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  1. I need help with these hundred-year-old records from Slovakia that are in Latin.

     

    I am specifically looking at the fifth person down here: Joannes, born July 4, baptized July 5. The index says his parents are Severinus Sztrczula and Catherina Feranecz. I see those names in the first column of the right-hand page. Who are the people two columns over, are they the godparents? Can anyone translate Joannes' whole row for me?

    1896-07-05SterculaJohnBaptismRecord.jpg

     

    Here, I am looking at the fifth row down, Maria, born 12 Sept 1898, baptized 18 Sept. Index says her parents are Daniel Loffay and Ludmilla Sztrczula. Again, I see those names in the first column of the right-hand page. But, two columns over, I see Severinus Sztrczula and Catherina Feranecz. How are they related to Maria? What is that column? Can you tell me what her whole row says?

    1898-09-18LofayMariaBaptismRecord.jpg

     

    I am trying to figure this out for a third cousin. These two people, Joannes Sztrczula and Maria Loffay ended up marrying each other in Pennsylvania. So, I'm interested how they relate since Joannes' parents show up in Maria's baptismal record (and those of her siblings before they immigrated and then different names show up in that column).

     

    I am guessing that column is for godparents, but I don't want to tell my cousin that and be wrong.

     

    Thanks!

     

    ETA if the resolution isn't good enough on here, here they are in a dropbox folder:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/9gy1ybefdzqyb6t/1896-07-05SterculaJohnBaptismRecord.jpg?dl=0

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/8vj7izs1p82tmos/1898-09-18LofayMariaBaptismRecord.jpg?dl=0

  2. Those are big discrepancies. Dh has only tested with one place so far.

     

     

    If you look at my ancestry breakdown from FTDNA in the OP and 23andme and few posts back, they're pretty different. I definitely feel like 23andme had a more accurate breakdown given what I know. However there were the weird discrepancies between my mother and me after phasing that I noted as well as her maternal haplogroup being different from mine and from what she got at FTDNA. I have been happy with the DNA match service at both sites. It's been extremely accurate at predicting relationships with the people I know what our relationships are. The only issue there has been guessing at a closer relationship than is true for people with whom I match on multiple lines, which I would expect to happen.

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    Thanks for updating, it will be very interesting to see what your 23andMe results show when they come in.

    Okay, 23and me results are in for both my mother and me, and I copied them as they were before phasing and again after.

     

    Before phasing, my mom:

    European 99.7%

    -Northwestern European 96.8%

    --British and Irish 56.5%

    --French and German 9.2%

    --Scandinavian 1.6%

    --Broadly Northwestern European 29.5%

    -Southern European 1.0%

    --Iberian 0.6%

    --Broadly Southern European 0.4%

    -Broadly European 1.9%

    Middle Eastern and North Africa 0.3%

    -North African <0.1%

    -Broadly Middle Eastern and North Africa 0.3%

     

    Before phasing, me:

    European 99.8%

    -Northwestern European 72.8%

    --British and Irish 22.9%

    --French and German 10.7%

    --Scandinavian 0.6%

    --Broadly Northwestern European 38.7%

    -Eastern European 15.4%

    -Southern European 1.4%

    --Balkan 0.5%

    --Broadly Southern European 0.4%

    -Ashkenazi Jewish 1.2%

    -Broadly European 0.9%

    Middle Eastern and North Africa 0.2%

    -North African 0.1%

    -Broadly Middle Eastern and North Africa <0.1%

     

    After phasing, mom:

    European 100%

    -Northwestern European 97.2%

    --British and Irish 57.9%

    --French and German 11.7%

    --Scandinavian 3.3%

    --Broadly Northwestern European 24.2%

    -Eastern European 1.2%

    -Broadly European 1.6%

     

    After phasing, me:

    European 99.8%

    -Northwestern European 68.9%

    --British and Irish 35.4%

    --French and German 7.4%

    --Scandinavian 4.5%

    --Broadly Northwestern European 21.6%

    -Eastern European 22.3%

    -Southern European 5.4%

    --Balkan 4.7%

    --Sardinian 0.5%

    --Broadly Southern European 0.3%

    -Ashkenazi Jewish 1.2%

    -Broadly European 2.%

    Middle Eastern and North Africa 0.2%

    -North African 0.2%

     

    Then for what came from father vs. mother it has this (which makes no sense since her North African and Southern European were taken away after phasing but they say I inherited it from her):

     

    Father on left, Mother on right

    BE59C3E9-B1C5-4445-B270-DAC5CC5A381C.png

     

    The other anomaly is that she was typed as haplogroup K1a2a with familytreedna and I was typed as that with 23andme, but 23andme typed her as K1a1. Yet, they knew she was my mother. Why do they have her with a different haplogroup?

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  4. The deep roots of the Irish people go back to the Iberian peninsula, but I'm thinking that their modern admixture is primarily represented by FTDNA's British Isles cluster. Kathryn, I hope you come back and report when your 23andMe results come in because I am quite curious :)

     

    Here is a description of each of FTDNA's genetic admixture clusters:

    https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/ftdna/myorigins-population-clusters/

    My 23andme results haven't come in yet, but my mom's came in today (and her ftdna ones haven't come back yet). Her 23andme was exactly what you'd expect (97% northwestern European) and she matched as aunt of her nephew and with a second cousin on her dad's side and one on her mom's side. Assuming the Southern European comes back on mine at 23andme also, I guess that would mean it had to come in through my dad's mom since my dad's dad would account for all of my Eastern European.

     

    My grandma's mom was born in Japan to missionaries. The dad was of French Huguenot and British background, the mom of old New England families. My grandma's dad was born to a mother whose parents were Belgian and German and a father (who abandoned the family before his birth) from Germany. The mother died of opioid addiction when he was a baby, his older siblings were sent to live with family, and the elderly upstairs neighbors raised him. I assume this is the most likely place for tomfoolery to come into the picture.

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  5. Did you make a bar model?

     

    I'd probably make a model that looks initially like:

     

    (---------------105-----------)

    (------X-----)(-----X-----)(-.1X-)

     

    Then I'd change it all to a new variable equal to .1X, so the bottom bar would become:

     

    (------10Y-----)(-----10Y-----)(--Y--)

     

    From there, you would do:

    105 / 21 = 5

    Angle SAY = 10 Y = 50°

    Angle HAS = 11Y =55°

     

     

    ETA: I'm using the word variable here- I think it's been introduced already in 6, but if not, it's more about intuition once you see the bar model that you need 21 pieces in total.

    Thank you! This works. I could only think of making two equations

    A+B=105

    A=1.1B

    And then solving from there.

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  6. The deep roots of the Irish people go back to the Iberian peninsula, but I'm thinking that their modern admixture is primarily represented by FTDNA's British Isles cluster. Kathryn, I hope you come back and report when your 23andMe results come in because I am quite curious :)

     

    Here is a description of each of FTDNA's genetic admixture clusters:

    https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/ftdna/myorigins-population-clusters/

    I will! I can report that my father will not be getting tested. I emailed to ask him if he'd ever done one or would do one. He apparently is "unimpressed with commercial DNA tests that purport to predict meds for things like depression" so thinks ancestry ones are stupid. Okay. Well, my mom bought the 23andme one as well, so I suppose that will help at least.

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  7. Gardenmom5 I hope you don't feel like we were all piling on your post!

     

    I know one thing that has proven true on average in genetic population studies is that geographic proximity almost always equates to genetic similarity. So populations in Scandinavia, Britain, France, Germany, etc. have a lot in common genetically. This makes it very hard to distinguish between them in DNA analysis and personal ethnicity analyses are always considered speculative when you get down to distinguishing between nationalities in the same general region.

    Definitely. That's why the Scandinavian in my test wasn't all that, uh, surprising, because I know that he similarities in that region make it hard to distinguish and pinpoint areas. But, the 30% Southern European is a mystery! I'm interested to see what 23andme comes back with. I have a first cousin on my mom's side that did 23andme. He just showed me his results. Northwestern European categories added up to 96.1%, while Southern European was 1.6%.
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  8. they were from normandy.

     

    this is from the wikipedia summary.:

    The Norman conquest of England was the 11th century invasion and occupation of England by an army of Norman, Breton, and French soldiers led by Duke William II of Normandy, later styled as William the Conqueror.

     

     

    there had been two invasion forces, from two completely different areas, in two different parts of england. the first one, in the north, was repelled. that also meant the english forces were in the north when william came and received very little resistance.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normans

     

    "The Normans (Norman: Nourmands; French: Normands; Latin: Normanni) were the people who, in the 10th and 11th centuries, gave their name to Normandy, a region in France. They were descended from Norse ("Norman" comes from "Norseman"[1]) raiders and pirates from Denmark, Iceland and Norway who, under their leader Rollo, agreed to swear fealty to King Charles III of West Francia.[2] Through generations of assimilation and mixing with the native Frankish and Gallo-Roman populations, their descendants would gradually adopt the Carolingian-based cultures of West Francia, ultimately resulting in their own assimilation into the Romance society.[3] The distinct cultural and ethnic identity of the Normans emerged initially in the first half of the 10th century, and it continued to evolve over the succeeding centuries.[4]"

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  9. I have not, but plan to, eventually. From what I have read, it would help to have your mother's mother do one as well as your father's father, trying to reach back into the gene pool as far as possible, they say. If you don't have a mother or grandmother but maybe mother's sister or even brother, same for the paternal side.

     

    I also read that the more generations that go by without it testing, the more "watered down" the results get. I'd prefer charts and graphs than reading explanations, with maps, please.

     

    Did you try to guess what the results would be before you read your results?

    My mom did one but her results aren't due for another two weeks. Her parents are alive but are very old and confused and 1,000 miles away. My dad's parents died a long time ago. I might ask him to do one depending on my mom's results. I did order a 23andme test last night. I'm interested to see if another company has similar results. I can get on board with the Scandinavian, but the Southern Europe is just so out there.

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  10. people moved around. you might be surprised how much german dna is in england. or viking dna (re: scandinavian) in scotland. a lot of french in england too. going back centuries. e.g. the normans were french.

     

    some linguistic eytimology indicates russian comes from a corruption of a viking word. (again - Scandinavian)

     

    eta: and then it will vary how the dna carries down the line. dh is 1/4 armenian. he's extremely fair, blue-eyed redhead. he got a lot more of the western european dna. his brother was also 1/4 armenian. he had olive skin, black hair and black eyes. he got more of the armenian dna. I guess my point is dh didn't have much armenian to pass along.

    and germans did a lot of settling in different places - they were in russia under catherine the great. (she was german.)

    It just seems weird that of the dozens of *different* lines that I can trace back to the British Isles and Central/Western Europe, none show up, and instead I'm 3/4 other stuff.

  11. Did you feel your results were accurate?

     

    I just got mine back and am really surprised. I got 100% European which wasn't unexpected. But, the breakdown was strange.

     

    42% Scandinavian

    30% Southern European

    28% Eastern European (totally expected, paternal grandfather is from Ukraine)

     

    The top two results I literally have no clue where they could have come from. Literally everyone else besides my paternal grandfather in my paper trail was from the British Isles and Central/Western Europe (France, Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland, Germany). I know these are options because DH got two-thirds British Isles and and one-third Western/Central Europe. My mom has another couple of weeks on hers and now I'm really interested in what hers is going to come back with. Could it be really off? Or are there LOTS of secrets in both sides of my family tree?

  12. She doesn't nap and has been potty-trained for over a year.

     

    They can't stay with us. We have a standard room and my mom is coming, so already four in the room.

     

    He's now booked! I think it's probably best he do it. He's better at being flexible, and you're right, following her lead will be best. I think it'll be more fun without her big brothers rolling their eyes too.

     

    The fast passes for the Frozen ride are obviously gone, but you're right, she won't know the difference if they don't end up doing it.

     

    He's excited. I can't count the number of times he's told me how his father always promised to take him to Disney World and never did (I've never been either). He even called his dad to see if he wanted to go with them, but he said no. :(

  13. In less than two weeks, I'm taking our sons to Universal. DH was going to stay home with our youngest, but she has recently discovered Disney princesses and now he's thinking about driving down with us and taking her to DW.

     

    The boys never had any interest in that so I know next to nothing. I need any and all advice on this. He's looking at staying at the Art of Animation resort for four nights with park hopper passes for three days, Friday through Sunday. She's only two and a half and there'll be just one adult.

     

    Can anyone tell me good websites for information or just tell me anything I need to know? I'm such a planner (the Universal trip has been a year of planning) so this is giving me major anxiety.

  14. The original Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find them book is not this story; it is written as though it were the textbook the HP kids use at Hogwarts. I do not think the storyline of the movie is available as a book, or not at present.

    Pottermore is selling a screenplay ebook.

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  15. I took my 11, 7, and 2yo. We were all fine. :) It depends on your kids though. I think you'd be fine if Star Wars or the Harry Potter movies were okay.

     

    I also took my mom, who always falls asleep at movies. This was the first movie she didn't fall asleep for since I've been an adult. And she doesn't know a thing about Harry Potter, so it's not like she was excited for this.

     

    I thought it was great and so did the kids.

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  16. Can anyone explain this to me? My identity was stolen and used to open multiple accounts in July. I caught it a week later. My credit score went down 40 points. It took a month, but I got everything taken off, even the inquiries. So, my credit now looks exactly like it did before. But, my score has only gone up 2 points. It's been two months since it was resolved. Why is it not back where it was?

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  17. If I had a child who had inappropriate social behavior -- and I do, though he is younger, so the situations haven't escalated that way -- I would want the other mom to tell me what was going on.

     

    So yes, talk to the mom.

     

    Sorry. I'm glad your DD is so kind, though.

    Exactly this.

  18. We're watching it as a family. Besides DH's interjections about how this is stupid because they should just go back and kill/kidnap the bad guy as a baby and nip it in the bud, we're enjoying it.

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