I need to know if I purchase an Apologia Biology text CD, will I be able to print off the lab pages? Thanks!

Can you print pages from the cd roms? I need to print the Apologia Biology labs, but want to know if I even can before I invest in the CD Rom. Thanks!

We've used TT Algebra, Alg II, and Geometry. Going to use Pre-Calc this year. I was going to purchase it used, but your thread has me confused. I didn't know they were updating editions. Can someone tell me if the pre-calc will have a new edition? Also, what about the alg I and II & geometry?

I have one from the '80s with really outdated photos. Can anyone tell me what year the latest edition is? Thank you.

After using Singapore Math with my oldest ds, I started by middle son on it in 1st grade. I quickly saw it wouldn't work for him, so we switched to Horizons. He just finished 6 years of Horizons and I am happy with the program. My ds really needed the spiral approach with repeating what was learned in previous lessons. There was just enough practice without being overwhelming. We are moving on to Horizons 7 next year.

Thank you, STEM. I want to make sure I choose something challenging and make sure it covers the same or more material than other biology courses, like Apologia. I love trying new curriculum, but as we are now in high school where it matters more, new or unproven materials scare me a little. Did you find the textbook written clearly, easy to understand, and with examples? How about the book photos. Are there plenty of photos in the textbook?

The school year is coming to a close and I wonder how you liked this curriculum. I'd like to hear some comments before I decide to commit to it for next year. Thank you so much!

Happy Day!! Congratulations! You should both be very proud.

Hmm, sharing a bedroom poses many challenges! My two each have their own rooms, so they do not face many distractions. Perhaps consider having a strict no talking rule during their extra reading time. If they break it, it's lights out early. Hopefully their desire to stay up later will triumph over their need to chit chat and goof around. It may take some time, though. I also let them read purely for pleasure during this time. They can choose to read their required school reading if they wish, but I don't make them.

My dh isn't a reader, but I love to read. My oldest ds enjoyed reading right from the beginning and I let him read for 1/2 hour after he went to bed. His little brother, 3 yrs younger, wanted to "read" too and looked at picture books in his bed. He wasn't as keen on reading after he learned how and I enticed him by reminding him that he could stay up 1/2 hour later and read in bed. (You know how little boys don't like to go to bed!) That was key #1 for getting them both to love reading. Letting them stay up later, but only if they read, and they had to read in bed. Key #2 was finding books that captured their interest. Once they get hooked into the first book in a series, you've got them! You'll quickly learn where their interests lie. I do make them read at least 3 chapters of a book before they decide it's not interesting. Rarely have they turned one down. My 2nd ds is now 11 and a verocious reader. I had to really encourage him in the beginning. Now, it's a part time job keeping him in books--he will read 2-3 a week! Admittedly, I do let him stay up reading until 10 pm. I've caught him reading past 11 pm and once at 2 am when I got up to use the bathroom and saw his light on. Neither of my ds read much during the day. I'm certain that if I would have had a strict lights out policy at bedtime, they would not be readers now.

Oh, I agree. This board is a wealth of knowledge! I meant that I was saying farewell to this thread, not the board. I felt no need to comment further. Until now. :D OK, adieu to this thread! :auto:

I'm tired of the bashing as well. It's not fair to lump this discussion in with the other negative stuff as I wasn't bashing SWB. I'm tired of comments being spun to sound like severe, uncompromising, harsh ideas. Saying it would be nice to know ahead of time if a hsbook contains sexual content is a far cry from "nipping at her heels for warning labels." Or "demanding them." Clearly this evokes strong emotions and has become a debate unlikely to sway either side. Therefore, I, the OP, am bidding everyone adieu. Although I truely do appreciate all the time you all have given to address my concern, it has left me with an unpleasant aftertaste. As I do love 99% of HOAW, we will continue reading it with my correction tape in hand. I've chosen, odd as it may seem, to cover the sexual referenced sentences with correction tape for my future children as my means of dealing with this topic.

No one is advocating a mandate or demanding anything. It wouldn't be a "warning." A line that states "Contains sexual references" or something benign like that isn't such a big deal. I agree with what Melissa said. And some books, like HOAW, are too long to pre-read. That's why a little "heads-up" would help some of us parents who wish to avoid sexual references. I, personally, am referring only to a history book with sexual references, not perceived violence. Many posts have included the "ugly side" of history in this lot. I believe there is a distinct difference between reading the violent, unpleasant side of history and reading the sexual side. What students read in college and adulthood should be different than high school. Lumping a 14 yr old in with a college student doesn't make sense on many levels.

I don't know anything about MFW, but my ds used Literary Lessons from the Lord of the Rings last year (8th grade). There was quite a bit of writing involved since we did not do any orally. I could not imagine using it dually with another lit program without a considerable amount of modification. Is it the lit program he is interested in or more the books themselves? Perhaps he would be happy just reading them for fun along side your ancients study.

Thanks, Nan. I certainly didn't intend this as a personal insult or attack on SWB and had no idea of her current "bad time" you are referring to. As I said in my initial post, we LOVE FLL and SOTW. I'm always referring to my WTM edition. Love SWB. Just not thrilled with some of the content in this one book. I had no idea this would stir such conflict. Sorry ya'll.

I don't know what more research I could have done, short of asking directly on these boards whether or not the book contained sexual references. That thought never crossed my mind. ANd to clarify what seems to be a misunderstanding, my ds is 14 and in 9th grade, not younger. This book was written for hs freshman. (I say that because its description states it is for high schoolers, SWB wrote it, and SWB suggests teaching ancients in 9th grade. Seems like a reasonable assumption.) Swimmermom3 said it best: SWB caught me off guard! "Warnings" is a harsh word. A "heads up" wouldn't kill anyone. If nothing else, that is what this thread has done--given a "heads up" to anyone considering this book that might take issue with the sexual content. I'm sure I'm not the only one despite the fact that I appear to be! Why isn't there a smilie for hiding under a blanket? :D

While I did not ask for pg number annotations, is it inconceivable to consider a small disclaimer? I'm not talking Amazon.com here, but on a small website catering (not entirely, I know) to homeschoolers like Peacehillpress. We all have our reasons for homeschooling. For many, one of those reasons is to limit certain influences and teach subjects with a certain viewpoint that coincides with our belief system. Why can't we discuss having some disclaimers on certain homeschool curricula? I'm NOT saying websites or even authors must have them. But, wouldn't it be nice to have them in certain circumstances? That way we wouldn't have to guess if a science program is creation based or big bang. Whether or not literature contains sexual content. I see many posts looking for secular curriculum. Many looking for a religious bent. Let the descriptions tell us. Maybe "disclaimer" is not the right word. We all spend so much time and energey researching the perfect curriculum for our child. We struggle between this one and that one. Sometimes the choices are easy to make, sometimes they are very hard. No, SWB or Peacehillpress or any other website does not have to provide us that information. I just asking, "Wouldn't it be nice if they did?"

No, I was not saying SWB, or any author, should or can anticipate anyone's objections. I am not trying to disparage this book or the author as I think highly of her writing and have used her materials for the last 8 years. I wish this topic would have been mentioned on the boards when I was looking into purchasing it. Not much was written about the book. Had someone mentioned this I would have made a different choice. No, I'm not saying it should have been talked about, because clearly it is not an issue for most of you. I'm only saying I wish it would have been because it would have helped me out. :chillpill: Trying to keep my 14 yr old in the dark about sex is a ridiculous statement. Don't judge me because you don't know me. That's not the case. I just don't want it in my history book. Yes, I also read reviews on movies before we rent them because I don't want my children watching sex on tv. Is that ok or am I too prudish there as well? Whatever your opinions are, my personal view is that there is too much sex everywhere. Books, movies, magazine covers at the grocery store, on the news, and now in my history book. Our current society is not better off with all this openess and enlightenment. But, that's must my opinon. I never meant for this to become a heated topic! I only wondered if anyone else out there felt like I did.

I still disagree. I have read these parts in context. We have read through chapter 68 so I have a clear understanding of the book and how SWB writes. There is not one of those references that I feel needs to be in there to make the context presented clear. If she would have left them all out, I would not have been confused or left lacking in information. My point is that I feel they do nothing--absolutely nothing--to help me understand those portions of history or the people involved. I could care less about their s**ual preferences and exploits. I do care about where/who they ruled, not whether or not they slept with their own daughter. And the where/who/when is what I want my children to learn about, not the other. I don't understand this notion that you have to know about the s**ual tendencies of historical rulers to truely understand the time period. I never learned that in public school or college and I had a firm grasp on history. It may not be a "big deal." I still don't want it in my son's history book. Or at the very least, I would have liked to have known about it before I made my purchase. Informed decision-making is always a good thing!

Well, it sounds as if I'm the only one with an issue! I do appreciate your points of view and will leave me with something to think about. I still think 95% of the references could have been left out without sacrificing any context. And I still think my 14 yr old is too young. I'll probably always feel that way. It's hard letting go. Want to keep them by babies forever! :blush:

Ok, just read the description on Peacehillpress.com: Susan Wise Bauer's history book for high schoolers and adults! Perhaps you think I'm being too prudish. However, I don't agree that age 14 is an appropriate age for this. 17 or 18 I could deal with it. One of the reasons we hs is to shelter our kids from too young exposure. Granted, it's in literature, but I just don't think it was necessary to add it into this book. It's a shame for me because I love the way SWB writes history. Nothing compares. I'll just feel a bit sad if I can't continue with the series. sigh

I can't remember where all of them are since we are far into the book. Today we read on pg 570 "Among the solutions for the city's troubles is a law proclaiming that any man who wants to sleep with a young woman has to 'pleasure an older one first.'" Pg 522: "This time, he annoyed his wife by 'not having s** with her in the usual way. There are several direct references and actual use of the s** word and references to it that just makes it very uncomfortable to read aloud with my son. I thought this was written for the high school level. Perhaps I'm mistaken In which case I need to switch to a different history book next year. Can anyone verify if the Medieval book is free of these references?

Mind you, we loved SOTW. We loved FLL. We love HOAW--my ds, (9th grader) read it out loud together. BUT, I'm confused as to why SWB throws in s**ual content. I don't want to read out loud to my 14 yr old son about exploits and personal details. They do nothing to enhance our understanding of history. Actually, it's detracting from it and making me a little mad as I, once again today, had to skip over a couple of sentences. Why is this stuff in there? I'm now regretting the fact that I already purchased History of the Medieval World for next year and wondering what's in there. Am I the only one? No one has seemed to mention this.

Yay! I love reading these types of posts. Very encouraging. My ds used TT alg in 7th grade, TT alg II in 8th, and is now using TT geometry in 9th. I'm always a little concerned when I read posts that say TT is behind or not as rigorous and I wonder if I made the correct choice doing alg II before geometry. These last few TT posts have been a confidence booster. Thanks for posting!

My son is in 9th grade and I let him choose what science he wanted to focus on this year. He did 1 semester of Horticulture and is now doing a semester of Astronomy using Comins' Discovering the Universe. Next year we'll start with the required lab sciences.