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  1. One was a homeschool mom. They were all Mormons as far as I know.  Most if not all of the children in the group received some kind of bullet wound. 

    My heart is just breaking for them , their families, their friends, their communities.

    From the article linked below:

    At least nine U.S. citizens, including six children, who live in the Mexican border state of Sonora were killed in a shooting attack Monday 

    Rhonita Maria LeBaron, reportedly died along with her twin 6-month-old babies and her two other children aged 10 and 12  

    Also killed were Christina Langford Johnson, Dawna Langford and two of Dawna's children

    Seventeen family members from the LeBarons and Langford families - who are related - were traveling in a caravan of three cars to a wedding 

    According to relatives, Mexican drug cartel gunman opened fire 

    One relative said as many as 13 others were missing after the attack

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7650129/Relatives-say-5-US-citizens-killed-northern-Mexico.html?fbclid=IwAR1TctWmQf2yd1sSi83AvwWBQ2jmYctJhk6ExJXtO3l7IievpHOS8wUmrfI

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  2. I had two Mirena IUDs with only minor cramping and spotting at time of insertion. I had the second one pulled out last February and had horrible labor-like cramps. My gyn thinks it had become lodged in my c-section scar. She decided to wait a week before inserting the new one. I had cramps up until the day before appointment for insertion. At that appointment, she tried for over 30 minutes to get the new one in, but was never able to as I cramped as soon as she touched my cervix. I then had horrible cramps for over two weeks. It totally wasted my entire month of February. I am now bc free, which isn't ideal. But I will never try another IUD, even though I loved my first two. What my gyn said at the time is that some women have very sensitive cervixes. I don't know. But when I was reading about IUDs, I was surprised that other countries insert them under sedation. That would be so much better!

    I agree you should go back to the doctor, but I also wouldn't be surprised if it was "just" lingering pain from all you have been through. Hugs!

     

    That's pretty much what they said when I left last time.  That I was just having a bad inflammatory reaction.  

  3. Honestly, I'd try and go someplace else if the gyn is not freaking out about you being in this much pain three weeks later.  I have a Mirena.  I had a cramp for 15 seconds or so after insertion.  I went home, took 3 Advil and that was that.

     

    I have not heard of anybody experiencing what you are experiencing.

     

     

    Is there another hospital that you could go to?  Another gynecologist?  Planned Parenthood?  What about a CNM?

     

    No one on my insurance anyway.  The nearest next doctor on my insurance is in the next town over 2ish hours away. 

     

    Honestly, I'm gearing up to go in again. I promise.  I just feel like any moment I'll hit on the right set  of pain meds and rest and supplements and it'll be better by tomorrow.  It's just that it's not happening. 

     

    And I so tired of doing this alone.  My husband, loves me, and wants to help, but has to work.  And medical stuff just isn't his thing.  And truly, he just defers to me to make the "medical" decisions - even his.   

     

    On a bright note:  I'm so glad yours is working for you!!  I've heard lots of good things about them from in real life people.  Pretty much fuss free bc is such a bonus!!!

  4. This is not normal at all.  Please, go back.  Be the squeaky wheel.  I'm very worried about you.  I'd even consider going to the ER at this point.

     

    I've been playing around with the idea of the ER in my head.  But my gyn is THE guy they ask to come to the ER for stuff like this so there wouldn't be a point unless it was the middle of the night.

  5. I think you need a hysteroscopy to look for the problem. This is not normal. You can get a mild sedative for the procedure, and DEFINITELY insist on a cervical block for it. (I just had the cervical block and it wasn't bad at all. 

     

    I'm like running around screaming in my head  :willy_nilly:  :svengo:  :willy_nilly:  thinking about them doing a hysteroscopy.  I might go back to the doctor this week if the bleeding doesn't let up.   But right now, I'm just so very over being touched by a medical person.

     

    Thank you though.  You're very right. It's not normal. 

  6. So ... long story short.  I had to have an unexpected d&c in November to prevent me from bleeding too much during my miscarriage.  The pregnancy was unexpected and happened while I was on the mini pill. I had been having lots of problems with other forms of bc like the contraceptive film and foam and when we made the switch we found ourselves pregnant.  So then we had to find a different form of bc.

     

    I nixed the idea of getting my tubes tied.  There's too many horror story out there about those. No thank you.

     

    I should have listened to my inner self when they suggested the Mirena IUD.  I said Yes anyway.  And on Monday Dec. 19th I had one inserted.  

     

    It was really painful. I had lot of bleeding. Later that night I had a lot of cramping.  By the morning it was just super uncomfortable. Okay, I thought, maybe it'll be okay. By Wednesday night I was thinking there may be a problem.  By Thursday night I knew there was a problem.  By Friday morning I was crying on the phone to the Gyn in terrible terrible pain.  Being the the 23rd they were closing at noon, but they got me in with the NP.  I was in so so much I couldn't walk.  They gave me a shot of muscle relaxer.  And sent me to ultrasound in a wheelchair to make sure it hadn't perforated.  It had not perforated, thank you, but it was twisted or something.  They removed it right then.  There wasn't any blood then.  They sent me home on doxycyclene and told me to take ibuprofin for pain.

     

    The pain didn't stop.  On Monday the 26th I was stuttering a low grade 100.5 fever.  On Tuesday the office opened back up and I was crying on the phone again.  The had me come in and have a CT scan to check things out.  I glow in the dark now.  It's kinda cool.  Anyway, they couldn't find anything.  The quick test for bacteria came back negative. Sent me home with a prescription for some pain relievers.  Tylenol with codeine.  No help.

     

    On Saturday night (yay New Years) I had horrible horrible horrid stabbing cramps and passed a huge bright red clot with a torrent of gushing blood.  But as soon as it started it stopped.  Left in it's wake is daily cramping with pangs of labor like pains with occasionally shooting and stabbing pains and I'm bleeding like a regular period all day.  Way more than spotting, but way less than a bad period can't leave the house kinda day.  The pain is all day. Worse at night.  I can't bend or twist in the slightest.  I have some periods where the pain is hovering out of sight and I'm pretty pain free. Like when I'm sitting with my feet up but even then cramps can start.  The period of pain free times probably adds up to about 2 hours out of the whole day.  Yes, it can and does wake me at night every so often.

     

    I'm in my third week.  I'm losing hope I'll ever be pain free.  I'm crashing mentally.  My house is a mess. Schoolwork is non-existent.  I have a part time job that I can do slowly and without oversite (my boss is on the other side of the country) but I'm contemplating quitting because I was already stretched thin with the job and homeschooling and now, I'm just not homeschooling. Except for board games and Thank God for Teaching Textbooks!! and Youtube.  

     

    I'm trying to control it all with the following:

     

    2 aleve 220mg twice a day

    1 extra strength tylenol twice a day

     

    Tramadol for the really really bad times.  But I have to be very careful.  My body over reacts to it and I have already had a bad reaction where I passed out. 

     

    Golden Milk.  Turmeric with honey and pepper in milk.

    Hot water bottle.

    Baths with epsom salts.

     

    Magnesium supplements. 500mg (I think) at night

     

    Since the tests came back negative or at the most inconclusive I got the very real impression there isn't much they can do for me.  I'm reluctant to go back because I don't think I could stomach another painful round of pelvic exams.

     

    I'm super scared by the way.  I KNOW that there is something more brewing.  At some point my body is going to remember that I should start my period around the 10th or so.  My periods had been bad before.  This one is sure to be really bad.

     

    I'm also super scared that something may go really really wrong and they'll start suggesting a hysterectomy. 

     

    So here I am. Hanging on to the knot I've tied in my rope.  

     

    What more should I be doing?

     

    PS:  sorry it's so long.  You should give yourself a pat on the back or something for making it this far.

  7. Changing hats/changing roles.

     

    It's not an approach to homeschool that I would want, but I can imagine it working for some families.

     

    For some reason this thread sparked a reminder of when my older kids were young. When it was time to clean the house I would take on a new persona--I became "The Royal Camel Driver" who talked in a funny accent and barked out orders. I definitely could not be TRCD and Mom at the same time!

     

    Fun memories, maybe I need to revive him for the younger kids...

     

    That's fun!  I might steal it!

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  8. I remember hearing about that, but I can't remember if I actually read the book or if it was a homeschool conference speaker talking about how nuts the idea was. I think the kids also said goodbye to their mother and went out the front door, then came around to the back door of the house to come in for school. Or I'm combining several different memories of things I thought were a little crazy.

     

    Out the front door and into the back?  Oh, boy.

  9. Does anyone remember the name of the book that suggests you have your children call you "Mrs.____" during school hours?

     

     

    There's someone in my "circle" who is doing that with her kids... and uniforms.... and I was trying to understand where she is coming from.  

     

    I know there's a book.... isn't there?

     

     

    I ran a search here and on google and I'm probably not using the right search terms....

     

     

  10. I take some of my answers with kids from my religious tradition, though I also try and give somewhat open ended answers or show ways of thinking about these kinds of questions.

     

    I think six is a common age for questions about death, and also some anxiety about it - I think two of my three children had that experience.  I just kept answering their questions as best I could, and in some instances I chose to give the answers that were more reassuring, even if they weren't the whole story.

     

    Pre-teens are oftten trying to think about such things in more rational ways, and Ithink it's actually important to go somewhere with it, give them real places to look.  Kids who come up with nothing, no way to understand meaning, during this period, seem very vulnerable to me as they become young adults.

     

    Precisely, especially the bolded is what I'm looking for.  I'm just not sure where to start.

     

    (for the record, we are agnostic. And I've discussed with him (11yo) other religious views. And I've discussed what I think and feel)

  11. As someone that suffers from this, I only have one answer. If you are seeing signs of anxiety or actual depression, please seek a therapist or counselor for your child. There is no one size fits all answer to existential depression and anxiety, because the root cause and internal belief structure of each sufferer is so different. I can go years now with meaning and purpose, and then a series of events can shake me to the core and I need my anxiety medication again. Now that I have a greater knowledge of science and the universe, and can see the big "picture," I'm fairly content with the small part I play in the game of life, and the even smaller part life plays in everything else. But it has taken me 40 years to get to this place.

     

    This is what has been true for me in my life.  And I'm thinking that my son will walk the same path.  My mother couldn't help me and I stopped asking her or anyone else.  

     

    Anecdotal evidence of therapists in my surrounding area has me thinking that right now, therapy is not appropriate. There is one in a larger city some 6 hours away, but it's not that feasible. Again, I'm seeing signs of anxiety, but I don't think that it's tripped into depression yet.  

     

    More information helped me, but it didn't come until later (30s).  I was hoping that were some books or other resources out there now that might help him know he's not alone in this struggle and what others his age are doing in their lives.

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  12. So two weeks or so ago I read this article:  http://sengifted.org/archives/articles/existential-depression-in-gifted-individual

     

    And like so much that happens in my life, it was timely.  About a week or so later my 11yo son started asking me about the meaning of life.  Was "this" all there was?  What is my purpose? Do I have a purpose?  What do I think happens when we die?  What about nuclear weapons?  What about war?  How do we work towards peace if we even have these weapons?  How do I as a kid affect enough change and give meaning in my life?  Is my meaning controlled by a higher power?

     

    And if those questions weren't tough enough, my 6yo son, separately came to me has been asking me what death means? What is his purpose?  How should he live his life?  How did I choose to live mine?

     

    I've talked to them about it from my own personal experience.  I've shared how I've struggled.  What I've read. How I'm still struggling to find answers.  How I find contentment and peace in my life without having all the answers.

     

    But, I realized last night that he's not only asking about these things, that he's fighting off anxiety from it.  I don't think he's depressed about it.  None of those signs are there.

     

    Have you or your children struggled with this?  What did you say? What did you read or watch that resonated with you? That helped you?  

     
  13. So two weeks or so ago I read this article:  http://sengifted.org/archives/articles/existential-depression-in-gifted-individual

     

    And like so much that happens in my life, it was timely.  About a week or so later my 11yo son started asking me about the meaning of life.  Was "this" all there was?  What is my purpose? Do I have a purpose?  What do I think happens when we die?  What about nuclear weapons?  What about war?  How do we work towards peace if we even have these weapons?  How do I as a kid affect enough change and give meaning in my life?  Is my meaning controlled by a higher power?

     

    And if those questions weren't tough enough, my 6yo son, separately came to me has been asking me what death means? What is his purpose?  How should he live his life?  How did I choose to live mine?

     

    I've talked to them about it from my own personal experience.  I've shared how I've struggled.  What I've read. How I'm still struggling to find answers.  How I find contentment and peace in my life without having all the answers.

     

    But, I realized last night that he's not only asking about these things, that he's fighting off anxiety from it.  I don't think he's depressed about it.  None of those signs are there.

     

    Have you or your children struggled with this?  What did you say? What did you read or watch that resonated with you? That helped you?

     

     

    (I think I'll cross post this)

     

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  14. The poster in that thread said she turned against the Wizard of Oz after reading about Frank L Baum and sophiology. I will bet anything she meant theosophy, not sophiology. Baum was associated with theosophy, but there does not seem to be any connection whatsoever between him and sophiology!

     

    Ah-ha! Thanks!  

     

    Off to find out what's so bad about Theosophy.... look out, I may have more questions.

  15. So it is a Feminine to contrast the Christian masculine God.  Not to be confused with Mary, mother of God.  And is more in line with being the Holy Spirit?  (head is spinning). So now I too am (even more) confused how it relates to Frank Baum and the Wizard of Oz.

     

    Dr. Arjakovsky notes Pope John Paul II in the encyclical Faith and Reason wrote the Mother of God is the throne of Wisdom.  This is accurate if we think of Wisdom, in this case, as Love.  But as noted earlier Sophia is not Mary.  This ongoing confusion distracts from what should be the central discussion of Holy Sophia as the Holy Spirit.  Dr. Arjakovsky cites other Catholics who have shown interest and been receptive to developing a Western Sophiology that include Olivier Clement, Maurice Gilbert, Tomas Spidik, and Teilhard de Chardin.[viii]

     

     

  16. Wait. Where did you hear the word sophistry being applied to the Wizard of Oz?

     

    OK, so it looks like I confused Sophistry with sophiology.  And I'm still interested in how it relates to the Wizard of Oz as I have never heard either term before.

     

     

    So how do I change of delete a post title?

  17. I'm honestly not trying to start anything by asking this. I'm curious as to what this "Sophistry" is and how it relates to the Wizard of Oz.  I've also seen it in relation to John McCain.  But beyond those references I can not find a discussion about what it is and how it applies to the world beyond a definition.   I'm betting it also has something to do with the Wizard of Oz being a reference to Nazi Germany?

     

    Please enlighten me.  :)

     

     

  18. My mom is about to sell her house in Florida. I would call it 3 bedroom but I could see how it could be a 1 bedroom or a 4 bedroom depending how you look at it.

     

    She had 1 bedroom that has 2 closets, a private door, 2 large windows. 1 bedroom that has a private door, a wall of windows and a fireplace (no closet). 1 bedroom which has a window (egress), a private door and no closet (she uses the whole room as a closet). All of these rooms can easily accommodate a queen size bed and a large dresser and probably a chair. Then she has a room with a closet, 2 doorways (one with a door but she could put on another door), one wall of windows and another window. She could only fit a twin size bed in there. Currently she uses it as an office. It is right next to a 3/4 bath.

     

    So how many bedrooms does she have?

     

    1 "bedroom" with 2 closets = bedroom #1

     

    1 "bedroom"  with no closet = bonus room/office #1

     

    1 "bedroom" with no closet = bonus room/office #2

     

    1 "bedroom" with 1 closet = bedroom #2 (add the door)

     

    She has a 2 bedroom home with 2 bonus rooms.  If she ignores it and lists the home as a true 4 bedroom, be prepared that when the buyer has a home inspection the inspector will point it out to the buyer.  And when they have an appraisal done, (required for all buyers in Florida, except those paying cash) the appraiser will for sure point it out.  

     

    And in Florida, when listing, even though it's on the form, there really isn't something called a 3/4 bath.  Most list it as full bath that only has a shower.  Purists exist, but I'd just list it as a full.

     

     

    http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0300-0399/0381/Sections/0381.0065.html

     

    (b)1. “Bedroom†means a room that can be used for sleeping and that:
    a. For site-built dwellings, has a minimum of 70 square feet of conditioned space;
    b. For manufactured homes, is constructed according to the standards of the United States Department of Housing and Urban Development and has a minimum of 50 square feet of floor area;
    c. Is located along an exterior wall;
    d. Has a closet and a door or an entrance where a door could be reasonably installed; and
    e. Has an emergency means of escape and rescue opening to the outside in accordance with the Florida Building Code.
    2. A room may not be considered a bedroom if it is used to access another room except a bathroom or closet.
    3. “Bedroom†does not include a hallway, bathroom, kitchen, living room, family room, dining room, den, breakfast nook, pantry, laundry room, sunroom, recreation room, media/video room, or exercise room.

     

     

    *edited, missed the other bonus room.

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