I found the TofC on the Rainbow Resources site. I use them for planning & record keeping. Thanks for responding!!

Does anyone know if there is are table of contents available for 1st Language Lessons and complete writer? I mean, I could just make a photo copy, but often there is a place publishers will have the table of contents available to view on the internet. Any one know? Thanks, Ruthanne

I think it is worth going back and making sure your kid has good skills in grammar. But I bet she can pick it up pretty quickly. It's not like you have a 14 yo who is looking at going back and repeating 2nd grade. But you may have to do some scaffolding of learning grammar in language arts while also reading higher level (and age appropriate) stuff in literature and history. I like that terminology, "Scaffolding of learning" .... that is great!

Thank you all for such great advice!! We have primarily used a CM methodology due to a younger special needs DD, but I have always had my eye on the classical method. I mistakenly thought it would be "too difficult" to adhere to with the other issues going on. However, I have always insisted my daughter read "real" books - she is a voracious reader, like me. I am heading down to the used homeschool bookstore tomorrow :auto: to see what I can find. A Beka Grammar & Composition is on the list, as well as First Language Lessons - for getting caught up. Then we will probably move to Analytical Grammar. As for the person who suggested outside help - gosh, I wish! Out of my league, financially. Fortunately, I feel better about our path, and I am actually excited to learn alongside my DD. Thank you all again for all of your fine recommendations!!

Did you do Level II before level III? I just don't want to jump in and not know what in the world I am doing!! I am going to look for it used. I so wish Advance Lessons was ready!

Oh, I was considering A Beka! I have the "old" version of WTM and it is mentioned in there. I was just put off since there are so many components to it - student text, teacher text, text/quiz book, test/quiz key. It sounds really interesting however! I was wondering though, the old WTM says to start with Grammar & Composition III for an older student, but I wasn't so sure about that. Especially since neither one of us has done diagramming before. Hopefully, the used book store that I am going to tomorrow will have something for me to look at ... Thanks for your input!:iagree:

Thank you for all of the responses! I really feel comfortable with the WTM products, so I think I will try the FLL, then switch to Analytical Grammar. :auto: Heading to the homeschool used book store tomorrow to see what treasues I can find. With all this great info, I am armed and dangerous! haha. Thanks again!

What is GWG - is that the Rod & Staff program?

Not sure where to post my question, please forgive me if I am in the wrong forum. Switching to a classical approach. Needing to remediate 9th grade DD in some basic stuff like grammar rules, sentence diagramming, etc. I am re reading WTM, I have an older version, and it seems like all the suggested resources like A Beka, Rod & Staff are grade specific and have several components. In other words, A Beka - Writing & Composition - has a student text, teacher text, test/quiz book, test/quiz key - plus has the grade level plastered on it! I so wish that "Advanced Language Lessons" was available!! It is exacly what I am looking for - but since we are already in 9th grade, I don't feel I have the time to wait unitl January 2012! :confused: Any suggestions?? Thanks in advance, Ruthanne.

The gaps are most evident in Laguage Arts - grammar: sentence diagramming (something I never learned!) , proper paragraph formation, etc; memorizing spelling rules. We never did dictation, narration, nor did we read any of the classics at a lower level. There are more, but I left the book and notes downstairs.

I recently sat in on several of Susan's workshops at a Homeschool Convention in Houston, TX. I have the book, "The Well Trained Mind". In fact, I have had it for years. Unfortunately, I read it, and put it on my shelf. I deemed the classical methodology "too difficult" for my complicated life. I now realize my mistake. I came away from the convention pretty depressed, but with a resolve to do better for my daughter. She is 14 and has embarked on high school level courses. However, I am realizing that I did not properly establish a foundation for her to build upon. Because of several factors, one being a special needs younger sibling, cross country moves, etc. I now know that I put far too much of her learning upon her shoulders - independent learning too early. I see that I have to rectify this situation immediately. My question is HOW? I am re-reading WTM. I see issues in the grammar stage that I neglected. Do I go back that far and fill in the gaps? How do I fill in the gaps and still enable her to press on with high school courses? A lot of the "gaps" are things that I never learned myself, so I am planning on getting "The Well Educated Mind".