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  1. Ethnicity? No. Membership and activism for a group such as La Raza? Yes, depending on the case. In the case I assume you are referring to, it is unclear if there is a conflict of interest. La Raza is a very progressive pro-illegal immigration group, and the judge in question has been very involved with some of their work.
  2. When my husband was in graduate school for ChemE 12 years ago, he had a classmate from China, and he and his wife were also our neighbors in married student housing. He was getting his PhD. When they first arrived they were terribly home sick and couldn't wait to get back. After two years, they were desperate to find a way to stay. They had had a baby, and it had given them the desire to stay in the U.S. and have more. At least that's what they told us. Forced abortions happen everyday in China, right up to 40 weeks. I don't care how "pragmatic" the thinking behind the one child policy is, coercing a woman into a partial birth abortion is barbaric.
  3. The links are from google books, which doesn't have the same content in every country. I thought I'd put down the page numbers in the actual books so our friends outside the US can look up the passages themselves. The passage with the information about the poetry notebook starts on pg. 188 of Educating the Child at Home, and the passage about using composition notebooks starts on page 186 of Educating the Child at Home. HTH!
  4. Thank you, I downloaded the pdf you linked in the other thread and I'm excited to read it.
  5. I just had the idea to compile a list for my own reference of simple folk tales and fairy tales that are easy to improvise an then try to incorporate them into our Morning time, so I thought I'd share what I came up with off the top of my head: Jack and the Beanstalk The Gingerbread Man The Elves and the Shoemaker Chicken Little The Brave Little Tailor Cinderella
  6. I am not a very good story teller either. All I can muster when my children ask for a story are The Three Little Pigs, Little Red Riding Hood, and The Little Red Hen. I stick to short repetitive stories, I don't have the "gift of the gab." We listen to a lot of fairy tales as audio books, and as for nursery rhymes we have a copy of "The Real Mother Goose" my kids love to hear.
  7. And I see this ability to take from CM what works for you and your teaching style and then apply it to the needs of your family as a very lovely thing :).
  8. Very interesting, it reminds me of formal recitation. I have been inspired to try and implement more formal recitation into our day by reading through MP materials, this has given me a new impetus. Your comment about the printing press reminded me of an anecdote in St. Augustine's Confessions about St. Ambrose reading silently to himself in his cell. This was odd, because in ancient times books were rare and so most of the time you would go and listen to book readings in large groups rather then actually read them yourself. But when studying texts individually, people would read aloud to aid their memories, for books had to be memorized and then passed along. But Ambrose chose to occasionally read silently by himself in his room to gain some peace and quiet without others listening in, and he was brilliant enough to learn the material without reading out loud. That's not really on topic, but it is an interesting tidbit your comment reminded me of. ETA: I was just thinking, you hear so much about "auditory" and "visual" and other types of learners, but you never hear about learning through speaking as a learning style. Group discussions maybe, but not recitation. It seems as though as a learning style it would be universal, who doesn't memorize something by repeating it aloud as a verse or a song? I'm also reminded of how pupils used to show their teachers that they had mastered content by "reciting their lessons," and how schools used to have recitation competitions where students would memorize and recite epic poems, Shakespeare, important speeches, etc. I suppose we could call this "oratory" learning :).
  9. This is why I am so confused by those who don't want CM labelled as classical. I don't really care about the labels, I just see just how similiar to neo-classical approaches CM is. When I read SWB, LCC, Climbing Parnasuus, Laura Berquist, etc. the similiarities always seem to outnumber the differences. To me they are all classical with a different emphasis. And so labeling CM as a way to do classical doesn't bother me at all. But, from what I've observed, I think that the folks out there who are the most adamant about NOT labeling CM as classical are the so called CM "purists." I could be wrong about that, it is just an observation from various blogs I've read. So it seems that there are homeschoolers in both camps, classical and CM, who don't want to have to claim the other side ;).
  10. Two of my grandparents were first generation Americans. They grew up speaking other languages besides English.Three of my husbands grandparents were first generation Americans and grew up speaking German, Dutch, and Norwegian respectively. My father was taught German when he was a boy by his grandfather, and they spoke it together at home. I think that in the time Lynch was writing, it was not always necessary to study a foreign language during academic time as many Catholics were immigrants or the children of immigrants. And European culture was most definately a part of the home lives of our grandparents and our parents. I attended Scotch-Irish festivals growing up, and one of the largest Scandinavian cultural festivals in North America was held every fall in my hometown. I still eat lefse every Christmas, my MIL sends me some every year. Oktoberfest is also a popular event in many a small town to this day. We grew up listening to irish music and listening to Irish fairy tales. My grandmother was born in the 1920's, and she is definately Irish-Catholic first, American second. But, my grandparents were and are also very patriotic. They were taught American culture of the time at school, and education for their children was the top priority for most of the immigrants. The first generation of immigrants in the early 20th century wanted to preserve the traditions of the old country, but they also wanted their children to be educated as Americans. And so I agree that this is where ELF is coming from with the selection of Hiawatha. The children of the Catholic immigrants needed to study English, and they also needed to learn what it meant, at that time, to be American.
  11. Yes, I know what the definition of a "liberal education" or "liberal arts" edcuation is, I just don't think that it is a specific enough label for what most CM homeschoolers are doing and it doesn't speak to how they want to be identified. CM is a liberal education, but it is also a specific set of methods used to acheive a liberal education. So that is one possible explanation as to why CMers don't call themselves "liberal educators," it is too broad a category. It is the same reason Classical educators don't call themselves "liberal educators," because they are using classical methods to achieve a liberal education and so they label themselves appropriately. CM has many subgroups, but each one is very specific. My purpose to describe these various sub-groups and their links to CM, to describe how and why they identify with CM and explain why they prefer certain labels. While some people may object to the word "liberal" because of it's modern political connotations, as I said above, I don't see this is the reason it has fallen out of use with homeschoolers. I also think that the term "classical" has more resonance with people today than "liberal education" does, especially since the concept of a "liberal arts" education has been so watered down by the education establishment, and that is why it is used. This is why I think you hear CM compared with "classical" models and not with "liberal education" models or "liberal arts" models. I also agree with the pp that it is frustrating that all the different "flavors" and interpretations of CM by modern homeschoolers has made it so hard for some people to understand CM, especially since CM's own writings are quite clear.
  12. I think it has more to do with the fact that there are so many interpretations and "flavors" of CM, just as with the label "classical." These styles can vary wildly based on the personalities of those involved. Many of us consider ourselves classical educators and truly do see similiarities between CM and classical, and so we can consider ourselves classical CMers. Given the fact that there are so many different versions of classical, this isn't hard to understand. For me, what I took away from CM's writings was very similiar to what Tibbie describes, and it seemed to fit in with the neo-classical approaches I had researched such as LCC, DYOCC, WTM, Mortimer Adler, etc. They all seemed to be different roads leading to the same destination, with a few of the same pit stops along the way. But, the fact that I lean more towards the classical methods in general may be why I see CM in this light. I wouldn't call my approach "liberal" because it is more of an eccletic classical approach, and I'm really not implementing a "liberal arts" approach either. Other people who claim to implement CM seem to almost throw out the aspects I find so simliar to neo-classical methods, and focus on certain aspects of CM's methods over others. Think unschoolers who read a lot of living books. They see CM as truly unique, and don't want to use any other labels, or they are the types who don't want to use labels at all. There are those whose main take away is using living books for as many subjects as possible, even in subjects where CM herself would have used a more formal program, such as grammar or Latin, and then try to update the approach by using modern literature selections. This approach isn't really "liberal." Think Sonlight with some CM style nature study thrown in. There are also those who, IMHO, treat CM almost like a guru. They study her every word and try to duplicate her methods and schedules exactly. They wouldn't want any other label besides CM, they are "purists" so to speak. Some CM homeschoolers may avoid the label "liberal" for ideological reasons, but I don't really think it is a concious decision for most CM enthusiasts. As I mentioned, I am "ecclectic." CM appeals to me, aspects of the Circe approach appeal to me, WTM and LCC both had some great take aways that spoke to me. I see many different flavors of CM out there, and even more flavors of classical. FInding the similiarties between the different approaches helps me focus and clarify what I want to accomplish in my own school. Maybe this means I am intellectually shallow, but I take what I like and leave the rest.
  13. That was my first thought as well. You need a lawyer, now.
  14. Starfall.com and Easy Peasy for phonics, if you don't mind screen time. We are also big fans of HWT and Rod and Staff for preschool. Before Five in a Row has great picture book suggestions and craft ideas.
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