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5 hours ago, Wheres Toto said:
I keep seeing that Moderna booster is better than Pfizer booster, but that seems inconclusive.
The VE for Moderna is higher but that's after 5 - 9 weeks. The Pfizer is after 10 weeks. They aren't comparing the same type of data.
The Moderna ve at 5-9 weeks is included in the report and is also considerably higher than the Pfizer ve at 5-9 weeks. And remember, this is Moderna booster after primary pfizer. It would be reasonable to assume 3x Moderna might be a bit higher.
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45 minutes ago, Longtime Lurker said:
Huge sigh.
Signed,
the person who had her booster 12 weeks ago 😞
Was it Pfizer? Moderna is holding much better.
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44 minutes ago, AbcdeDooDah said:
DS tested positive on day 7 after a week of exposure to his positive wife. Two negative tests the previous two days before.
Were his tests pcr or lateral flow?
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Some updates from the UK
Page 26 shows booster ve out to 10 weeks. Moderna is still looking respectable. Pfizer is fading fast.
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1 hour ago, KSera said:
I wonder if any of the guidelines that were changed for vaccinated people are going to be changed again, since it clearly doesn’t make sense to use the standard for vaccinated people during Delta now that we’re dealing with omicron. I’m not sure things will catch up in time, though.
I hope so. I don't see how vulnerable people can be kept safe the way it is. They do wear masks, but the circulation is poor and idk how much it really matters with omicron when you are talking about 8 hours. Everywhere is sold out of rapid tests around here. Milwaukee had a test line that went all the way onto the interstate yesterday, so lack of a positive test is sort of a given.
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We have shifted from trying not to get infected to pretty much living with some precautions and focusing on not infecting any vulnerable people. That is partly due to my last kids being fully vaccinated and the inevitability of omicron infection. We are using KF94s in non-eating public places but we are also going to restaurants again. We also went to a Christmas party and a ballet. The kids are playing indoors with friends again. Dh was exposed on Tuesday so our Christmas gathering is going to be delayed. He'll get pcr the day before and then we are using home tests immediately beforehand.
Dh is required to go to work after exposure as long as he is symptom free and hasn't had a positive test. Same for his coworkers, so we can't escape him being exposed no matter how many fun things we skip. Therefore, we aren't skipping fun things.
So far everyone we know who is covid positive is unboosted or boosted less than 5 days before infection. The three people I know who were exposed and recently Moderna-boosted are at 5, 5, and 2 days post exposure with no symptoms or positive RAT. One of the 5 days just got negative pcr this morning.
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1 hour ago, Not_a_Number said:
Is there a paper or something? Where are they getting it? DH was telling me something totally opposite yesterday.
On his Twitter he links this https://t.co/kuZwInO2wj
which seems to base the modeling on the earlier German paper
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.07.21267432v1.full.pdf+html
Dh had lunch with someone today (fully Pfizer vaccinated) who just called to say he was feeling weird after work and took binax, which was pos. Hoping dh's 3 week old Modern a booster holds up, but truthfully I'm not optimistic.
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We also had 2 bags and already ate one without incident. Ugh.
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Dr. Hotez estimates 35% ve against symptomatic infection 3 months post boost. He doesn't say if it's Pfizer or Moderna, but I'm thinking these are people with primary Pfizer and a Pfizer booster because I don't think anywhere was boosting Moderna that early.
https://abc13.com/houston-coronavirus-omicron-variant-in-us-covid-19-symptoms/11362777/
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When my son had his second dose his node under his arm swelled up to the size of a golf ball after about 36 hours. We actually had to fix up a sling of sorts to keep his arm out a bit because it was so tender. Over the next few days its volume seemed to stay the same but it sort of spread out more so it wasn't so delineated. Sounds like that might be the stage you're in now. After about a week It was resolved. We used ice on and off the two days it was most severe. I also gave him ibuprofen. Good luck. I hope you get some relief soon.
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1 minute ago, popmom said:
Yes and no. The Delta wave moved north from Florida. May and June are not our hottest, muggiest months. And our wimpy southern selves are probably much more driven inside during winter because we just can't take the cold. lol
It's just not that simple. If it were, I guess the south would have flu in July and August.
There are other factors that shift things, true. But to say that the weather doesn't matter one bit is just absurd.
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19 minutes ago, popmom said:
That has not mattered one bit in the U.S. Our Delta surge was horrendous, and it started in June. I don't think any COVID variant has cared what season it was.
Things that force people indoors are definitely correlated. In the southern us, it is hot, muggy weather that forces them into the air conditioning. Here in the northern us, we have a definite correlation with when it becomes too cold to gather outside.
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10 hours ago, vonfirmath said:
Ugh. Our flu shots are scheduled. I wonder if we should cancel.
I'm rethinking this too. My 8 yo is scheduled for Wednesday. Everyone else has already had the flu shot so he has a bit of a bubble around him. Plus we have rampant covid in the community, so there is the risk of catching covid while going to get the flu shot. Our hospitals are being crushed though, so it might still be helpful in decreasing the burden on them, idk.
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44 minutes ago, mommyoffive said:
That is so disappointing for parents of under 5s, but I'm glad to see testing is underway for third doses on ages 5-11 and 12-15.
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We are up to 8 cases of myocarditis reported (total, not excess) with 2 million second doses in for ages 5-11. Still looking pretty good.
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@ksera I feel like I'm the only person by me who is concerned.
Our hospitals are already taxed and today we have a near vertical spike, which I assume means omicron. Even with a mask mandate, only half or so are wearing them and store employees aren't willing to be stabbed over enforcement. Test appointments are getting to be pretty slim pickings and only if you're willing to drive. I ordered 2 more boxes of binax from Sams. I feel like the sky is falling 😞
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2 minutes ago, Terabith said:
I think he's wanting it multiple times a day, which is way more often than she wants tea, but she feels awful turning him down and rejecting him.
I'm glad she has you to talk with. It sounds stressful. I hope the thread gives her some insight.
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@Terabith is your friend concerned that tea is too often or too infrequent? There are a lot of mental health (and physical) that could make it less often. The only thing I can think of that would be concerning about too often is perhaps manic episodes in a bipolar person.
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I'm so sorry you're dealing with this. Considering how important it is for your family to stay well I think the testing scenario along with masking is totally reasonable. I might also supply them with n95s to be sure they have good masks. I wouldn't personally be comfortable with shared eating and drinking in this situation, but if you must it would be helpful to have the air purifiers and have them swish and spit mouthwash outside right before eating.
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46 minutes ago, KSera said:
Where did you read it tanks after 2-4 weeks? I haven’t seen that we have any data on it yet. The latest out of Israel was another study showing strong protection one month out from a booster dose: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-study-finds-pfizer-covid-19-booster-protects-against-omicron-2021-12-11/?taid=61b53a56c672dc0001d661c3&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter
You’re right that we don’t have information yet to know how long lasting it will be. Usually, doses spaced farther out from the initial doses give longer lasting protection, but all the mutations in Omicron may affect that. That said, the point for people boosting now is so that they can safely make it through this omicron wave headed our way, and even more, to protect immediately from Delta, which it does well and is still predominant in the US and the strain causing all the deaths we’re currently seeing.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.07.21267432v1.full.pdf
Page 3 figure 1 shows the huge drop in nab 3 months after the third Pfizer booster. VE can't be directly correlated but it is quite obviously below the level of 6 months after 2 shots against delta.
I want everyone to get a booster. I hope they do. That is one part of the puzzle to get through this. But let's not have people thinking they can ditch their masks and testing just because 75% is pretty good. That is going to have a lot of people feeling misled and lied to in a couple months.
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12 minutes ago, MEmama said:
I mean, that’s not what the studies are showing at all.
We are in the early days of omicron (seriously, that name is ridiculous), but so far it looks like a booster protects greatly against it— like aren’t they saying 75%? But the original doses not as much, especially if it’s been several months.The 75% is 2-4 weeks after the booster. After that it tanks. Not a good long term plan to booster people every month.
Eta: that's against infection. Boosters are surely still helpful against severe disease for much longer. I'm not suggesting they are worthless, just that they aren't going to stop infection.
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I agree with others that seasons and appetites vary. However, if you're talking like a whole year or something there are probably some other issues. One couple I know was 2 years before the husband found out the wife had been having an affair. Another couple I know hasn't had tea in 3 years, but neither is cheating. They are more like good roommates I guess. The husband is very unhappy though.
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YLE posted this morning that 5 million 5-11 yos are now vaccinated with 0, yes ZERO, myocarditis cases. I'm hopeful that this will get some of the wait-and-see parents off the fence. It also makes me feel 99% better about a possible booster for them in the next 3 months.
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Booster now. Omicron is a rfn problem. Worry about July in June. Delta will probably be gone and there will probably be another booster. If not, worst case scenario, they get an under the radar booster in June.
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N95 masks
in The Chat Board
Posted · Edited by Syllieann
You can order directly from softseal and they have sizes to fit the whole family. I'm wanting to try one of these for my small 8 yo because the kf94 still fogs his glasses when exercising.
@Pawz4me Aaron Collins reviewed airgami masks that you might want to check out. It maximizes surface area to make breathing easier.