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Agstefko and prissygirls:
Thank you so much for this post!! I am not yet sure if my dd has this, but I am 100% certain I do...and I never would have known or even thought anything was "wrong" with me had I not seen your posts.
Now, what I'm trying to figure out is how to treat it. You have both indicated it's easy to treat, but so far, everything I've read says the stuff to the contrary and suggests products that cost hundreds of dollars. Other than adding probiotics (don't know if probiotic yogurt is sufficient?), what else did you do? I will continue researching it online and will ask my doctor also, but if you can tell me what you did, that would help! (I'm sure doctors just love it when patients come in and say..."I was reading on the internet that.....") :lol:
As for my dd, I gave her the test this morning and I think it's possible that she's positive, but I want to try it again tomorrow morning to be sure.
I am considering ALL of the advice above and will be also trying an elimination diet for her.
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If you use or have used Logic of English Essentials, what do you like about it? What do you dislike about it?
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Thank you all for the input. Some of these things I have never heard of, so it is very helpful!
Ellie, I agree and would prefer to find out what's causing the aches before resorting to meds that may bring relief, but mask the real issue.
Harriet, the GI testing sounds like a good idea, but how scary/painful is that for a child? How do they do it, I guess is what I'm wondering.
To all of you who have taken your children off dairy for a period of time (or on limited dairy), I was curious what you use to replace the calcium they miss from milk. My instincts tell me to try the elimination diets and then maybe see a GI pediatrician and/or allergist.
Can anyone suggest any good resources for learning more about gluten, and figuring out what foods have them and what foods don't. Or even recommended diets for children with gluten allergies?
Thank you everyone!! :wub: Sending you hugs!
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This is all such great information and so helpful.
Katilac, thank you so much for recommending Living Memory. I had never heard of it and it looks very interesting. I read the sample pages from the book and he makes so many astute points, that I'm really sold on memorization overall.
MeganW, you make a lot of good points...and I appreciate the reminder of all the extra stuff that goes on at CC that is really valuable (presentation time, art, music, etc.). I think you're right about visiting the different campuses because I have visited 5 campuses in 2 different states and each had it's own unique characteristics. I would be right where you are...somewhere in the middle between the fundamentalists and the hippies. :)
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My 6 yr old daughter has always had tummy aches off and on. Doctors have not been concerned about it in the past, but now it has gotten to where it's every day. She wakes up with it many mornings and has it throughout the day, before and after meals, and other times. The doctor did an xray and showed no blockages. We also did a blood test to look for gluten allergy, crohns disease, etc and it came back negative for those. The doctor wants us to try prescription prevacid for 2-4 weeks, thinking it may be acid or reflux. My daughter is a bit of a worrier so I wonder if it's a nervous tummy. There's no nausea, just ache.
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Kathie, I actually am inquiring about tutoring. I would love the help with tuition...I just found out it will actually be $925 for 2 kids. Yikes! Do you find that tutoring takes up a lot more of your time during the week than if you weren't tutoring?
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Ok, I'm actually glad to hear what I'm hearing so far. My feeling and inclination has always been to, as Megan stated above, include CC memory work as a separate subject called "Memory Work," but still go through my own History and Science curricula as much as possible, while putting the primary focus on Language Arts and Math. I just re-read the grammar section in WTM and one of my big take-aways was that Reading, Spelling, Grammar, Writing and Math should always be the priority in the grammar years. And if you're able to work in some history and science too, great.
So I guess that leads me to a different question (maybe I need a new thread?). If I'm just using the CC memory work as a supplement or as its own "subject" (for lack of better word), then there shouldn't be any reason I couldn't just incorporate CC into what we do at home...and not join a CC community, right? I would really (emphasis on reeeeaaallly) need to justify spending $700-800 per year to enroll my 2 girls. And because we have a really terrific homeschooling group that we are active with, we don't necessarily need it for the social aspect (yes, it's a great bonus, but maybe not $800 worth?). And between friends who participate in CC, and forums like these (and all the amazing blogs), I can get the CC support I need. Other than having that accountability to keep me on track and moving forward, I'm not sure enrolling is justified (for ME personally).
I have several related questions, so I may post new threads. But I want to keep hearing feedback on all this...especially my original question.
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thegirlwhopaintedtrees,
What is your "chosen curricula"? I'm curious what you ended up using instead and that seems to be working for you. Also, what age was your daughter when she was was in CC and was constantly asking for more information? Thanks!
jannylynn,
thanks for the info. The part about your BF's kids who are now in Challenge and got more out of the CC memory work than their chosen currculum...that's very convincing.
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Is the Classical Conversations memory work (specifically Foundations program) enough for grammar stage kids?
I have been going back and forth on this issue for quite some time and need some help being 100% convinced. Yes, I want proof, so to speak. Is it truly effective to have them just memorize all of this information, without much context or additional info? Many people say that if you do CC you don't need to do anything else. Others add in some additional language arts, math, and maybe science.
As of right now, instead of CC, I am prepared to use a full Language Arts program (either Phonics Road to Spelling and Reading or Logic of English, Essentials), a History program (History Odyssey along with SOTW), a math program (combination of Singapore & Math Mammoth until I figure out which I like better), a science program (REAL Science Odyssey), and Art (which we will add in as we're able). I have all of this curricula ready to go. I've spent hours and hours selecting them.
But I keep coming back to CC. And the idea that maybe all that curricula is not the best use of their brains at this stage. Maybe I really just need to pack in as many facts ("pegs") as possible right now without them needing (or wanting) to understand it right now. I know that they love memorization and excel at it at this age.
I guess I want to be 100% sure that the memorization is enough and that it will be of more help to them when they're older (logic and rhetoric stages) than fleshing everything out at this young age.
Sorry so long. Can you help?
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Now that I've done it myself, I tend to agree that going through the process of making the "list" or "outline" myself is most beneficial. I just created my own quick reference for just one year and it really helped me to clear out all the clutter in my mind and to re-focus on the big picture. :001_smile:
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Aaaaah...you're right. I was just assuming that it would only be shared among people who already own the book...but, of course, there's no way to control that. I wasn't even thinking of that. (You mean not everyone owns this book??? LOL!!)
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We have recently started using Phonics Road Level 1, and while we're not that far into it, I am having some hesitation about whether or not to continue with it and the Spalding method in general.
So, can anyone tell me what the reason is that the 70 common phongrams listed in the Spalding method do not include the long e sound for "y" or the sound for "u" that is heard in words like "rule" or "tune"? I have also been really drawn to Denise Eide's program, The Logic of English, and in looking at her phonogram list, she includes those sounds. Those sounds seem to me like commonly used sounds...and I haven't seen an explanation yet for why this is and because Denise's method makes more sense to me, personally, I'm thinking about switching.
Any thoughts? Is anyone using The Logic of English and can you give any feedback on how you like it? I would most likely go straight to the Essentials level and not use the Foundations level.
Thanks!
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This is EXACTLY what I was looking for! This is very helpful...thank you!! (I love this forum.) :hurray:
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I am trying to find a list of all the books that Tapestry of Grace uses or recommends for the first year / Level 1 (the Ancients), specifically for the Lower and Upper Grammar Students.
Can anyone provide this or tell me where I can find it? I tried to find it on the TOG website with no luck.
Thanks in advance!!
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BUCOLIC, Thank you, thank you, thank you for sharing your spreadsheet!!!!!! This is so helpful and saves us sooo much time. It also inspires me to make up similar spreadsheets for other subjects.
Can't thank you enough for sharing! :)
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Has anyone doing CC purchased the latest Foundations curriculum book (4th edition)? Are there major changes from the previous addition?
I took advantage of the really discounted price on the Third Edition ($15 as opposed to $60 for the Fourth Edition) and it's working just fine. CC puts together a list of all the changes, and I just printed it off and updated my book...I actually cut out the new information and taped into my book over top of the old information. Works perfectly!!
Most of the changes are not major. In some cases, it's just a matter of flip-flopping the info between two weeks. Piece of cake. Works for me!
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I really like the CC program, but how it's executed varies from community to community. (My experience was with the Foundations program because my children are young.) We "sampled" 4 different communities in 2 different states before joining one for a semester and here are some things we learned from our experience:
1) The tutor your child ends up with makes a big difference in the program. Tutors are simply homeschooling parents who have kids enrolled in the program, and who volunteer to tutor. Yes, they receive some of that $325 (I think 40% goes to the Director and 60% is divided among the tutors) as compensation, but it's not the same thing as hiring professional tutors. And, I don't mean this to be mean at all, but we all have our strengths and weaknesses, and not everyone is cut out to be teaching/tutoring a group. Just because you're great one-on-one with your own kids does not automatically mean you will be effective in front of a group of 8 or more kids that are not all your own. And, personally, if I'm paying that kind of money (times 2 for 2 kids) then I want the tutor to be good at what she's doing. Often times, especially in smaller communities, the tutor just ends up being whomever is willing to step up and give it a try. Don't get me wrong...in a co-op where the cost is much much lower, I'm ok with this. But not when I'm spending $1000. A couple we had were not good, a couple were ok, and one was just terrific!
2) The communities vary on how much they make it church-like. I understand it's a Christian organization and that's great. But just understand that there's a lot of variance in how different groups apply that. In one group, we opened with 30 minutes of prayer, singing hymns and Bible verse recitation. In another group, we simply opened with a prayer, announcements, pledge, etc. In one group I was uncomfortable with how the tutor 'made' all the children repeat after her something about how evolution is wrong and creationism is right (not those words, just that idea). This was not part of the course...it was just her idea to insert it. It felt like brainwashing more so than teaching a love for God.
3) While there is not an "official" CC song for every subject for every week (all the history memory work has a song to go with it, all the timeline stuff, some of the other subjects occasionally)-- there ARE songs out there for every single piece of memory work...if you take the extra step of looking for it on CCOnline. My kids can learn anything if it's put to song. Without a song, trying to get a 4 and 5 year old to memorize the seven classifications of living things is more challenging. :) So, if you have a tutor that goes that extra mile and provide a song for everything...great! If not, you may want to subscribe to CCOnline and find one yourself. (Other CC members make up their own songs and put them online to share...it's WONDERFUL!!)
That's my input in a nutshell. Overall, I think it's a fantastic program and there is nothing else like it that I can find. But it is a program that can very easily be done at home without being a part of a group. That's what we do now, because cost was a major factor for us.
I hope that helps. Best of luck!!
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Major bummer! I just missed it by one day! :crying:
Is anyone willing or able to share it with me (if that's allowed)? My email is hjordan423@gmail.com if someone is able to email me a copy. We just started this book and were looking for a good lapbook to go with it.
Thanks so much!!
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I think I'll print out that quote "It's not a race, it's an education" and hang it on my fridge. Love it. Thank you for reminding me. :)
sleeplessnights...I like your routine as well and writing the names in the books. I think we will adopt that tradition too. I have always wanted to be one of those people who "puts a kettle on" and has tea in the afternoon. Don't know why. Just like the romantic idea of it.
By the way, instead of doing a "reading lesson" today we just played Sight Word Bingo and she loved it!
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I love the idea of playing games...my girls LOVE to play games. So thank you for the suggested sites! I will also start letting them do more on the computer...like starfall, etc. We did a trial of readingeggs and they loved it, but I just haven't subscribed.
I think part of it is just laziness on dd's part because even when I just read a book to her and ask her to read with me or just read a single word that I know she knows, she gets whiny and frustrated and says, "No, just you read it."
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So much good advice. Thank you everyone for your input!
walkermamaof4: What are the leap videos?? I have never heard of this but I am intrigued!
Regarding what programs we're using...well, because I feel like reading and phonics is the foundation for all learning, I have put a tremendous amount of pressure on myself to pick the "perfect" reading/phonics program. For that reason, I have bought several different books/programs including:
1. OPGTR -- even though this is not my favorite delivery method, this is the one we are currently using because we are such huge fans of WTM. The primary reason for using this one is that I have complete faith that OPGTR is a thorough and comprehensive phonics program, and, again, I don't want to miss teaching anything.
2. The Reading Lesson -- I really like this format...it's very simple and clean - not a lot of busy text all over the page...minimal text per page and very large font to make it super easy for a new reader to follow. I was afraid this one wasn't comprehensive enough. But dd liked this format better too. (I know, duh, go back to the one she liked, right?)
3. Reading Made Easy -- I like the way they use different fonts, colors, etc. to help you know how to read specific letters and letter combinations
4. Saxon Phonics I -- I like this...but will take much longer to do each lesson than our standard 15-20 minutes. I guess that's why this is really a 1st grade program.
5. BJU Kindergarten Beginnings with Phonics for K5 -- multi-faceted; seems fun, but maybe too complex for homeschool (vs. classroom).
6. Progressive Phonics online. I really like this program, but sometimes feel like dd is guessing the words instead of reading them because there's a picture with each tiny story that shows what's happening.
Math -- RightStart A and Life of Fred
Handwriting -- HWOT
We are also using Classical Conversations for memory work.
I try to spend 10-20 minutes per day each on reading and math, 10-15 on handwriting, then add in history reading and memory work when able.
We do listen to audio books when we can, and I read aloud to her a lot. She loves, loves, loves to hear stories and has great comprehension.
[This was helpful writing all this out. I had several "duh" moments while thinking through it all...and maybe I just need to not worry about it too much!]
Thank you everyone!!
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I don't know what to do. I don't think she really hates it, but my kindergartner does not want to do school most of the time. I'm afraid if I really force it she will just hate it more. But, obviously, not doing school is not an option. I try to make it interesting, brief and interactive. Sometimes she really enjoys it. And I try to remind her that she actually does like it. But sometimes I just can't get her to participate. I don't want school to be like a punishment.
The biggest hang-up for us is reading. She is doing very well with reading and is so proud of herself when she completes a lesson or reads on her own. But to get her started each day is like pulling teeth.
I want her to have a love of learning and reading. And she LOVES to be read to.
Any tips on getting her to do her reading lessons? Thanks!!
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Thanks for all the great info! I have already put both of the Love & Logic books on hold at my local library. Can't wait to read them. :)
I feel like lately I am doing a lot more "barking" at my children - and it's making me crazy. I don't want to be that mom. But taking them to public places lately (library, stores, etc.) has been humiliating. They run all over the place and won't listen to me telling them to stop and stay by my side.
The advice I've gotten on that is that I should just drop everything (even a cart full of groceries), pick them up and leave the store immediately. Well, that is so much easier said than done. I don't go shopping for pleasure, so if I'm there it's because I have to be -- and the thought of starting all over at another time is just too much. I just want to press on, get it done and over with, and then leave. And shopping without them is not usually an option.
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Please help by sharing some of your best discipline tricks that have worked on children ages 3-5.
We have a "beads" system where the girls get beads to add to their pipe cleaner "chain" for making certain good choices. They have to have a certain number of beads for various privileges.
I think it works fairly well for my 5 year old, but I don't think my 3 year old really makes the connection. (This is not the only thing we do -- just one thing.)
What works for you??? Thanks!
Chronic tummy ache
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Agstefko and prissygirls:
Thank you so much for this post!! I am not yet sure if my dd has this, but I am 100% certain I do...and I never would have known or even thought anything was "wrong" with me had I not seen your posts.
Now, what I'm trying to figure out is how to treat it. You have both indicated it's easy to treat, but so far, everything I've read says stuff to the contrary and suggests products that cost hundreds of dollars. Other than adding probiotics (don't know if probiotic yogurt is sufficient?), what else did you do? I will continue researching it online and will ask my doctor also, but if you can tell me what you did, that would help! (I'm sure doctors just love it when patients come in and say..."I was reading on the internet that.....") :bigear:
As for my dd, I gave her the test this morning and I think it's possible that she's positive, but I want to try it again tomorrow morning to be sure.
I am considering ALL of the advice above and will be also trying an elimination diet for her.