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  1. 47 minutes ago, square_25 said:

     

    I think what we have is a political battle that's encouraging people to treat these public health measures as divisive. And that's unfortunate. It's not at all obvious to me that there's be the same "battle of cultures" without encouragement from the top. 

     

    I am beyond baffled at the way some of these things have turned. Contact tracing. I have encountered so many people who didn't know that contact tracing was already a thing that health departments did. One of the kids we adopted came home with Giardia and we had to help the health department figure out where he may have gotten it. An immigrant situation wasn't the norm for the area so they ended up filing it as he had been drinking unfiltered water. (In Ukraine.) But now people think it is a brand new thing designed to steal your rights. It has always been there. Most people have just not encountered it until this point.

    Masks have always been a thing. Our family has always used them in high-risk settings both for risk of spreading and risk of catching. A local police officer had an off-the-record conversation with my husband that no one in the precinct thinks masks work, and they have no interest in requesting people follow mask requirements. I know I have friends who would high-five and cheer about that. People here are dividing so strongly over issues that other countries do not see as divisive at all. A first family of one of my kids from Ukraine reached out to make sure that we are safe *here* because of what they are seeing.

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  2. 5 minutes ago, itsheresomewhere said:

    I got to talking to the manager helping out checking people out.  He said by 10:30 this morning they had over 250 people buying supplies.  Very high for a weekday.  I also got to meet an individual who told the manager that this virus was just a front to stop people from caring about the environment.  It was comical.

    I have decided that I need to add white cotton gloves to my supplies.  My hands will thank me later.  
     

    They should talk to the people I have heard telling stories about "the elites" engineering this to reduce the planet's overpopulation and save the environment.

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  3. "An aging workforce

    A July 2019 article in the New England School of Medicine showed that from 2000 to 2017, the number of physicians younger than 50 years old living in rural areas decreased by 25%, and by 2017, more than half of rural physicians were at least 50 years old. More than a quarter were at least 60.

    By comparison, in urban areas only 39% of physicians were older than 50, and only 18% were older than 60."

    https://www.valdostadailytimes.com/news/local_news/aging-country-doctors-as-rural-physicians-age-out-health-care/article_ef4f188b-e1ba-5f5d-b4df-4bbd7a8519f2.html

    This is something I am keeping in the back of my mind. There is already a doctor shortage in a lot of the country, and older, overworked doctors are going to be at greater risk. Plus a lot of rural hospitals have closed in the last few years. Another one here in Alabama just announced it will close.

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  4. 41 minutes ago, saraha said:

    Not trying to totally derail the thread, but has anyone ever used the gatorade powder? For stocking up purposes, we don't have room for a bunch of gatorade

    It works fine, but it is a bit expensive. We make our own with koolaid packets, sugar, salt, and fake salt. 

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  5. 23 minutes ago, TravelingChris said:

    I am going to be making an appointment with my concierge doctor, calling my pulmonologist staff and also writing a message to my rheumatologist as to what all of them say.  My concierge family practice doctor is a long time doctor in this town and also teaches a class or two at the local branch of UAB medical school.  He has multiple times prescribed medications w telephone conversations, I have his cell phone number too, and he will see people off hours and also normally becomes the doctor of record in the hospital versus leaving us to hospitalist who may or may not believe my very, very complicated medical history and probably wouldn't even believe my dh's which isn't so complicated, just a bit unusual.  But one of my main concerns isn't me getting it- it is making sure I have enough medications to keep me alive and functioning when the shortages come.  Also, I am already getting more asthma issues because it is spring and it is also raining a lot.  That aggravates my asthma due to pollen and due to outdoor molds which I am highly allergic too.  But I generally do not get fevers with illnesses.  And I get coughs from the pollen and asthma issues.  They say that you do not get aches and generally crud feeling like you would with the flu---- then how in the world are you supposed to know that you have it, if you do not get fevers????

     

    We are following all of our high maintenance levels for respiratory care here. Obviously that would depend on someone's individual needs. For us it is BiPap/CPap to help keep lungs open, oxygen as needed, suction, regular chest percussion, etc. We are trying to keep everyone's lungs as healthy as possible, and hoping it helps.

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  6. 38 minutes ago, Harriet Vane said:

    We chose to live in a predominantly African-American neighborhood (we are white), and dh's entire fleet of extended relatives chose to cut off our branch of the family because of it. His parents and his sister's family stood with us--they are not racist at all. The relatives had tolerated our choice quietly our first two years there when we rented a flat. When we bought a house there and invited everyone over, ugly things were said and everyone refused to come (except dh's lovely parents and sister's family). It was terribly saddening to watch these lifelong relationships end. We lived there fourteen years and we have no regrets about our choice.

     

    Yeah, I have also been shocked by the response we have gotten for living in a black neighborhood. My mother's current husband is obviously off the deep end. He started making comments that were "jokes" when we called him out, but then moved on to blatantly packing his gun on the few occasions he came here. We don't invite him here anymore.

    He is either rubbing off on my mom, or she is more comfortable expressing nastiness she used to keep to herself? She started making comments also when she visited but stopped when I called her out. She never commented on race in my boyfriends, but had plenty to say about my niece's father who is Hispanic. I didn't care about that, just that the guy treated my sister like crap before he ran off.

    I don't know if it is age. They are more racist than my grandparents ever were. I'm not sure how that happens. 

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  7. 5 minutes ago, tuesdayschild said:

    I was just talking to my BFF from NZ about this. She had originally been hoping they would have less contact than most countries because they aren't a travel hub like Europe, but I guess that's not the case. The domestic flights this person took a week after getting back are going to risk a lot more spread. 

  8. Just now, Lang Syne Boardie said:

    There's an elephant in the room: Religiously motivated homeschool curriculum.

    This gal is ignorantly claiming the Viet Cong...gah, I can't even type it.

    But far more established and supposedly qualified authors of classic homeschool curric have been biased and dishonest about history and science for years. 

    Is it better or worse that these mistakes are based out of utter ignorance, and not only an attempt to manipulate what kids learn? This wasn't crafting a narrative intentionally. This was a complete lack of basic background knowledge. 

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  9. We use sugar to make homemade Gatorade when we are sick, but we use even less than you would use to make regular koolaid. 250 lbs of sugar would last us a long time. I know people who buy a lot for hummingbirds but that probably isn't what is going on LOL!

    I was in the same doctor office today as last week, same time of day, same people working. The phlebotomist who was coughing last week was wearing a mask today. I saw lots more sick people in the waiting room today. From my time waiting it sounds like a lot of people are wanting to get seen for symptoms they would usually completely ignore. 

    The stores here in Alabama have been low on some things but overall shopping has been normal. Not too many extra people shopping, but all the sanitizing wipes my husband uses at work are gone. Their usual supplier is also on backorder.

    Our fedex driver had a big delivery to drop off for us the last couple days, but made a comment that he knows it is normal for us. It sounds like a lot of people are taking advantage of online ordering from what he said. We don't usually get deliveries after dark except during the holiday season.

    At the same time I am also hearing a lot of, "It is just the media. It isn't a big deal." 

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  10. 13 minutes ago, Arcadia said:

    NBC News https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/live-blog/coronavirus-updates-live-countries-prepare-outbreak-spreads-n1143556

    “3 more dead in Washington state, bringing total to 5

    Three more people have died from the virus in Washington state, public health officials announced Monday.

    The latest deaths bring the total to five in the state and in the United States, health officials said.

    Daniel Arkin

    52m ago / 11:11 AM PST“

    ETA: @Laurie @gardenmom5 @Lawyer&Mom @Jean in Newcastle @Aura

     

    Here is part of the problem. There are a few different photos of people helping transport patients that come up with that article. Some of those people are only wearing regular loop masks. We know what is going on and we are still putting people at risk. 

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  11. Are there any good resources out there for learning about this?

    I am intrigued by the way information is being shut down at so many levels in so many countries, right now because of the coronavirus situation, but it isn't the only example. 

    I can see people at a high level deciding that they don't want people to panic and make a bad situation worse. I can see wanting to hide information and save face. I can see people deciding things are overblown and they don't want false information to be spread. I can see people being afraid of repercussions for standing up. But there is so much I don't understand. 

    How many people does it take to censor all of China? Why do they all buy in to their role of censoring others and participate? It isn't only China. False numbers from Iran. Information in the US being filtered through specific official channels. There is a broad range of cultural backgrounds, but all these people still take part in this to some extent. Why?

    Books, documentaries, articles?

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  12. 4 hours ago, SamanthaCarter said:

    With regard to quarantine or avoiding grocery stores due to coronavirus, why shelf-stable? I’ve been putting stuff in the freezer, because I haven’t heard any news of sustained power outages in China. 🤔
     

    Im stocking up on freezer meals in case I get sick and need easy meals. We don’t have the income cushion for larger stocks of disaster preparedness supplies.

     

    We are buying our normal foods, just making sure we aren't low on anything. I don't anticipate power or water problems. 

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  13. 11 minutes ago, Sneezyone said:

    Now that it’s confirmed the virus has been circulating in WA for six weeks, and until they close the schools, wouldn’t it be advisable to remind children heading off to school tomorrow about hygiene? Cough into an elbow. Attach a small bottle of hand sanitizer to an elastic wristlet or belt loop as a reminder, include a note about using hand sanitizer in their lunch bag, etc. They can carry and transmit without ever being very ill. School staff, parents and grandparents at home may not be as lucky.

    I'm surprised that they aren't closing more schools. I wonder how many parents will refuse to send their kids, if they have childcare available. If I was in charge I'd want everyone to freeze long enough to get caught up on testing possible contacts, before you have 50 more "Oops, this person who ended up getting sick has close contact with 300 people every day," kinds of cases. 

    At the same time, I know that with other illnesses like the flu it is actually better for people with mild illness and likely a milder strain of the flu to be out and spreading their strain (yuck) instead of stronger strains that make people sicker getting spread. This was one of the Spanish flu factors. 

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  14. 26 minutes ago, Pen said:

     

    One thing I think that has happened to add to this (besides work and colleges insisting that employees/ students can’t miss days) is that since so many people bring sick kids to things or go when themselves sick it creates an almost permanent passing round of sickness. So a parent will feel if they have to have whole family well, no one would ever get to go anywhere.  For many, that is because other families are bringing their own sick kids to events.  If everyone stayed home when sick there’d almost certainly be less of this tendency toward someone in family always sick problem.  

    Granted we have more people than most, but we had the flu in July/August and December/January. Each time it was more than a month from first fever to last kid stopped coughing. And we have a lot less public exposure than most people because we have a few fragile kids. If we were all in public school we would never have a time in the winter when everyone was 100% healthy. We have been very lucky that the only kid who goes to public school is easier to keep separate when he brings home germs.

    The one "benefit" to the flu is the quick incubation. Schools close for a week and they can get ahead of it. The incubation for the coronavirus can be sooo long. Asking places to close for weeks at a time would require a huge sacrifice for a lot of people, and we don't seem ready to ask that here.

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  15. 6 minutes ago, Pawz4me said:

    It mystifies me that Clorox wipes are such a hot item. I know bleach is in short supply in some places, but one bottle of bleach will do a LOT of sanitizing. All you need is a little water, a spray bottle and some rags. All things most of us already have. Mix up a fresh (small) batch every day and you're good. I haven't had much of a list of things to buy due to Covid 19, but if I did . . .  disinfecting wipes wouldn't be on it.

     

    This is our regular routine every night. Spray bleach on the counters and the bathrooms. It would be overkill for most households on a daily basis, but it is very easy to do.

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  16. Just now, EKS said:

    Can someone explain to me why everyone wants hand sanitizer when it is much less effective than old fashioned soap and water?  

     

    I use it when I am somewhere that I don't have access to a sink. Yesterday for example, signing in at the doctor, filling out their paperwork, then using hand sanitizer before I accidentally touch my daughter or my face or something. 

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  17. 6 minutes ago, Aura said:

    Would y'all mind very much if everyone started putting locations in their reports on things going on locally? Like "I'm on the west coast and there's no toilet paper in any of my stores" kinda thing?

    I'm in Georgia, and so far, I haven't much of any kind of stocking up buying, much less panic buying. I'm going to check w/ my dd who works at a grocery store to see if she's noticed anything.

     

     

    Here in Alabama things are about the same as usual. Shopping is normal. People are having no hesitation to pack the restaurant/amusement place my husband runs with all of their germy kids.

    I've been at doctor offices, urgent cares, and the children's hospital in the last week. All less busy than this time of the flu season last year. 

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  18. We picked up some water. I have nearly zero anticipation of this affecting water supply. Even though we don't think we will need it, as we were checking on other things it was a reminder that we usually intend to have a certain amount on hand and we hadn't kept up with that. We also need distilled water specifically for certain medical equipment, so we got more of that, but we don't consider it drinking water. 

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