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Everything posted by MistyMountain

  1. Yes OG is an approach based on the research of Orton that Gillingham made more accessible. Things that fall under the umbrella of an OG approach can be a little different but they share certain components. My personal anecdote was that an OG method or methods based off of OG (Barton and Spalding) were not successful for my child that struggled the most but another systematic approach did work. Certain components of Barton and the ways it was organized just was not going to work if I tried to stick it out. What worked was not 'multi sensory'. There are tutors that use a very systematic phonics approaches that are not OG and they have helped lots of students. OG is a method that can work and has worked well and it is a researched based approach but there are other options that the teach alphabetic code in a systematic and successful way that is not OG and OG methods that may not work as well. It seems on here that sometimes people do say if it is dyslexia you should go with OG.
  2. Here is the link to it. It was listed in one of the links here but not a direct link it was mentioned in one of the articles.
  3. The reading panel was a compilation of studies and it did have research on different types of programs including OG which they then categorize in different ways. It shows much higher gains for kindergartners that start with phonics then 2nd graders or older who started with whole words then did phonics afterwards. The gains were also higher for synthetic phonics.
  4. I just started buying the answer keys instead of the teacher manual and it has been fine. We are in level 6 but I plan on doing the same for level 7.
  5. OG is not the be all end all and that is not what the research shows anyway. The research definitely shows that synthetic phonics instruction is superior but not that the only means of doing it is OG or that OG is the best method or the only method that is effective. What is clear from the research too is that kids that start with site words will develop habits that are harder to fix and it takes much longer to remediate in older children that were pre taught. Plus there are all different kinds of methods that are labeled OG that are very different. I like having more options then just OG.
  6. Yea I just read the one post I did in last years plans for next year thread and I actually did something different in every single category. I did change things around a bit for my older kids too but for my youngest I did something completely different. 😂 I am actually thankful I did not go with that plan though. She grew by leaps in bounds in reading this year.
  7. I hope there will be a workbook too. Dd is doing so well with the CLE light units that I hope it is something similar for Algebra. I wish the Algebra 2, Geometry and Trigonometry would be out before I needed them but I think that is unlikely.
  8. She is doing great at blending! It is so nice when you see progress in reading. I do really like how that program teaches blending but it is common to get stuck halfway through so if that happens do not worry just keep going with something else with the new skill of blending.
  9. Has anyone used Spelling and Dictation Plus? I am looking for something my dd that is heavy on dictation but does go over rules or patterns too. She learned to read with the 'I See Sam' sets and I think doing similar with spelling doing a lot of it in context will work for her. My ds who is a strong reader but weak speller is starting to get stuck in Apples and Pears too so I might try it for him too. The one worry though is that it will not have enough repetition of previously learned words.
  10. The books we read together that I discuss with my kids at the same time usually ends up with the same kid leading the discussion every time.
  11. Crime is actually down from when we were kids but the 24/7 media just does not make it seem that way. Sure we all heard of stories but statistically it is very rare for a stranger abduction to happen. There is no need for you to worry about those kids. It is your own worry and they are not yours to raise. The parents are not doing anything concerning.
  12. The dad was in the neighborhood so even if it was longer it is fine. I doubt they are left all day but short periods there is nothing wrong with.
  13. I see see zero issue at all with an almost 9 or 10 year old being by themselves for a few minutes while their dad is in the neighborhood. It was a little late at night but eh whatever. It is a bit overzealous to have such an issue with this and to knock on the door checking for the mom after what the girls described. You do not have to allow it yourself but it is plenty old enough to be left alone for small periods of time especially with a parent nearby. The kids in my neighborhood of all ages walk to a nearby playground and play and I think it is good for them. I have no problem letting kids that age alone for short periods of time. Kids like having increasing independence and it is not bad for them and actually can help them mature. This was the norm in most time periods.
  14. I have been reading the research from the Reading Panel that was linked here and it is eye opening. It is very clear that getting systematic phonics instruction as the first instruction is a lot more effective but it is also interesting how much harder it is to get gains when they did not start with phonics and they developed bad habits from site words. The research from the panel is showing how much more effective it is to start with systematic phonics in kindergarten then add it later with older kids. It is what has been said all along here but I wish there was more info on works for the kids that were not reached right away because we cannot give up on them. I am thankful that there are a few people that found things to work like ElizabethB. You really have an uphill battle though. I also think the finding that phonemic awareness instruction with letters produces a much higher effect then without and it is more effective with little ones. On another site I was hearing how teaching phonemic awareness out of context was not helpful for reading and I was taken back by that at first but I do see why now after reading the research. I really wish there were studies on decodable readers because it is my hunch that is one thing that will greatly improve decoding and give kids more practice. There is a lot if success out there with the Sam readers. I hear a lot of teachers saying that one of the issues is the phonics skills not transferring to reading. I think that a lot of phonics methods do not offer enough practice especially in context.
  15. I start my day a little earlier to fit more in. It is hard otherwise with more then one kid and all that I want to cover.
  16. I believe you that it was how you said. I am sorry that your dad was annoyed to have such a short conversation with you. I know that must be hurtful. I think you know things have been strained but you wanted to preserve what little relationship you did have because they were your parents. Since you guys have helped them and they helped you it is not unreasonable to ask a favor. I am sorry that you found out what your dad thinks of you. You did nothing wrong. He is the one who has emotional and attachment issues and now you can try to keep that in mind and keep your distance more.
  17. Yea I think the average SAT for students in the teaching program in the US is lower then for all other majors if I remember correctly. In the book the Smartest Kids in the World what some of the countries did that improved their stats was that it was actually very selective to get into the teaching program then they had a very good training program afterwards where the new teacher trains with an older one. I do think we need to revamp the programs themselves too. There are teachers who have a masters in special education who have no idea about testing for dyslexia or how to remediate never mind about dyscalculia which is an area they are usually weaker in themselves.
  18. I have seen lots of outrage over any math that is not the traditional right to left carrying method on social media always using one sample out of context and with someone who is not aware of the big picture of where the curriculum is going. I am sure there are some curriculums that do a poor job especially if they are skipping the concrete step but it is always just one example of a problem which does not tell you much about a curriculum. The latest is there was a video floating around of a teacher slowly teaching and explaining the area method of multiplying two digit by two digit numbers and someone posted a video of them solving it faster the traditional way because they are just solving it not trying to explain a concept and then they start coffee and show the coffee being made while the teacher explaining the area method is still teaching the method. The problem is easy to solve mentally which I can do faster then the person solving it the traditional way but people are missing the point that it is about teaching a kid to understand what is happening not to solve it as fast as possible which if you are teaching the other way would not be as fast as you solve it anyway. I see this video shared by lots of people people saying how dumb it is and decrying 'common core math'. Most comments are how outrageous it is to teach the area method rather then the right to left procedure. I have seen hyperbole over breaking problems up into hundreds of parts in second grade math. It is fine if people want to teach only the 'traditional' method which teaching the process by carrying numbers but it drives me crazy they do not even know much about any other ways of doing things or why it is done or about number sense and why kids who do not have an innate number sense benefit from being able to break apart numbers.
  19. The thing that reduces abortions the most is having good access to birth control that is not stigmatized. I do think this will reduce unwanted pregnancies and therefore abortions because it destigmatizes it and makes it easy to get. In countries where there is no stigma on birth control the abortion rate is much lower. It does work. I do hope the schools also have comprehensive sex education too and not just focused on sex itself and birth control methods but on healthy relationships, consent and how after having sex that it can be harder to leave someone and see red flags because of hormones. It would include a home link to help parents have an open dialogue with their kids and let them know their values about it. I do think that sex is better in a healthy long term relationship and that many teens make bad decisions about sex and relationships. Having condoms easily available will not stop teens from having sex but it will make it safer.
  20. This just came across my feed today and I thought it was good for what you were looking for.
  21. My dd has this class she takes that was encouraging her to read for prizes before she was ready to read on her own. I was at first trying to look up a books level that she could read to find others but I realized that these books are not leveled at all based on decodeability and I needed to wait until she had enough phonics patterns down to do books like Frog and Toad. I was looking for examples of kids reading and found lessons from various schools of guided reading groups. There were a lot teachers telling kids to look at the picture or to think of context especially in the early levels. Teachers were going over words before the lesson by sight not by sounding them out and teaching the pattern. Then they searched there books for these words then read. They did have the kids read through some of the words by sound and teach sounds but it was very hodge podge and they did encourage guessing from context especially in the early levels. I am surprised so many kids do learn to read under these circumstances and it is not surprising that so many do not. In the later levels they not are not looking at pictures to guess words but they preteach the story line and read as group so it is hard to catch the kids who are still guessing a lot. I have seen another article like this that is longer that I can try to find. It is good that you have backing by the admin to do what you want. I know how hard it is to change things up but you will be helping so many kids who are not being given the tools they need to learn to read become successful readers by using structured literacy.
  22. Ack I hope not. I just recieved set 5 form Rainbow Resources but they are of stock because of the supplier in several levels now on RR and they are out of stock the Signapore math page too. It is still listed on the FAN math page. I hope they are not being discontinued but it looks like they might be. If I realized that I would have ordered set 6 when it was still available recently.
  23. I liked their stuff. I would get it at the thrift store when it was available or for good sales and it always held up and they were comfortable and cute. My ds likes these pants I got there and I was going to see if grandma could pick some up for us but I guess I should do that.
  24. Yea I do wonder if things will improve if he fixes the sleep issue. I have recently seen something about mouth guards that can be molded and it changes the jaw shape enough to prevent snoring. He used to have a mouth guard for tooth grinding and he stopped using it and ended up grinding down his teeth. I am not sure if it stopped his snoring too because this was before we were married and I think the ones designed to prevent snoring may be newer. I also saw from this social media thing on kids and mouth breathing that getting tonsils out can also prevent it in some people. He is a mouth breather at night too. Like others mentioned he also uses his computer in the middle of the night if he wakes up which wakes me up every time and I have to tell him to put it under the covers at least and he falls asleep shortly after hitting the pillow.
  25. My 12 year old plays with much younger children in the neighborhood because there are no kids in her age range but she is not talking about drugs or using curse words used to demean a group of people. I think especially for the kids that are small for their age because they will hit puberty late that playing with younger kids is not concerning in itself. My dd takes on a mother hen type of role with younger kids and she tends to be at a similar peer or maturity level with kids a year or two younger or the kids her age who are also small for their age because they will be late developing. I would have an issue with what this kid is introducing but since you said his parents seem cool I would maybe bring it up with them and give them a chance to address it if you wanted to give him another chance.
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