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  1. I was trying to figure this out looking on line but could not find a clear answer on adverbials vs adv phrase or adjectival vs adjective phrase. One site said that some use it interchangeably but another said there is a slight difference not really give clarity why. Can someone please help me understand the difference if any?

  2. Vintage81, fourisenough, TeaCookiesBears, and desertflower : Why do you like Mystery Science? And, do you think it would work for slightly older kids too (like around 3rd/4th grade level?) or do you think it's just mainly for younger kids.

    Vintage81 responded better I could I used it with my 5th grader last year along with outside resources when she wanted more information on a particular topic.

  3. TeaCookiesBear, I haven't forgotten about posting some info about NVLD and nonverbal reasoning, but I've been super busy. Three of my four kids are off to a week-long camp tomorrow, so we've been packing, and doing last-minute shopping, and supervising them cleaning their rooms, so that they don't leave a mess behind them when they leave.

     

    For DS13, I packed all of his separate components in labeled ziplock bags, so that he has a hope of finding things in his duffle when he needs them. So he has each day's clothes together in a baggie, his swim things together in a baggie, his toiletries together, etc. And everything has been labeled with his name, even the toothpaste, because otherwise he will lose it. (That's the ADHD, more than the NVLD). That's not really important, except that it is a small example of the kind of support that he needs, which is more than what my other kids require.

     

    Anyway, I will try to post some things about Nonverbal Learning Disorder soon. I'm in no way an expert, but I've found that my understanding has grown more and more. When DS got his diagnosis, I had never even heard of NVLD, and I've gathered a lot of information since then.

     

    DS13 really fits into the profile exactly -- I think because his case is on the severe end. Not everyone who has a nonverbal learning disorder profile will have identical issues. You may recognize your child in some things but not in others. And some of the related issues may seem irrelevant now but become significant effects at older ages (this is a hallmark trait of NVLD, that it becomes more pronounced as the person grows older).

     

    I'll try to gather some info together soon.

    I had to step a way to get my head around everything but I am looking forward to reading up on the NVLD when you get the chance to post.

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    Are you doing anything now that needs pressing changes?

    Yes, how I react to things she does that is tied her having autism. I admit have been really hard on her when came to her forgetfulness, avoidance etc. I have stepped in helping her in social situations before the diagnosis because I saw that was a problems before the evaluation. Dd has been hanging around other introverted kids and adults because she feels they operate on the same way length as she does and it has helped. I see her actively trying to interact without fear.

  5. We have a guest at our home today, so I won't have time to write much until later.

     

    But yes, I agree with OhElizabeth. There isn't a reason to think that you will need additional evaluations for the learning disabilities and the NVLD. It's clear that she has a math disability from those scores, and the report should include the math disability.

     

    As far as NVLD, they already told you that she has it when they said she has trouble with nonverbal reasoning. Same thing.

     

    I'll try to explain more about NVLD later, but if you want to learn more in the meantime, you can just google it.

     

    Ok, thank you I think I am getting it now.

  6. TeaCookiesBears, my advice to you is to wait for the report and call the doctor's office directly for clarifications and further info. Keep at the back of your mind that we are a group of moms sharing what we have learned from our own personal experience with our own kids. We do not have the qualifications to advise you on anything, especially when there's anxiety and depression in the mix. It's good to learn from others' experience but the doctors have the degrees for a reason.

     

    Canadian Mom of 2.  I think you are right I need to wait for the full evaluation which may give a little bit more information and recommendations that the pre-report did not give. During this time I am going to research somethings and use this time to calm down and regroup. The one thing that was advised and I agree with is getting dd help with her anxiety and depression now. 

     

    And I really do appreciate all the ideas and advice because they have given me a lot to think about. 

  7. Wow, Story really nailed it! Those visual spatial scores are way lower than everything else. Have you thought about taking her to a developmental optometrist to get her eyes checked?

     

    Google, but I don't think psychotherapy is considered as effective for autism. If you go to the SocialThinking.com website, they have tons of great stuff.

     

    It looks like I have a lot of researching to do like looking up what exactly is psychotherapy.

     

    The lady who evaluated dd suggested psychotherapy to help dd develop coping skills for her depression, anxiety, flexibility and social skills. Could they suggested this because she is high functioning or is that this is what the suggest to new diagnosed cases?

     

     

    Ok, here what I am planning to do please tell me if this is a good start. On the medical side talk to her doctor to see about getting other tests done on learning disabilities, cognitive Behavioral therapy, developmental optometrist, psychotherapy and Nonverbal learning disorder. The other is to work on her social, depression and anxiety through some type of therapy. Also, I was told that the full evaluation takes 4-6 weeks should I wait to see if they have other recommendations or go on?

     

    Phase two is the academic work which consist of I have yet to figure that out. So, if I understand correctly I need to work on her visual spatial skills first and this can be done by going to socialthinking.com? I do have to book for her age group that work on that will that be a good start? 

  8. It's late, so I won't post much now. I'll try to come back and add more later.

     

    But while you are waiting for the report, it may help you to read online about Nonverbal Learning Disorder. This diagnosis is not in the DSM5, so may practitioners will not diagnose it. However, your description of her scores fits the profile, so you may learn a lot about her needs by reading about NVLD.

     

    And it's hard to say, because math difficulties can come in many forms, but I agree with OhElizabeth that the memory may not be the issue. With nonverbal reasoning weaknesses (in other words, the NVLD), the math disability is related to the poor visual spatial abilities and trouble with understanding math concepts.

     

    Storygirl thank you. I went to the doctors office to drop of the pre-report to the dr and asked her to call me so that i can ask her about getting other test done. I hope she will call me back today. 

  9. Wow, Story really nailed it! Those visual spatial scores are way lower than everything else. Have you thought about taking her to a developmental optometrist to get her eyes checked?

     

    Google, but I don't think psychotherapy is considered as effective for autism. If you go to the SocialThinking.com website, they have tons of great stuff.

     

    I am going to check that site of a little later today to see what will be able to help her. Thanks for looking over the scores. I will have to check but I remember having to see one sometime ago if I am thinking of the right optometrist. I will have to look again and see but i will say for the past several years she has had to see a special optometrist because her prescriptions are strong. 

     

    What does it mean when visual spatial scores are that low?

     

    ETA: I just went to social thinking.com and wow they have a lot of things that looks like it will be a great help to dd.

  10. For some reason it will not let me upload this file even though it is way under required size. 

     

    Mathematics Composite: Standard is 71 hers is 3

    Numerical operations  78 hers is 7

    Math Problem Solving  66 hers is 1

    Math Fluency: Standard is 72 hers is 3

    Math Fluency Addition 81 hers is 10

    Math Fluency Subtraction 76 hers is 5

    Math Fluency Multiplication 65 hers is 1

    Placing her grade levels at grades 2 or 3

     

     

     

     

     

  11. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy is a form of psychotherapy, but if the doctor has given you specific recommendations, I would follow that. Anxiety and depression diagnoses are definitely something to take seriously!

     

    Psychotherapies (National Institute of Mental Health)

    https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/psychotherapies/index.shtml

     

    Ditto on the social skills recommendations, especially when you are dealing with social anxiety.

     

    Being in Canada, a lot is regulated, so for example I can look at the autism registry to ensure the therapy center therapists are on the registry showing they are qualified to work with kids on the spectrum. They already have it in their profiles in their center's website if they are but I double check anyway.

     

    Hope you find the best resources and therapy providers for your girl! We just went through the evaluation process again as well. Tons to do, I know! I wish you strength :)

     

    I went to the site you posted and I like the way they break down what is psychotherapy and what i should look for when looking for a therapist this is going to be a great help. I am going to look at this site over the weekend to get more understanding on everything. Thank you so much. 

  12. Right now my mind is all over the place as I am sure many of you have gone through. I really don't know where to begin dd in 3 grades behind in math which probably due to her low memory. I was told that her scores may been much lower if I did not have her do extra math 5x week and flash cards 5x week if I stay on her. The math programs I am using for her seems to be a good fit, rod and staff 3 with mep 2. Still, is there something I should do differently?

     

    How do I best build her memory without making her feel stupid doing what she deems as baby stuff? The only thing I know off the top of my head is to continue narration and dictation just more frequently. Also do I put other subjects on the back burner like science or history to concentrate more on subjects that she struggles with?

  13. Thank you Innisfree I will make sure to look around and ask question. The lady who test dd also runs the group which also has a 6 month waiting list. In the past I would get mad and fuss because I thought she was just being forgetful. I now know that it really was not her fault. Now I have to figure out how to feed her strengths while getting her to working on other things because of fears or struggles.

     

    OhElizabeth those are great suggestions I am going to look at the site you suggested and use the tip you gave.

    I have learned one thing over the years with dd is to do things when she is ready when she was younger she hated one on on social interaction and it did not help that there were no kids in the neighborhood to play with. Now that dd is older she has expressed interest and I have been working for the past year help dd in different social situations.

     

    Canadian Mom of 2 thanks for the tip I changed the title but I think I may change again. I am in the process of looking for a psychotherapist and social skill groups to work with dd as suggested by the evaluation.

  14. This may have been asked before and I thought I saw a posting about this but I am not sure. I am looking for old treads/posts or any advice or help. My question is what else should I being doing? Where do I go from here?

     

    My daughter who is now 11 had an evaluation June 27th for Austim. According to the evaluation she is ASD Level 1 Aka Asperbers with Depression, Anxiety, and a learning disability. The full report will be mailed to me in 4 to 6 weeks. They said that her MERLD is gone per say and I wish I could have explained it the way they did but I will not do it justice.

     

    Things that stick out to dr and I:

    Working memory is in the 16 percentile

    Visual Spacial 7 percentiile

    Math was between 2nd and 3rd grade Levels she is going in grade 6

    Deficit in non verbal reasoning

    Lacks social skills and understanding this in turn causes her anxiety, low self-concept, anger and depression to rise

     

     

    Talents / Skill are:

    Art( Drawing, Sculpting customizing dolls,creatures from rubber bands)

    Language specifically Grammar and Vocabulary

    Good with saving and money planning

    Reads 2 to 3 grades above reading level

     

    Things told that helps and will help:

    Psychotherapy

    Social groups by places like Kennedy Kreiger, Johns Hopkins etc

    Social activities like tennis etc

    Narration - said I should continue

    Math programs chosen seem to be a good fit. MEP and Rod and Staff along w/manipulatives

    Homeschooling is thought to be good for her.

    Interacting socially online has help but must be careful

    Consistency with more structure in certain areas.

  15. Here are weeks 23-29. I tried to upload the whole file but it was to big for the wtm file requirement.

     

    Summaries, Outlines, Topic Sentences

    Before the first class of the week:

    â— In WWS III , complete pp. 1-7, pp. 9-13, and pp. 17-33.

    Before the second class of the week:

    â— From Weeks 1-20 of this course, choose a completed composition that is at least

    500 words. It should be a composition with which you were not particularly

    satisfied after the first draft. The remainder of the assignment has four

    components. Using your own composition, 1) write a condensed narrative

    summary (no more than 20 words); 2) construct a 3-level outline; and 3) identify

    the topic sentences. The last step is to subject the composition to a substantial

    rewrite. Submit everything, including the original composition, to your journal.

    24 Narration by Significance

    Before the first class of the week:

    â— In WWS III , complete pp. 67-81 and pp. 82-87.

    Before the second class of the week:

    â— In WWS III , complete pp. 87-90.

    -- Spring Break

    25 Instructional and Experimental Sequences

    Before the first class of the week:

    â— In WWS III , complete pp. 113-119, pp. 128-129, and pp. 132-134.

    Before the second class of the week:

    â— In WWS III , complete pp. 134-136.

    26 Explanation by Cause and Effect in History

    Before the first class of the week:

    â— In WWS III , complete pp. 137-156.

    Before the second class of the week:

    â— In WWS III , complete pp. 159-168.

    27 Explanation by Cause and Effect in History / Science

    Before the first class of the week:

    â— In WWS III , complete pp. 169-172.

    Before the second class of the week:

    â— In WWS III , complete pp. 195-207.

    28 Explanation by Cause and Effect in Science

    Before the first class of the week:

    â— In WWS III , complete pp. 208-211 and 215-223 (*don't* write the composition)

    Before the second class of the week:

    â— In WWS III , complete pp. 223-226.

    29 Explanation by Cause and Effect (workshop) / Analysis and Review

    Before the first class of the week:

    ◠No homework—your workshop participation will determine your grade. Begin

    working on the next assignment.

    Before the second class of the week:

    â— In WWS III , complete pp. 275-288 and then begin brainstorming and researching

    for your final project.

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