    Are you doing the oral review in the TM?

     

    I looked over the scope and sequence of CLE, and there are definitely some things (adjectives) that we have not covered this year. It doesn't look like I would have to go back as far as I thought though. It looks like I could start in the middle of level 400 and maybe order the 300 level LU that first covers adjectives. My dd has not learned how to diagram adjectives yet. I don't think CLE is more rigorous. I just think they cover things at different times. We are doing the oral drill, but there are definitely some days that we skip it.

     

    I wouldn't be surprised. I have looked at both of thier scope and sequence and the cover much of the same material but at different times. I have not used either of those levels yet. Currently we use CLE LA 1 and I recently ordered R&S English 2. In LA1 my son is learning about prefixes and suffixes, contractions,synonyms and a few other things that I don't see mentioned in the English 2 TM of R&S. That leads me to assume those things will not be covered until later grades. But R&S goes more in depth with each unit than CLE with its sprial approach. Its really hard to give advice here. Why are you looking to change?

     

    At this point I think I am going to stick with R&S. I really like it and think it's extremely thorough (my dd doesn't like it and would much prefer a workbook approach). We use CLE for math and I absolutely love it! I think I thought that if I love CLE math that I would love CLE LA just as much. I just love their math! I love the built in review. That was my main reason for thinking about switching.

    I haven't used CLE LA so I can't help with placement but ...

     

    Have you been using the Oral Review each day? That is integral to R&S imho and only takes a few minutes at the start of a lesson. I think Rod & Staff is Super Thorough and has a lot of review. Now, if it's the workbook approach that you want I'd be curious as to why? Do you have a kiddo that prefers those? How are you implementing R&S?

     

    Rod & Staff has a booklet of worksheets that correspond with some lessons and offer review. It's nice.

     

    CLE mixes in all LA subjects such as spelling, writing, penmanship, and grammar. Is that what you're looking for? R&S English is grammar and composition.

     

    My dd would much prefer a workbook approach.

     

    This is how I implement R&S:

    -Oral review (on most days)

    -Read lesson with daughter

    -Do oral drill together

    -Assign some work for my dd (usually odds or evens). If there is a worksheet, she does that instead of the written practice.

     

    I would love to hear how you guys implement R&S. Do you read the lesson with your dc or do you present the lesson like they do in the TM?

    So....how do you review with OPGTR

    in K-8 Curriculum Board

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    I keep a piece of paper (just a blank piece of printer paper) in the book as a bookmark and take notes on what we do every day. I write the date, the lessons we did and then "label" them- I put a line under a lesson they did okay on, circle a lesson they struggled with and then box the new lesson.

     

    It ends up looking like this:

    5/9- 51, 42, 61. 51 may have a line under it, 42 is circled and 61 has a box. Not much writing.

     

    The next day when I sit down with them, I look back over the last two weeks and pick three lessons: one they've struggled with (the circled one,) then one they've mastered, to rebuild confidence, and then I add the next new one on the list- in the above example, that would be 62.

     

    I know that sounds complicated, but it's really not. ;)

     

    This helps me as I tend to fly through books without remembering to review. If I look back and see lots of lessons circled, or lessons that used to be underlined being circled the next time we do them, then I know it's time to stop with the new lessons and just review for a few days.

     

    Not sure if that helps, but it's been the best and most easily contained method for me, as i have two kids going through the book at the same time. If I write down what they're doing every day, and how they're doing, then I don't have to try to remember. But it's not some super complicated spreadsheet or database, which i tend to create sometimes.

     

    Wow!! Thank you so much! That helps a lot! I appreciate you taking the time to type all of that out. I'm going to try it. :)

    Search engine

    in K-8 Curriculum Board

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    I'm having trouble searching the boards. When I type in CLE LA, nothing comes up. I also wanted to search for threads comparing CLE LA to R&S, and I can't get it to work. Are there any tricks to this?

    How does CLE LA compare to R&S?

    in K-8 Curriculum Board

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    I was just wondering how CLE LA compares to R&S? I was looking for something that has a little bit more review built in and that has a workbook. We are on lesson 70 in R&S 4 and it looks like I would have to go all the way back to CLE 400 or possibly CLE 300. Yikes! How would I know where to start?

    Multiplication facts and xtra math

    in K-8 Curriculum Board

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    My 4th grader uses xtramath to drill math facts. The problem is she has not moved on from addition and subtraction. Is there any way to make it include multiplication facts? Or is there anything else I can use for multiplication? She has been skip counting in her head to get the answers. :tongue_smilie:

    Megawords....question about pre-test and word lists

    in K-8 Curriculum Board

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    First, I would do this level anyway. You need to train the ear.

     

    1 You read through the list. Pay attention to the words, not as evident in the first list, which is compound words. Ask your student to read the list and correct them as they read.

     

    2 Choose a few random words for spelling to see if you need to focus on a certain structure for a sound. Five words - record the results for both reading and spelling. Choose spelling words that have an * beside it. I usually chose 15 to 20 words.

     

    3 Complete the exercises. Be very vocal. These are not silent exercises. Say the words aloud, work with the words aloud, and always do the sound dictations (remember a sound can almost always be spelled more than one way).

     

    4 Ask for a selection of words to be read to you. I required the entire list to be read with no more than 5 words missed. Practice reading the list periodically through the 1-2 week study.

     

    5 I tested by giving 10 words from that list to spell and 10 different words to read. Record your results. If at any point you do not meet 90 percent, repeat the lesson rules, reading, and testing.

     

    Thank you so much!!! That is very helpful! How long did it take you to complete 1 section? About 1 or 2 weeks?

    Megawords....question about pre-test and word lists

    in K-8 Curriculum Board

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    I ordered Megawords Level 1 for my 4th grader. I did the pretest and she only misspelled one word on the entire test. Do I still do level 1? I don't mind doing it to make sure she has the rules down. I was just a little confused.

     

    I'm also a little confused on what words you use for spelling? Do you just pick and choose from the word list? Or do you only use the ones with the * by it.

     

    Thank you so much!!

    It's me again....questions about spelling

    in K-8 Curriculum Board

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    Less so than AAS. It has workbooks you can use, and then you'd still need to dictate some words and sentences and such. I'm not currently using the workbook, so I just dictate each day at the white board. Still quicker than AAS was for us. Today we did some work with AAS-like tiles for syllabication, so that was more like an AAS lesson, but if you're using the workbook, you'd do the syllabication work in there, which wouldn't require teacher.

     

    You were so quick to respond!! Thank you! I might have to check it out!

    It's me again....questions about spelling

    in K-8 Curriculum Board

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    Have you thought about scheduling AAS differently? I know they typically recommend doing 4-5 session a week. We just do 2 sessions of about 30 minutes, which allows us to complete one lesson a week. We alternate spelling with grammar.

     

    I had not thought of that! We do Classical Conversations on Tuesdays, so that pretty much counts for school that day. We do R&S for grammar 4 days a week. I haven't calculated it, but could I just do R&S 3 days a week and finish the book? I guess I need to look at it.

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