Roger Lancelyn Green has some very well written books on Greek and Norse mythology. I really enjoyed them, and so did my oldest. Charles Kingsley, too, for Greek.

Try Athenaze. It's a high school program with workbook, teacher key, etc. They sell it at Rainbow Resource and they have samples there, too. Jut remember it will take a long time to get to the point of reading Homer, and it will take a tremendous amount of motivation and dedication. Greek poetry is really difficult. You may need a tutor at some point, but Athenaze is a good way to get started. My son is using Crosby and Schaeffer's Introduction to Greek, but it doesn't have a teacher's key. Galore Park's Greek program is classical, too, if I remember correctly. Some links for you: http://www.bolchazy.com/index.php?cat=greek&sub=main http://rainbowresource.com/prodlist.php?subject=15&category=5066 You might want to post this on either the Logic stage board or the high school board. It is likely to get a better response over there. Posts get buried pretty quickly on this board. Good luck!

I learned to read from these books before I started school! I do love them.

:iagree: And also, see pretty much the entire 25th chapter of the book of Matthew. Jesus redeemed mankind once and for all. He said it was finished. This wasn't because of things we do or think, but because of His great mercy. But He is pretty clear that if we have accepted His gift of salvation (more than a change in thinking, a determination of the will -- "then come and follow Me"), we will be doing certain things. And our actions will ultimately reveal whether we have accepted Him or not. Not that it's anyone else's business, we are not to judge the state of another's soul. Only God knows what people are going through on the inside, and he will judge fairly, according to His loving and all-encompassing mercy. But faith and works cannot be separated. At. All. (IMHO, of course!) As an aside, much of this discussion is semantics. I don't think most of the people who are proposing the first option think it is really all about what you think. Neither do I think most of the people voting for the second option think that we can earn salvation by our actions. I think there are some differences, but I think a lot of the people here are "violently agreeing" with each other.

Yes, I believe that's it. (Sorry it has taken me a couple of days to respond. I'm trying to stay off the computer!) I really really like them. They have reading passages and the student has to answer questions from them as well as the grammar questions. I have those tests, the answer key to the tests, and the answer key to the Henle textbook exercises, which is extremely helpful. I haven't compared them to other Henle resources, but I got them on recommendation from a friend who had used several and liked these the best. (She also had the syllabus but I have a problem with being told what to do when so I didn't get that!) Hope that helps...

I'm not sure what kind of detail you are looking for... This is an ideal day -- not that there are a lot of those! But this is what we shoot for: 7th: 60 minutes of math, 60 minutes of Latin, 30 minutes of Greek, 90 minutes of history & science(this is mostly reading & writing), 60 minutes of English, and about 60 minutes of lessons with me (this is some new stuff & just going over his daily work). We also have "together time" at two different times of the day (first thing before we start in the morning and right after lunch), that's all four kids together with me, which is usually about 20-30 minutes each time. This is for read alouds, prayer, Bible, memory work, etc. This time is less about academics than about reconnecting with each other. 6.5-7 hours. 4th: 45 minutes of math, 20 minutes of Latin, 60 minutes of history and science (mostly reading), 30-45 minutes of various English assignments, 60 minutes of lessons with me, and the together time. 4-5 hours. 2nd: 30-45 minutes of math, 30-45 minutes of English, 30 minutes of history or science, 30-45 minutes of lessons together, and together time. 2.5-3.5 hours. K: 30 minutes of phonics, at 3 different times for about 10 minutes each, 10-15 minutes of simple math work, 15-20 minutes of her reading to me and me reading to her, and together time. 1-2 hours. All of these things are going on simultaneously, I just pretty much get the olders started and then start with the youngest first, then 2nd gr, then 4th gr, so my 7th grader frequently will be working on his own til after lunch. Like I said, I don't get this every day, but this is my goal. Life is tough and there are a lot of balls up in the air. They frequently come crashing down! But for me (not a type A go-go-go type) I have to have a pretty high (for me) bar, or I will lay around and read all day.:) HTH

Are ps kids really doing only 4 hours of work a day in middle school? Mine have never been in school, so I don't have any idea, but that seems low to me. The middle school ps kids here are in school for 7 hours, so it seems strange that they'd only get 4 hours of work done in that time. I would shoot for closer to 5-7 hours, as far as planning. But you don't have to sit with them that whole time, they ought to be doing some of that work independently. Mine this year are 7th, 4th, 2nd, & K and I try to plan 6-7, 4-5, 2-3, and 1-1 1/2 hours of work a day, respectively. Sometimes they finish earlier, sometimes later, but that is what I try to shoot for. Of course, when life is going crazy, we do what we can. The ideal and reality are not always the same! :)

Some things we have liked: Galore Park history books (British history) Anything by Guerber (Rome, Greece, US history) Dorothy Mills history books (Memoria Press just reprinted these with workbooks I think) Famous Men Series Killer Angels (US Civil War Battle of Gettysburg -- my 7th grader is reading this now and loves it) What area of history is he particularly interested in, or is it everything? Historical fiction has always been a hit with my history-loving ones, there is a lot of great fiction out there that really gives you a feel for the different times.

A Commonplace book. You can read about it here I think: www.CharlotteMasonHelp.com

When asked, I tell people I am not on facebook because it is the Kraken. That usually gives me time to get away or change the subject...

You know, I saw a friend's copy once but I don't remember anything about it. I will say though -- their tests for Henle are awesome. Much better than anything else I have seen. Maybe if you start a new thread someone who uses them will chime in? Or maybe if you email them they might give you a sample page?

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Have you tried Our Lady of Victory school? I have bought their tests for Henle and they are very good. I know they have a schedule for Henle and I think it is a two year one.

I know Oxford School Shakespeare is supposed to be good...haven't used it myself, though. But they sell it on Amazon and you can look at some samples. I think they have line by line explanations, too, of outdated vocabulary, etc.

Have you ever looked at the Bolchazy Carducci website? They have a selection of fables, stories, etc. written in Latin. Maybe she would enjoy reading some of those as a break from Henle here and there?

Yes, it can be done without a spine. (I have done it.) You can find all kinds of great books on just about anything! You can use those blackline history maps and coordinate them to your weekly topics, and schedule projects from online resources. And it's mostly free!

Yes, a comma is needed. (Also agreeing that is a weird sentence!)

I voted copywork and dictation, seconding narrations, especially with R&S English.

Roanoke: The Lost Colony by Yolen I think Jean Fritz has one on Roanoke too but I forgot the name.

Depending on how she learns and you teach, I could recommend several things. Do you want more guidance? Ordinary Parent's Guide to Teaching Reading Phonics Pathways (my favorite) Do you know the letter sounds yourself, you just need words to practice on and some order to teach them in? Classical Phonics (Memoria Press) Bob Books It depends on you and your child but my personal preference (assuming you aren't wanting to do a lot of writing) is Phonics Pathways and Bob books combined.

How to Teach Spelling (and the workbooks that go with it, How to Spell) are my personal favorites. Spelling Power worked well for my bad speller, BUT I had to tweak it a LOT. HTTS has been un-tweaked so far and I am using it with four kids now. It has built in dictation, which I think is the key to learning to spell. Dictation makes you spell the words in context, and reviews previous words at the same time. HTH and good luck! I am a natural speller and my first two were definitely not, so I know it is a steep hill to climb when it comes natural for you.

I am so sorry for your loss.

:banghead: I don't know whether to scream or cry. That is so wrong on so many levels.

We're Christians, and Santa still comes to my home every year -- no guilt here! Well, I do feel a little guilty that I hid the obnoxious Santa that sings JIngle Bell Rock while shaking his hips that someone gave my kids a few years ago and I just couldn't take him anymore! Of course, Puck the mischievous fairy visits my house, too, and hides socks in the dryer and does other annoying things. :) We pretty much have a superhighway from Fairy Land that runs through here. (Strangely enough, the laundry fairy REFUSES to go in my boys' room and pick up their laundry, though they regularly leave offerings for her...:D)

:iagree:I second this. This has worked wonderfully for my kids and it takes almost no planning time for me, using the workbooks. Very rule based and the syllabication part (which I thought might be unnecessarily confusing) has turned out to be extremely helpful. It has some dictation already built in, too.