:iagree: We will be doing yr 4 in 7th grade, whew!

Yes, go look at the samples, with the grid, and 2nd-3rd grade supplement schedule is included in the grid. And if you did choose to go this route you would definitely want to use this supplement. Year 4 delves into some more mature topics like WW1 and 2.

1850-Mod is for 4-8 graders. It will be a little meatier with outlining, writing, and heavier topics as you get into WW 1 and 2. I do know that if you go with MFW they will automatically suggest you start in ECC before you go into the 4 yr history cycle. Which makes sense, but then again you can do whatever you think is a better fit for you and your students. We love all MFW products! MFW is AWESOME! HTH Katherine

I have a 2nd and 3rd grader this year. MFW has been a life saver for me, and it is VERY laid out. You can go to the site www.mfwbooks.com and see samples of the lesson plans, and how it's laid out. At the beginning of every week, there is a grid for the week, followed by written out instructions for each day of the week, as well as, a list of supplies that you'll need. This list is things that you will probably already have on hand. On the grid I just pencil in whatever extras we need to do. Like last year when we were doing ADV and MFW 1st grade together. It looks like for the next school year you will have a 4th grader, 2nd grader, and K'er. The K'er can do MFW K, or whatever else you have for them. MFW always will place your children in ECC before you go thru the chronological history cycle. This is good because the program is for 4-8 grade and 2nd graders with an older sibling in the program. SO that would be a great fit. We are doing ECC this year and it is wonderful! In yrs 2-4 of the history cycle SOTW is scheduled. So you won't be missing out on that. I also like that you can go with MFW suggestions for LA and Math, but you could also choose to do the WTM recommendations, or whatever, as well. We do ECC with FLL, Saxon, Writing Strands, and Spelling Workout (which is an excellent program to use if you are combining students). Believe me, this is quite a well rounded program and thorough too! Hope this helps! Katherine

I agree with the others who said that the program is thorough and enough. I did omit the math portion and go with Saxon. I went with Saxon because it was a great fit for us, and MFW uses it in the upper grades. I would also suggest Singapore because that's what is recommended in the early years of MFW. For extra reading, use the library recommendations in back of the TM, and Honey for a Child's Heart to your advantage. We have done MFW 1st, ADV, and ECC and the longer I stay with MFW, the more comfortable I am with their recommendations, and I don't think I will ever feel like I need to supplement with anything if I'm committed to do each program exactly as it is laid out. The longer I've been with MFW it's been easier to trust the bigger picture. Hope this helps

My DD (8) has always struggled with Spelling and Reading, but I guess it's a developmental thing for her as well. Just in the past couple of weeks it's like a switch turned on and she's spelling well, and reading. She has actually picked up books and read them on her on, out of her own free will! :001_smile: Just keep plotting along and do the best that you can do, and it will come. I think around the third grade it just magically happens!

:iagree: we like Explorer's and CLP Studying God's Word series.

Is there anywhere where I can see a video sample of this. I looked on the DIVE website, CBD, and Youtube but couldn't find it.

WOW! This really spoke to me. Sounds like some of the things I've faced this year. This has been a very hard yr for me personally, and on top of that, I deal with whining, and being behind in our work by about half the year in MFW. There has literally been times they whine so bad, I just stop, walk away, and go get on Facebook. Pathetic huh? We are OK with core subjects, but my DD is ending 2nd grade soon and is still on a 1st grade reading level. I also am having to look for a part-time job. So I have really considered putting them in PS. But I just don't know if I can do it. It sure would be a relief, but do I really want to take the easy way out? Some times I wished my kids could go to PS for a couple of weeks so they could see how wonderful their homeschooling is. i feel sure they would come crying home:D

If you are only changing up the math I don't see that it would be that much of a big deal. Especially if it's Singapore, the same program that MFW recommends in the other years. It kinda makes sense to me. In the WTM SWB talks about how important it is to stick with the same math curriculum from start to finish because math programs build on each other. :001_smile:

;):tongue_smilie:Don't you just love this forum? It always gives you something to think about, and second guess yourself. But I appreciate all the help everyone gives!

PLL/WS would be my vote. We have done MFW and chose Saxon for math and the recommendations from WTM for LA (SWO, FLL, and WWE) it is way too much for us. Very time consuming. We have used MFW 1st grade, Adv, and ECC and the more I've used MFW the more I trust their recommendations and see in hind sight how it all fits nicely together and in a timely manner based on the child's age and stage. I wished I would have done all MFW recommendations from the beginning because I feel that our experience would have been more joyful, and not drudgery. Being caught up and not always behind because the kiddos fade before we get everything done. I've learned less is more! For Sure!

We have been trying to do MFW 1st and ECC at the same time along with Saxon Math, and WTM LA recommendations. I have to tell you, it has been A LOT! If I had to do it all over again, I would do the MFW math and all their recommendations. It has been too much for me and my kiddos and we have suffered thru LONG days, and lots of tears. I can't imagine throwing the responsibilities of a baby in the mix! Yikes! The most important thing I've learned in our home school journey is that less is more! :001_smile:

We did their MFW 1st grade program and it was WONDERFUL! The bible lessons highlight the major stories of the bible, and includes a character study from Proverbs. You memorize a proverb scripture, use if for penmanship, and discuss how to apply it to your life. But this is all wrapped up in a reading program as well. So I don't know if this would fit with what you are looking for. It is a wonderful program.:001_smile:

Thank you for sharing that list. We are still in ECC but I like getting excited about the years to follow!;)

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OK, if I could go back and edit the thread title I would.....:D

Going for two weeks...my sister lives in Dublin, we will have her car. I guess we will use the ferry from Dublin over to England. She used to live right outside of London so she can navigate there pretty well. As far as Paris--I don't know...

Going in Sept to visit my sister in Ireland, she's taking me to London and Paris also. I've never been out of the country, please tell me what I need to see, I'll be taking dd 8yrs and want to do some things that she will always remember too!:001_smile:

Has anyone heard when the revised FLL 2 will be released? I don't want to pre-order from Amazon...don't need that hassle. :glare:

OK! Thanks for the quick replies! I'm just going to stick with it! Thank you!!!

Yes, that helps! Thank you! Do you think this is too much writing for my son? He is working a year ahead. So this coming school yr he will be 9 in 3rd grade using Saxon 5/4?

I am getting ready to purchase the Saxon 5/4 Homeschool Kit. I have a question about the "tests and worksheets" part of the kit. Is this worksheets for EVERY lesson, like Saxon 1-3? I guess my question is...will my child have to write out the daily problems on a separate sheet of paper, or is there a workbook to fill in?

Now that would solve A LOT of health problems in the US! Give us free-roaming organic meats that have been vegetarian/grass fed! And an end to toxic grains, legumes and dairy! WOW! You can tell I'm a Paleo Diet advocate, huh?:D