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Another vote for iPads over Dragon. It's much easier to use. We started using apps to create documents, but what worked best for DS was to dictate a document, then email it to a PC for editing.
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Check out the SocialThinking.com website. There are tons of free articles, maybe you can get some ideas. I have seen these products used in small groups and whole public school classrooms. It might be more than you need, but it really breaks these (and many other) social skills down.
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On 4/9/2018 at 4:52 PM, HTRMom said:
Surely a kid who reads fluently could be allowed to read quietly during reading lessons. At least you would hope.
He might be able to do this, but may not receive any reading instruction at school. Problems this may cause include creative pronunciation and incorrectly inferred definitions, even with above grade level reading and comprehension. Some examples I have seen:
- DS calling DD "ignorant" repeatedly, because she was ignoring him.
- pronouncing grotesque as grot-es-cue during a middle school presentation.
It's great when kids learn independently, but sometimes they need a little guidance. Consider being prepared to work on reading at home through elementary, if he goes to school.
If he is still driven to learn, teach him about dinosaurs, the latin names for every plant in your neighborhood, get a "Gray's Anatomy" coloring book and learn all the parts of the body. Anything but the standard school curriculum. Its boring enough once through for gifted kids, the second time can kill a love of learning.
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For my DD, she has always been very social, but didn't have super close peer friends until middle school. She preferred adults and older kids. In 6th she moved to a school with many kids who were both age & academic peers. Its been a very positive experience, that I only really appreciated in hindsight. Now she has friends in a wide range of ages, and a wide range of academic abilities.
My DS has always had good friends his own age, and they have always found common interests. That said, he has been gravitating towards friendships with math/academic peers in the last 2 years. He still has his old friends, but needs this "special-interest" group now.
I think each kid is so unique, it really just depends whether they need similar aged friends. But I do think there is value in ensuring gifted kids have access (online, camp, etc.) to other kids with similar age & ability, if possible, even if they don't become BFF's.
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Most colleges will prefer 4 years of high school math for a STEM admission, even if calculus is complete. I’m assuming that’s where you are headed. Some ideas:
- AoPS classes in Counting and probability, or Number theory are excellent, and could be done before or after pre-Calc. Has your son done the intro levels for these classes?
- AoPS intermediate algebra and pre-Calc cover materials not found in most other curriculum. These could allow you to go “deeper” into the topics if your son is interested, since he has the time.
- AP statistics is another option. My science-loving DD really benefitted from taking this before Calc, too help with understanding data analysis in experiments.
- After AP Calculus, there is always DE or online classes in multi variable calculus, differential equations, discrete math.
Here is an article, explaining far better than I can, the reasons to take other classes before Calculus. https://artofproblemsolving.com/articles/calculus-trap
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Thanks for the great info everyone.
Jouful - my DS was in the same pre-Calc class as yours, and will be in the fall Calc class too. Small world.
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3 hours ago, whangty said:
I was just wondering how much of these benefits can be realized at a "beginner" class like prealgebra 1 or 2. My thinking was my son would finish a couple of books on his own for a while, and as he gets more advanced, he might start taking online classes, at which point he might be better positioned to take full advantage of what the aops online community offers. Do you think the benefits of the aops online community are still significant even for a class like prealgebra 1 or 2?
My DS's first online class was Algebra A, and I think the benefit was there, certainly for him. He was older than your DS when he started, but in hindsight, I think he would have been fine 1-2 years earlier, if only I knew AoPS existed. Math was a strength, but writing and social skills were not. Challenging problems were also, well, challenging. Online classes really addressed all of these, really well.
I'm not sure DS takes "full" advantage of the online community even now. But the benefits have been there all along, and continue to grow with my child.
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The textbooks are well writing for a student to learn independently, and you can certainly master the material without using their classes. Alcumus is also available for free, so if you wish to include it in self-studying the material, you don’t need the classes. My DS started with self-studying pre-algebra, but after he tried the classes, he was hooked.
Reasons why AoPS classes are worth the cost:
- feedback on written problems/proofs - this alone meets my value threshold.
- online community - a chance to collaborate with others. Also a very well moderated online forum to learn digital citizenship skills.
- an outside schedule - this could be a plus or minus for you, but it motivates my DS to stay on track.
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And, if your student took the CHSPE, as of that date, they are not considered a high schooler anymore.
Passing the CHSPE does not automatically graduate you from high school.
There are students at my DD's public high school who are still enrolled after passing the CHSPE, because they only wanted it for CC enrollment priority. In order to leave high school, students under 18 years old must pass the CHPSE - AND - have parental permission to stop attending. So the parent doesn't consent, kid is still enrolled in high school.
Passing the CHSPE does not, by itself, exempt minors from attending school. Minors who have a Certificate of Proficiency must also have verified parent/guardian permission to stop attending school. Many students who pass the CHSPE continue to attend school. State law provides that, if you leave school after passing the CHSPE and are no more than 18 years old, you may reenroll in the district in which you were registered with no adverse consequences. If you do reenroll you may be required to meet new or additional requirements established since you were previously enrolled. If you reenroll and then leave school again, you may be denied re-admittance until the beginning of the following semester. Contact your guidance counselor or school administrator for further information and details about leaving school after passing the CHSPE.edited to fix typo-
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The rules to register are enrolled in 10th grade for a year, or 16. So if you plan to take it "early", you need to provide school paperwork that says student will complete a full year of 10th the season of the CHSPE. Easiest done with a PSA, most charters that I am familiar with are not flexible enough with grade level designations.
So my PSA rules, since I made them, allow for DS (9th) to be classified as a sophomore by credits, but not graduate early. I counted HS level math and spanish from 7-8th grades, which local PS & UC's do. So his class standing including the 4 credits from middle school allows him to be a 10th grader now, completing the 1 year requirement in the fall when he takes the CHSPE. He can't graduate early, since he will only take 1 english credit a year, and I require 4 for graduation. :hurray:
It's all about bending the rules to suit your needs.
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Ds is taking Intro to CS with edhesive, started in Jan.
I think the 1 semester option is to just do the first half of the course. Since we stared late in the year, we weren’t sure if he could do the entire course by June, but pricing was the same. Both options “expire†in June.
The course starts at the beginning...no previous experience required. In fact, Ds complained that it started out too slow/easy. I liked the easy first assignments to learn the platform.
Ds has almost no programming experience, just a little Minecraft. He has not needed any outside help yet. The class does have a forum for enrolled students to work together, but we haven’t explored that yet.
We are planning AP CS with edhesive next year (10th), and this course seems like a good intro so far.
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We are having the same issue for my 9th grade ds this year, using Avancemos, the Spanish text by the same publisher. One thing I learned from the TE was that the last 2 units/chapters of Level 1 are fully covered in Level 2. The other units have spiraling as well. I understand that the French books have a similar format.
So we spent 10 weeks completing Level 1, and now are in the Level 2 book. I plan to complete 3/4 of the Level 2 book, and credit this whole year as Spanish 3-4.
The expectation at my dd's public school (she had the same course in B&M middle) is that students will eventually pick it up. Not sure if they do, or just drop foreign lang. Having her tutor ds for about 1 hour a week has helped her Spanish 7-8 grade immensely.
So check between the book levels for Bien Dit! for significant review and spiraling. You might not be as far behind as you think.
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Hey, it's our first holiday gf & cf. I made pumpkin bread tonight and it was yummy. From http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2010/09/gluten-free-tuesday-pumpkin-bread-recipe.html. The other website I am drooling over is http://glutenfreegoddess.blogspot.com. She has tons of thanksgiving tips and recipes.
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I would love to use butter, yummmmm, but family allergies overrule. I use cold pressed extra virgin coconut oil, which is delicious, all natural and healthy.
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Dd9 read them last year. Her PS teacher started it as RA, and she finished the series at home. Dh had already read them, so he handled discussing. But she loved them and didn't have any issues, after talking the mature themes out with dh.
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Has your daughter done any weaving before? Try making a cardboard loom or using a potholder loom if not. Then this is an excellent upgrade. You may want to see if a local yarn/knitting shop carries them as they may offer free advice and lessons (sometimes free, usually not). That is also a great place to buy refill supplies.
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Ds used it for additional practice/fun in 1st grade. He moved quickly, beginning at 1.0 and got to 3.54 during our subscription (1 year?). I found it to be a strong program, the aforementioned logic issues were the only problems. Most kids need additional work, and some pencil & paper work to really get this math. So I wouldn't love it as a stand alone, but it was a great fit for us.
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I agree with farrarwilliams that great boy books already exist. You don't need to go back to the Hardy Boys for adventure. The Magic Tree House series offers great gender-neutral historical adventure for early chapter books, plus the study guides rock. Then there are all of Roald Dahl's books, a little more high brow than Captain Underpants, but tons of boy appeal. While I'm plugging my son's faves, Gordon Korman also scores pretty high.
I just don't see the novelty or appeal of this new series.
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Math Dice by Think Fun (other brands avail too)
The Allowance Game from Lakeshore Learning
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It sounds like you are heading in the right direction. More vocalization and echolalia are the steps toward meaningful speech. Your son may not be making choices yet, but giving them often is the best way to get him to make decisions.
Progress is often erratic with therapy. I know it's very hard for me to be patient and let my son's skills emerge on his schedule. I could have sworn ds8 wasn't making any progress for months last spring, then in a 2 week period he learned to catch a ball, ride a bike, jump into a pool and swim to the side, tie his shoes and eat with a knife. Obviously he was learning all of these skills over time, and they just clicked all at once.
Give your son time, and celebrate the small accomplishments too. I think any increase in language is a very positive sign.
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Dd9 quit last month. Ortho made a signed contract w/her that if in 3 weeks at her next appt she hadn't quit, she would give him her lovey. It was signed by her and every hygienist then she was promised treats if she quit and told about rubbing a jalapeño on her fingers. She cried for a few min. At office, but made me take her to the store on the way home. She did it herself every night for 1 week, and hasn't looked back.
It was a little more tough love than I usually go for, but the results were immediate. We had tried everything else you mentioned at 6 & 8 yo, so I was a little desperate. I think it helped that I wasn't the enforcer.
Dd is not ASD, but a smidge SID + drama queen. Ds is ASD.
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http://Http://www.firstinmath.com is outstanding, worth the $30 annual fee.
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Dd9 uses the 3000 series at her PS, did book 4 last year in 4th grade, started book 5 last week. In the 3000 series, book number is grade level. I do think they are challenging at those levels, and might start 1level below current grade in the older elem or higher. Last year teacher alternated WW one week & spelling alt. weeks, which I liked. Each lesson is split into 5 activities, so 1/day worked well. overall a good program, and very self-explanatory books, I doubt you need teacher's manuals.
The non-3000 series is older, formatted differently, but still produced mostly for those who started with it to continue, I think. I have no exp here.
AoPS Precalculus
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DS took this last year. He actually thought it was easier than Intermediate Algebra (easyER, not easy!) He did need an extension the last week of class, so that one must have been harder.
The best resource for extra help we found was the online forum. Classmates and teachers responded, usually very promptly, with helpful hints and tips