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    Read in both English and Danish. Improve my ability to read in Danish. Claiming success.

    Start working on Russian with the long-term goal of reading in Russian. Not really. Deferred to 2018.




    ETA: I'm not up for typing the whole list right now. This post was a lot of work, lol. Maybe I will add it in later.


    Will Russian be a new language for you or does it just need brushing up? Congrats on the Danish progress!! 



    You did better with the list than I did! Here's my 2017 wrap up:


    I read bits and bobs about this and that.  ;)

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  2. Bringing over a Scoutermom quote from Dec. 2...

    I have finished my 52 book challenge! The 52nd book was What Made Maddy Run: the Secret Struggles and Tragic Death of an All-American Teen by Kate Fagan.


    The book is a good book about a serious and heartbreaking topic. If you have experience with depression, anxiety, or suicidal ideation I would think twice about reading this book as it could trigger negative thoughts and emotions.


    The book is insightful about the role of technology and modern societal expectations on young people. Obviously, much of what is discussed about this particular case is conjecture, pieced together through interviews, emails, and instant messages after the event but the author is respectful throughout and there is no victim shaming or survivor blaming. There were many times throughout the book in which I had to pause and reflect; my roles as DIII coach, college recruiter, and parent of young adults are all portrayed in the book. Once I became a coach I felt the weight of responsibility for my SAs and, now more than ever, that mantle is cumbersome.


    I sincerely wish all potential students, student-athletes, parents, and coaches could read this book. 


    Thanks so much for the recommendation. I had seen the book in the book store, but was on the fence until your recommendation. Your review and answers to my questions in the thread this quote is taken from were spot on. The book left me with much to think about on many levels. Thanks for the recommendation and for answering my questions.

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  3. The counselor told us that if DD did a piecemeal, she would not be able to say DD took the most challenging program, available to her-that was reserved for the kids who took the top programs in each-even if the sum total of what she took were higher classes.


    But she would be able to say that she lived life during those years on her own terms, with her own goals and strengths in mind. Slacking she was not. I'm pretty sure that will be obvious to anyone who actually reads her entire application. (If not, that school probably isn't a good fit anyway...)


    (To be clear... I'm not saying anyone who does IB isn't living life on their own terms and keeping in mind their own goals and strengths. I'm just saying that in this particular instance IB wasn't the right choice.)


    We looked into the IB route, but liked the flexibility APs offered. It was tempting, though! There are pros and cons to both paths. It can be a tough decision!

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  4. Yes!


    Know your kid...and yourself. Not every homeschool teacher is going to be able to handle the work involved in putting together and selling the eclectic transcript. Not every kid wants or needs to do much in the way of standardized testing. I've had one of each sort of student thus far. There are pros and cons, and not much one can do toward turning one sort of kid into the other sort of kid :-)


    We're just chatting here! :-) And back to the OP...your plan is fine!


    I agree. OP, your plan is fine. We're chatting and sharing experiences, all of which may not be entirely relevant to your situation. Take what helps and ignore the rest.  ;)

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  5. I am not sure why anyone feels the need to affirm their choices in why they have opted for what they have done with their kids. Obviously, your students' high school courses were very successful in setting them up for admissions to elite colleges. No need to defend that path. I am not saying that what we did was superior. It is just different and no regrets for not following the standard path.




    I don't read the posts as people doing anything different than what your posts are doing, which is not so much affirming their choices as explaining their choices. Sometimes it's helpful to see why people choose APs. It's also valid to note that they are not always part of the "rat race" that the OP mentioned. Sometimes even kids not aiming for selective schools take APs for various reasons. Understanding those reasons may help others to make a more informed decision. APs are not viewed the same way by everyone. They are not always a rat race, not always a soul-crushing stressor, not always a mindless choice, not always school at home. Making an informed decision often means looking at the issue from as many angles as possible. 

    If the student is not a good candidate for APs for whatever reason, then the best plan would not include them. Without knowing the OP's teen, the best we can do is to share our experiences with APs (good, bad, or indifferent) and let the OP filter those with a focus on the teen at hand.

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  6. Some boys (my DS and his best friend) need test scores such as AP to help them feel achievement in "competition" 

    neither are Math competition types - they tried


    I would add some girls too.  ;)


    Some students see the classes and tests as adrenaline rushes. Some students like to "check the boxes" of what schools want to see and spend lots of time pursuing other interests in their free time. It's not a burden to them. It's a joy. 


    APs are not the only path to a deeply satisfying high school experience, but they are also not the equivalent of a mindless flow through high school with nary a thought to what matters to the individual. My teen's APs show a glimpse into who she is. Without them, the picture wouldn't quite be complete. The inviting of the pressure -- the "one test to rule them all" -- is part of the experience of APs. Sometimes in life you really do only get one shot at something. Some people wouldn't want to work in those sorts of professions, other people would thrive in them. The world benefits from myriad types of personalities.


    It would be interesting to study the personalities of homeschool students who have complete freedom to choose APs or not -- what they decide and why.

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  7. I know but we travel in summer. Already May is taken up and now June too? 🤔


    I understand! The test dates for May and June couldn't be worse this year.... 


    Could you possibly have your son take the test wherever you're traveling? I've known people to schedule tests in other states or even other countries. (Not always an option, but I thought I'd mention it, just in case.)

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  8. Hmph. That's crazy. APs are so much harder than SAT subject tests(and often harder than your generic CC class). I'll have to give some thought to this particular loop.


    The bolded is part of the reason we decided the subject tests were hoops worth jumping. An hour long multiple-choice test on a subject she had sometimes already taken a more difficult test in didn't seem that big of a hoop to jump, especially given the potential benefits.  (If a student has severe test anxiety, every test -- no matter how short -- might be difficult. If that were the case, the decision might well be different.)


    The tests are a breeze to schedule. It's like signing up for the SAT, not the APs.  The tests still take time, of course. That's our biggest struggle in deciding. There's no reason to take tests that won't add anything to the transcript. Each test needs to earn its place on the calendar.

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  9. Our experience, I think if possible, for best result, the student should do prep specific to the test from a book or course intended for that purpose to make sure any holes left by the course are covered. Course content, even with APs, can vary significantly.



    Good point. This is the approach we take as well. No matter what type or level of course she takes, she always does as least a quick skim of a test prep book and takes a practice test or two. (She studies more and takes more practice tests if necessary and if time allows.)

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  10. wow your student is tough - the boys need a few weeks to unwind after the grueling APs


    She would rather get the subject tests over with while the AP adrenaline is still flowing.  ;)  


    Also, finals are later in May, so she wants to turn her focus to those. 


    (If the class isn't AP, she's more likely to choose the June date, which is right after finals.)

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  11. To save time linking individual schools, I've linked this instead:


    Note that colleges are more likely to award college credit for the AP Calculus AB exam or AP Calculus BC exam than for the SAT Math Subject Test. However, a few colleges will grant course credit for the SAT Math Subject Test, and many will use the exam as a math placement exam.




    (ETA: We're not trying to use the math subject test for credit. I've just include this for general information.)

  12. Probably obvious but make sure you take the SAT 2 test just after the corresponding course completion and some test prep work (usually the June dates).


    Precalc => SAT 2 Math 2

    AP or Honors Bio => SAT 2 Bio



    my DS' best friend is following this strategy so far so good - he will be applying to very competitive colleges (Junior this year)


    Yes, this is the approach she's taken thus far and it's worked well. Although sometimes the May date is better because it's around the same time as APs, so there's no need to study all through June. (Unless, of course, the student needs the extra time.)

  13. Not having the entire morning available sounds problematic, because testing may not start promptly. I would do whatever possible to free up the whole testing morning and not limit her to two hour slots because that may put her in a time crunch and may make it impossible to test if they are running behind.



    She has plenty of buffer if she just takes one or two, but adding a third could push the testing into the afternoon if there's a delay.  We're planning on her being at the site until noon, if needed. We just want to have the best odds that even with delays she will be able to complete whatever test/s she planned to take without stressing about time.

  14. The English test is one you can simply throw in if the student is showing up to take other subject tests as well. It is pretty similar to the general SAT English portion and really not a hurdle for a student with a good grasp of the English language. But I see no benefit in taking it at a separate test date in addition to math, science and history


    Thanks. This is helpful. We're dealing with scheduling conflicts on almost every testing date. She has time to take a test or maybe two on some dates, but not three tests. Not all test dates will work.  We want to make sure she's choosing tests wisely and not giving up other opportunities to take a test she doesn't even need.


    I appreciate everyone's thoughts and experiences.

  15. I have not come across any school that placed students in science based on their subject test scores. Since this tests high school level science, but college science courses start from the beginning, that would not make sense to me.


    That was poor wording on my part. Some schools want to see a science score. Some even request specific tests, such as physics or chemistry. Math and foreign language are the ones sometimes used for placement. 

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  16. From these posts and various school websites, there seems to be a pattern emerging. Math, science, and foreign language seem to be the most useful.  (Followed by history.) Even when the subject tests aren't required, they are sometimes used for placement. If the student doesn't have the subject test scores, they are required to take a placement test at the school. In that situation, the subject test might be preferred. (If the student has a bad testing day, the subject test can be taken again.)


    Thanks for the responses thus far!

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