I don't think I can get dh on board. 😢

My county is at 52/100k per day with a little over 10% positivity. My anti-vax branch of the family has multiple people sick. My aunt's brother died last night and their mother is not expected to make it through tonight. My anti-vax mil and step fil are supposed to come for Thanksgiving from out of state. I want to tell them to stay home, but I know they will just say they want to see us and it's in God's hands. I'm keep going back and forth between being sad and angry.

There is not any great data. This recent study was done though. Prior infection does reduce the risk of breakthrough BUT the risk reduction is greatest in people who were infected with a longer period between infection and vaccination. I would get a booster now if I were your friend, but I'd do the smaller Pfizer dose rather than the moderna. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2

I'm not sure how relevant it is to what's happening by you, but my county seat implemented a mask mandate and the county next to us didn't. The schools for both counties did have mandates. The covid cautious from the non-mandate county made a point to go do their errands in the county with a mandate and the covid minimizers in the mandated-county made a point to do their errands (changing churches too!) in the non-mandated county. Rates are nearly identical in the counties, but I think the non mandate county is where most out-of-home transmission is occurring but the cases are reported in the county of residence.

I definitely don't think driving risk is the same as the risk of something bad happening if someone does catch covid. But when you take the massive risk reduction of full vaccination plus a booster and layer it over a vaccinated friend and layer that over the vaccinated plus infected husband and layer that over being outdoors and layer that over a mask, I do think the overall risk to her contracting covid in this particular get-together is getting close to the risk of driving. And then even if she does contract it, everyone she lives with is vaccinated and it sounds like she distances and masks in all other situations so the risk of infecting someone else is exceedingly low. The risk will never be gone because covid is is here to stay. Unfortunately, we missed our opportunity to crush it. I didn't mean to sound like a covid-minimizer by my choice of analogy or to imply that anyone is dumb. I'm just trying to put the risk in context of other things we are more accustomed to living with because the covid risk from this will probably not be substantially lower than it would be to her now for many years.

Are you worried about the risk of getting in a car accident on your way to the meet up? Or that your house will be broken into while you're away? If not, then I don't think you should be worried about the risk of the meet up itself considering his vax status and being outside. Add a high quality mask and I think you've reduced the risk to infintessimal.

I don't think it could be from the wife. Though it's possible for incubation to be longer, she was testing every day. If she was t turning the rest positive, it's pretty unlikely she was shedding enough virus to infect him. It would be different if she hadn't been testing daily.

I think your chances of transmitting covid to them with your shot background is probably lower than the chances of transmitting some other communicable disease. Personally, I wouldn't bother. Now that I've been recently boosted I only wear a mask for other people's psychological comfort. If I thought it was irritating the group I'd just skip it.

Not here, but Israel is requiring it for their 12+ year olds to be considered fully vaccinated. Hopefully we can use their data to inform our choices. For 18+ the myocarditis rate is lower than the second shot but higher than the first. https://blogs.shu.edu/thediplomaticenvoy/2021/10/12/israel-to-require-booster-shots-for-fully-vaccinated-individuals/

I had a pair of Sorels from late high school until last year, so about 20 years. I replaced them with another pair in pull on style. I don't find them narrow. In other brands I often find myself on the fence between regular and wide sizes, so I don't think I have narrow feet.

Sort of tangential, but this seems like the most appropriate place: Just got back from our well-child. I expected pedi to give ds8 a flu shot, but instead she advised us to wait 3 weeks after the second covid shot. I told her we were probably going to delay the second shot so she said just get flu shot in between. I guess the official stance of getting them together is because they don't want people delaying covid shots and a disturbing percentage won't return for the other shot. Where the luxury exists to space them without worry that patients won't get the other shot, she says it's preferable to space.

Just to update on DS8- I gave him some Tylenol yesterday and he hasn't had any complaints since. When asked, he said his arm was sore, but it wasn't enough to stop him from climbing a tree and wrestling with his brother.

Don't go. We are your reality check. It's a physically unsafe environment, but it's even more unsafe emotionally. The whole thing is super toxic, and I'm impressed at the forgiveness and grace you've already shown. But being a good person doesn't mean you have to let people abuse you or play Russian Roulette with your kids to prove your love.

Would they be willing to do a binax test the morning of the gathering? If that is negative and you run a couple air purifiers I would feel pretty good about it. My mil and stepfil are anti vax too. I want to ask them to do a binax before they come for Thanksgiving but I'm afraid dh will be too embarrassed to ask, ugh. I wouldn't worry about quarantining to protect them. Their risk is so much higher everywhere else, and they refuse to take reasonable measures to protect themselves-their choice.

No, but he can get it from the doctor off label now that there is full approval for 16+.

Nm. I can't read.

DD10 was vaccinated yesterday morning. She has just a bit of tenderness at the injection site and said she felt a little tired this morning, but it's Monday after a time change so who knows? By lunch she was her usual energetic self. DS8 got his this morning and is now complaining of a headache. This child has never had a headache in his life. Fingers crossed that this isn't a bad omen for the next 48 hours.

A longer interval is fine and in some cases preferable. Don't delay the first shot just to get the second shot done at 3 weeks instead of 4.

Yes, it's a great way to reach the disadvantaged kids for us. The nearby major metro just announced pediatric 5-11 clinics at a bunch of schools. They have one day at each school and then cycle back after three weeks for the second shot.

I think they are going that fast. Walgreens and CVS both had some at least for awhile, but now show up as none available. I'm a little frustrated because Walgreens forced me to make the appointment for our second shot at the same time I scheduled the first. I plan to space our shots more than 3 weeks and have no intention of keeping the second dose appointments that I was forced to schedule. I hope they are not holding back vaccines for it, but I suspect t they are. I will cancel the second appointments as soon as we get back from the first so that it will hopefully open for others.

We have had lots of good luck with zenni, but it sounds like you might be better off going in person. I've been thrilled with lenses from both Wal-Mart and Sam's Club. For Wal-Mart lenses are $49 for SV poly with AR and blue light filter. (I think the blue light thing is a silly gimmick but they just include it in all their kids lenses at no additional charge so whatever). Sam's is bogo plus 20% off for plus members, so $50ish for two complete pairs using value frames with sv poly lenses and AR.

Wrt nosepads, if you have a bridge that is low or wide you'll probably get a better fit with nosepads, but keyhole bridges or "universal fit" might work too. I personally hate nosepads for part-time wear (ie reading glasses) because they ALWAYS get caught in my hair when I inevitably prop the glasses up on my head.

I looked at Walgreens and CVS at 7:48 and the soonest I could find was Sunday, which I booked. On the bright side, this probably means lots of parents are going ASAP. Well, either that or my state is slow on distributing its allotment. I'm going to hope for the former.

I had mine made into a baptismal gown and suit for my kids. I still have those.

I wonder if they'll pull the plug on the under 12s who are getting 50 micrograms. It seems really excessive now that we know Pfizer 10 micrograms is 90% effective. Pfizer says they got essentially the same antibody response with 10, 20, and 30 so they went with the lowest. I'd love to know how Moderna arrived at the 50 number. I don't think it could be longevity since they didn't have long enough, but maybe some sort of bridging with the older cohort.