The FORSAKEN Inn, not enchanted... :glare:

Mind if I drop in to ask for a recommendation? I'm looking or an Audible book that is similar to The Lodger and The Enchanted Inn. I can't seem to find anything that looks enticing. Anyone have suggestions? (Bonus points for a Christmas/winter setting.) So as not to appear completely rude by making a request and then running.... I recently read Early Decision: A Novel by Lacy Crawford. It was a super quick read and great for this time of year. (Especially if you like to add to your college admission angst! ;) ) It was fiction, but nothing but the truth. It not only changed my perspective, but changed some of what we're doing. Now I can run with a clean conscience... :gnorsi: ;)

You have plenty of real, coherent thoughts! I'm so glad you posted! I can relate to so much of what you've written...

This is so true! It's something I'm trying to work on too.

Looking at the syllabus, it appears many of the writing assignments are whether a student agrees or disagrees about the idea or viewpoint in the chapter. This gives me pause. I'm wondering if the class is a "presenting both sides of the debate" sort of class.

I know it's only a few months into the first year that the class has been offered, but I'm wondering if anyone would like to share thoughts about the class thus far. Thanks!

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Thanks! These sound like reasonable explanations.

Thanks! Is this your daughter's first AP class? If not, how does it compare with others she's taken?

I was able to transfer one to my Kindle! Working on others now... http://www.amazon.com/gp/sendtokindle/email This changes everything! :001_wub: A million thanks!

AP Psychology with PA Homeschoolers The teacher has an online lecture each week during which she's visible. Some students choose to be visible as well. She also has supplemental recorded lectures in which she's visible. In addition she has a weekly online chat; no visuals for that one, but lots of interesting discussion. If anyone is looking for an interactive class, I highly recommend this one! NOTE: Not all PA Homeschoolers classes are like this! Some have very little teacher interaction.

I'm not sure. I almost always access my Audible library on my phone, so it's possible I just never noticed them before.

I found them! :party: I couldn't see them on my phone, but I can on the laptop. Thank you for mentioning this!!

Where did you find them? I don't see any on my account. :(

It's also good for during homework time as well. Assignments online took much longer when she could take her laptop and "work" anywhere. Work on stories she was writing, work on Skyping with friends, work on anything but what she was supposed to be working on..... :glare: :toetap05:

Thanks for your detailed response!

We would be interested in Spoken Rhetoric. It's a one semester class, so it might be a good summer school choice.

A search didn't show any reviews. Anyone care to share thoughts about the class?

I understand! I have an extremely verbal only child. There were days I thought I would lose.my.mind, especially when we lived in a rural area. We found other solutions until she was older, but I'm all for whatever works! Each family is different. I hope you didn't think my musings were directed at you! :sad: I was just thinking aloud in the wrong thread. I should have started a new one about whether or not gifted classes are really any different or advanced or something like that. Anyway, good luck with the classes! :cheers2:

Actually, the materials themselves seem just on level or perhaps light for a rigorous high school, not advanced. I'm more bewildered than ever. I'm clearly missing something. ;)

If the classes were geared toward PG Tweens that have writing weaknesses, I wouldn't have been so taken back. But stating the classes are for PG TEENS is a different ballgame entirely. The second bolded sentence reminds me we are NOT in the target audience. We found many, many ways to study above grade level material, no class necessary. For us, one compelling reason for taking classes is for outside feedback on meaningful assignments that require the student to synthesize information and provide high quality output. It seems to me that should be one of the goals of high school no matter what the student level. For PG teens it should be even more so. (In my mind, that actually trickles down to lower grades as well.) Obviously there is a market for the classes and they work well for many students. :)

Perhaps from reading the class descriptions? Doesn't seem like a false idea to me. Teen Focus classes are designed for highly and profoundly gifted students ages 12 and up.* Taken directly from the site: http://www.onlineg3.com/OnlineG3/Teen_Focus_Course_Descriptions.html

OP, sorry for the derail!! :blushing:

Perhaps this is why Athena's and G3 have never interested us. My dd doesn't seem to have the asycnchony that many mention, so the classes didn't seem to offer much that she couldn't get elsewhere. (I'm not sure if the lack of asycnhony is nature or nurture. It's probably a combo of both.) I certainly don't think all PG children are weak writers, even at young ages. For some, writing is their strength. Hmm...I'm not sure that catering to a writing weakness is a good thing... I just took a look at the high school classes at G3. In what way are these geared toward PG students? I'm just not seeing a difference between these classes and rigorous HS classes with other vendors or AP or DE. If anything, some G3 classes seem rather light. I sometimes wonder if these types of "gifted" classes give children and parents a false sense of abilities. I know some are shocked to find out that typical classes are more difficult than they had anticipated, to the point the gifted student actually fails or drops the classes. It's an interesting phenomenon.

I applaud you for taking into consideration the pace of the class. Many high school classes not even geared toward "gifted" students move at a quick pace and expect much from students. I prefer to wait until a student is nearing high school for online classes, so I don't have any providers to recommend. Sorry! At those ages, I would try to find a local tutor, class, or language club. Failing that, I might consider an online tutor that could give family lessons on Skype. Someone else might have more helpful suggestions. I hope you find a good fit! A quick aside of general musings... The bolded comment in the quote is an important point. In the past, I have heard people in my local area discuss frustration with gifted children being enrolled in classes far above the child's age level. I sort of tsk tsked those comments, not fully realizing the negative effects a too young, not ready student can have on a class. Then my daughter became involved in more classes, in person and online. The reality was a bit disturbing. Some of the young children in classes stood out for their weaknesses as much as for their strengths. Being able to absorb, process, and discuss advanced input is separate from being able to produce quantities of quality written output. Being able to converse and interact appropriately is as important as understanding the material. To be sure, there are a few children we have met that have left us almost speechless with their overall giftedness and maturity. They needed to be in the class as much as the teens did. They were ready for the input, the output...everything. On the other hand, there are also many children whose parents have misjudged readiness. The child's asynchrony did not make a class well beyond the child's chronological age a good choice. I wonder if this is why some gifted providers are strict about grade levels. I imagine it's also because they are aiming their classes at broad levels of giftedness and not just the profoundly gifted. It's unfortunate that decisions with some providers can't be made on a case-by-case basis. As I stated earlier, there are certainly some children that are absolutely ready for high school work. It does, however, seem that there are fewer of them than many parents realize. I often wonder if some gifted providers have lowered their intensity to allow these children to participate. The CTY class my daughter took was actually no more rigorous than the typical online class she's taking now. I'm more and more cynical of all things gifted. It's tricky, messy, and dangerous to discuss. ;)