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  1. I'm not sure who you're addressing here, as I only asked for your sources, and I asked for them because there are numerous other medical doctors, professionals and researchers who *are* saying it is more virulent. That's not controversial. And there are quite a lot of people very interested in any risk of Covid being completely minimized, despite really horrible (& ongoing) consequences for millions of people around the globe.
  2. Do you have links for/from any of these professionals? (Asking sincerely, as it would be nice to know/compare.)
  3. The Delta variant is not yet prevalent on a national scale (in meaningful numbers). As for Missouri & Arkansas, new COVID-19 admissions rose 30% over the past two weeks, with HCWs stating that patients are younger and getting sicker much faster. (Covid surging in Missouri as Delta variant overwhelms hospitals). Now, some states do have strong vaccination rates, so hopefully delta results will be better in those states. But in states where vax rates are low......
  4. Just some new news re: Delta..... The CDC has stated the Delta variant is "more transmissible". Delta variant now accounts for more than half of all US infections. Hospitals in Springfield, MO - currently the nation's top hot spot - are full & having to either transfer patients out &/or borrow ventilators, & have necessitated the deployment of a national Covid surge team, all due to specifically to the rapidly increasing Delta variant. That said, I'm not 'into' trying to convince anyone whether Delta is this or that compared to other variants, so YMMV with all of the above. I'm just frustrated because it'd be really nice if people did take this virus seriously & if we didn't have to go through more nightmare state-wide or regional surges (aka 2020 FL, TX, CA+) where thousands of people were dying and/or hospitalized every day. Not sure we're gonna avoid that scenario, tho, unfortunately.
  5. I had Pfizer and, with the first shot, had fairly significant flu symptoms (exhaustion, fever, chills) for 2-3 days, barely had any reaction to the 2nd shot. But, no, I personally never had a sore throat, not even after the first. I don't think a sore throat is a typical symptom.
  6. We won't change what's coming, but we can help to mitigate even worse outcomes by reducing our impact on earth and trying to help all the other life forms who have the great misfortune to be stuck on Planet Earth with humans. Taking out most of our lawns (plant trees, wildflowers, whatever) & helping to preserve & rehabilitate wild lands and degraded farm lands is one way to help (altho I acknowledge that will do nothing to help all the ocean creatures). We really need to stop the fossil fuel use, but we haven't even shown the ability to mildly slow it down so far, so......
  7. Hmmmm....I think there are multiple facets to coming to grips with climate change. And one's viewpoint/response is largely framed by how one views what climate change is, or will be. (I'm not looking to - nor will I -argue about this here.....what follows is where I am at, based on my own research). But I think some of these facets are getting mixed together in this thread, so perhaps (?) some of this will help: - yes, building emotional/mental resiliency/capacity/skills is important, both to endure / handle the things life throws at you, and for being able to *better* navigate a world with an unstable, increasingly inhospitable climate, along with all of the cascading effects of that. Building resiliency for one set of conditions (e.g. the hardships life throws at one) is not comparable (IMHO) to the skills necessary to adequately cope with, say, collapsing biospheres, global grain failures, and massive migrations (as some examples). It's a different order of magnitude, altho the former definitely can assist with the latter. The former remains important, working toward the latter is a long process, and can be very difficult. - individual actions can strengthen one's integrity (&, hence, resilience), but they are not going to change anything on the macro scale. Emissions (of just about everything imaginable) continue to increase every year. On a global scale, we are not even slowing down (other than a brief pandemic pause) what we're spewing into the atmosphere, or waters, or soil. - While anger & blame can easily become their own counterproductive stopping points, going deeper into & through them can lead to important awakenings to the underlying source(s) of "how we got here" (and, also, "how we are quickly getting to irreversible tipping points"). Yes, selfish individual choices & oil companies & nefarious politicians/leaders/whomever are definitely all to blame. However....I would argue that getting stuck there is missing the smoking gun, which is (IMHO) how the hell humanity decided in the first place that they/we weren't part of the living biosphere of this earth, and that it was/is ours to treat however we want, with short-term human profit, comfort & convenience being the main (if not only) criteria we use when determining what action(s) should be taken on this planet. Religion (or certain worldviews commonly held w/i religions), science, industry, etc are all intertwined here. Entire books have been written about this, so I'm not going to cover the topic here, but....studying & contemplating this topic in depth can lead to some pretty deep worldview challenges/changes. - if one is so inclined, there are a number of resources out there that can help anyone (including young people) cope better. These are some that have been helpful for my family: Deep Nature Connection Schools - many based on the work of the 8 Shields Institute. The focus is on reconnecting with the earth, learning traditional (aka so-called 'primitive' skills), but also learning how to interact in a community, tell stories, etc etc. My kids (now in mid-to-late-teens) have developed much confidence & resiliency here. Just to clarify - these schools are different than survival schools, even tho some of the same skills are taught. The focus here is much more nature-focused & can be (depending on the school) somewhat animist in approach. Most places have classes for adults, too. I can send you resources on how to find one if you're interested - they are not common but are found throughout US & Europe. (As a side note, while I'm proud of the 'survival' skills my kids have developed, I don't for an instant think they - or anyone - can just go survive in the woods in a post-apocalyptic future. But developing those skills gave them a lot of confidence & resilience, and a tiny bit of feeling like they could help themselves.) Learning permaculture and/or regenerative agriculture (or learning about them) can, again, provide some sense of control, competence, way(s) of thinking how to inhabit the world. Regenerative ag is picking up steam throughout the world, which is hopeful. Toward that end, Ecosystem Restoration Camps are where a lot of positive things are happening, and most camp happenings are appropriate for teens/YA. There are now several camps in the US, although one of the CA ones just burned down. Deep Adaptation Forum - for the hardcore only, but I like that the focus here is on maintaining compassion for self & others & building whatever resiliency can be managed. The philosophy is that we go through this together, with whatever community we can muster, not pretending that you're gonna be able to save your own ass while others die en masse around you (aka many survivalists). I don't spend much time with this forum (for mostly practical reasons), but sometimes it's nice to hang with a bunch of people where you don't have to argue that cc is happening, or pretend that the next 50 years will just be a modified version of the past 500. I have other things I could add, but, um, this is a novel already. Hope some of this helps.
  8. Well, I was never Orthodox, but, based on what I know about the Orthodox Church, I'm gonna guess everything but the (now) Bible was taught/viewed as "heresies" and that God's Word came through as it should have in the Bible which we have today. Which is a different viewpoint than a strictly historical undertaking. But perhaps I'm wrong. To be clear - I'm not trying to tweak people who hold to the Christian faith. But this discussion started with a Deconstructing Religion book recommendation, so I'm under the impression that the subject for this thread is the deconstruction of religion (& the series I mentioned was a part of my own deconstruction journey), but it seems like we're getting into defending religion / certain denominations here, which seems like it should be a separate thread.
  9. Of course it depends on the the church you are attending, but you can't tell me that teaching a full, unretouched version of those first 300 years is standard practice in nearly any Christian church or denomination (other than perhaps some of the very liberal ones). Out of the literally dozens of churches I attended throughout my life, in a range of denominations, I never heard about those 300 years, unless it was an overview, and *always* with the emphasis that God guided the process to ensure that the "true" books were selected at the Nicene Council. Churches teach on the Bible as it is written, not cover the fact that there were originally multiple factions, each with their own version on what Jesus meant/taught, and how only one version eventually made it's way through the Empire-approved process. The church where the referenced series was held was was eventually kicked out of its conservative denomination for not toeing the line formally enough; the series I spoke of was one of the things cited. It was a very small and very unique church, the minister had a PhD in Christian history & mystical traditions (or something to that effect). Despite searching for years afterward, in multiple cities in which I lived, I never again found a church like it. So, um, very much not typical. And, no, I was not trying to be scientific in my post.
  10. Whenever there is a conflict between "love thy neighbor" and some other phrase in the Bible, "love they neighbor' will lose, just about every time. IME. I had a minister once who did an 8-week series on the first 300 years of Christianity. Ever notice how you never hear about those first 300 years at any church? Yeah, there's good reasons for that. It's because there were a lot of competing narratives about Jesus & who he was & what he was / stood for / said. Now, of course, Christians believe that THE correct story is the one that was adopted during the Council of Nicaea, and that's the basis of their faith, and there's all sorts of reasons given why the other narratives were rejected. However, I was shocked by what I learned. And I really didn't agree that there was one "right" version. I had had no idea of what went on during those 300 years....300 years!...for the uninformed, I'll just summarize by saying that those three centuries were full of hideous politics, power-grabbing, brutal silencing, and every other form of human ickery you can think of, as various factions fought for who's version of Christ would win. And I remember being really sad at the end of the course. Thinking how the last 1700 might have played out differently - for women, for the earth, etc - if some of the very different, competing narratives would have been included.
  11. Yes, as someone who moved from Catholic-raised to (very briefly, in my late teens) evangelical to somewhat-liberal Baptist (American Baptist) to searching-desperately-for-any-church-that-worked-for-my-family (won't bore you with the details) to a None to now an Other (non-Abrahamic tradition), the inherent misogyny of much of what I was originally immersed in is still somewhat triggering, esp. since it is so heavily displayed in this culture & this culture's politics. I don't know how you *don't* end up with misogyny when the foundational religion(s) establish a rigid, gender-based hierarchy, with the man *always* above the woman. Hierarchy = those who are 'above' have all the decision-making power that counts & those 'below' don't. That's what a hierarchy *is*, no matter how many pretty words might be used to whitewash those realities. Misogyny exists outside of religion, of course, but it's very difficult to escape once it's seen as the "Word of God".
  12. Agreed. Although, IMHO, the entire point of the law is to position the Governor well with the base, in preparation for a 2024 Presidential run, so whether the law is good or sh*t or effective or not is irrelevant. It just needs to look like he's "done something" about the hysteria-du-jour.
  13. I live in a state where the current vaccinated rate is <50%....and *NO ONE* is masking. Anywhere. Countdown to being the next Missouri (Delta variant hot spot, if you're not already aware).......
  14. IMHO, I think the people who display it now (especially in the northern states, where I've always lived) see it as a 'bold statement of rebellion against a tyrannical federal government'. Please note that this is not what I think, this is what I think they think, based upon my observations / interactions. I'm not sure many could articulate specifically why they fly it, other than a general enjoyment of rebelling. It's ego, plain and simple. And they couldn't care less about what that flag means to black people (or they'll get really defensive about it). Which, IMHO, is a reflection of their character, or lack of it.....there's a reason a lot of the people who fly that flag can be seen with flags or bumper stickers that state, "F*ck Your Feelings". I always find it rather comical when people in formerly Union states fly the Confederate flag.
  15. I am thinking of that line from the Bible....something about "be gentle as doves, but wise as serpents" (or perhaps it was vice versa, I'm not Christian, my apologies if I'm misquoting). That's who you now need to be. In person & when interacting, you & (ex-ish) hubby should still be friendly and on great terms (as much as possible). Behind the scenes, your little duck feet are paddling as furiously as you have energy to muster on any given day. Not to screw him over, but to protect yourself AND YOUR DAUGHTER. (By this I mean....it does not help her if you are being emotionally drug all over the carpet. It does not help her if he pulls shenanigans or mistreats you or runs up a bunch of debt, etc. These things will negatively impact her more than the divorce.) Your ONLY loyalty now is to the family that you have been left with....which does not include (by his CHOICE) your (ex-)husband.
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