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  1. I mentioned a group thinkcollege.net. Wanted to share the link and forget it earlier and didn't want to edit it in either. https://thinkcollege.net/ Even from brief read of the details on the LC thread, I'm not sure if it applies to your situation or not. I wish and hope that my dd could do something like that when she's in her early 20s. but check around in your state. see what things they encourage and do that stuff.
  2. Glad you cross posted. I keep forgetting to connect on the LC board and don’t visit often. I should. Youngest is lower IQ (or low average if tested with non verbal metrics) and ASD (level 2 supports). She’s in grade 10. So we still have 2 years to go. College is not a reality direct out of high school even with the “thinkcollege.net†kind of programs in our area. Those are post secondary pre college pre career training programs for those with developmental and intellectual disabilities. I’m in a state where homeschoolers can report to cover schools as a way to be legal, and then we follow the schools recommendations for courses while making the course fit our student. With all of that said. English: reading, grammar, and composition. My wish is that by grade 12, we move from traditional literature stuff into world of work “Englishâ€. I am strongly leaning toward the Work Keys curriculum for that year to focus on what skills are needed in English for work. She is so severely impaired in verbal ability that she will not be able to have a job where lots of writing or reading is needed. hence the whole work keys thing. I'm hoping for bronze level with her. yeah. that would be achievable with lots of supports. I’m also browsing the catalog at wieser educational for “world of work†kind of books. Math: pre alg, (did that in grade (9) Alg 1 (key to algebra, mixed with hands on equations, and a course on edX platform. She likes solving this stuff who knew?.) Geometry basics course. (some key to geometry, with some other things that will make sense next year. I don't know. I question my sanity on that decision sometimes) Practical Math (aka consumer, life skills, etc). Using the pacemaker text called Practical Math. I much prefer applied math with consumer and practical stuff. But doing basics and intro in algebra and geometry might benefit with something hard to try. Hard is not a bad thing. Social studies: oh wow. How did I go from a 5 year cycle program like mfw to get er done 3 courses and out of here. I wish she knew more than how to read a map and find things on it. I wish she had some understanding in history. I'm thinking last course will be practical living/civics. Science: she likes to cook. She calls cooking time Chemistry class. (She was capable of doing most of Friendly Chemistry, and a food based lab.) She endured watching biology videos and going to nature center to get a “life sciences introduction†credit. She did a catch all physical science. My dreams that maybe when she’s in her 20s she might learn scientific method and thinking might see light of day? But I’m ok at this point if she can’t tell a good hypothesis or not. oh yeah, I belong on the special needs/ challenges subforum more, don't I? Electives: full independent living is not something I can see her capable of within 10 years. She’s 16 now. But she can do many skills in that such as laundry, chores, did I mention cooking and baking?, volunteering at church as one of the janitors (she loves to push that huge trash cart and dust everything). She likes Spanish, so we did Spanish (used a later 1990s video series on discovery education with Sr. Morris). Turns out she is good on piano. Not prodigy or anything. But piano lessons were a really good thing for her. And well, special olympics has been a good thing too. I have an athlete? Really? Wow. Anyway. I hear some of the struggles her older friends at special olympics have with getting driver's licenses, and I just can't see my kid being able to drive. I'm not sure I see the middle one learning it before age 25 with her challenges. I picture the next two years with a heavier focus on learning about getting and keeping a job. More responsibilities around the house. I recently bought a huge package of stuff on teachers pay teachers. They had this sale going and I got the Daily Living Skills bundle at decent price. The author is named Susan Traugh. I hope to cover a lot of that in grade 11 and 12. I don’t know what I’ll call it on transcript to be honest. And then we joke that she will get to “do college at homeâ€, and that just means the transition years where she could be in public school SPED will be more of the daily living and maybe changing volunteer to paid work in some fashion. links with resources: http://www.wiesereducational.com/ and the Susan Traugh packet : (I got the complete bundle. probably didn't need the teacher manual version) https://www.teacherspayteachers.com/Store/Susan-Traugh I have a middle child whose college path is non traditional. low to average IQ, very slow processing abilities. She did "standard" academic stuff (think whatever mfw sold). this is her gap year of self study for CLEP exams, and trying to help in the community. But she's slower path college bound and it will take longer.
  3. agree. that reminds me of something one of the professionals said at the most recent eval. LOL. "what do you mean your child is taking Spanish 1? I'm used to writing recommendation for exemption for foreign language requirement for children with ASD to graduate". yet my child for some reason enjoyed taking Spanish this year. My guess is that in a regular brick and mortar system, she wouldn't have been able to have been offered that. Again, that's high school and not preschool. but all the same, it's one of those things in the this is what it is like for me homeschooling child with asd. When my youngest was preschool age, books on Floortime were recommended in our area. can't remember the name. author was stanley greens..... something. I used to check it out of library or I'd look for it. I don't know if that book and strategy/therapy is still recommended or not, but we liked it.
  4. Well, I’d like to revise my answer a little. I am of course an expert on my child. But I’m not an expert in general on autism and education even if my daughter’s psychologist thinks I should open a homeschool consulting business to help others who want to homeschool special ed (and autism) to feel more confident. LOL. Seriously, at the last eval the psychologist told me I should open shop. At that moment, I never feel less of an expert than I thought I could. hence my reluctance to claim expert. Heee heee. y'all laugh with me on that, right? So I rambled earlier about what it is like years down the road. We wiped away the tears of math today and did homeschool PE and feel a lot better. Let me go back in time and remember when youngest was that age. We were only driving 15 minutes or so to the speech and language preschool at the university, and 10 minutes to the regular needs church preschool that allowed her to be there. We stayed an extra year in that. I’m sure I would have not dealt with it if it were an hour drive however. I was younger, and if it had been the only option, I might have. The place we were at sounds like what you’re doing now. Our was 10 kids and 5 teachers (3 of whom were getting their license for speech pathologists, one who was their clinical supervisor and the other was a preschool teacher.) We also did private speech and OT at the time. I was glad when that daughter could join us at home in her kindy year. My suggestion from that experience is that if there is any way you observe the classroom regularly in some fashion then try to do that as well. At the university speech based preschool, there was an observation window. I learned a lot watching and listening. At the speech and OT clinic, I asked for more information (tell me what to do to have homework). I mean homework sounds silly for preschool age, but it was similar idea. During that final year I started in on a boxed preschool thing (it was old version of mfw preschool with toys) and learned from the school’s techniques how to do more with it. I gained a lot of confidence from watching. They were ok with me doing that because they knew the parents that did watch and learn would then go home and do (even those who went to brick and mortar schools). I asked for individual conference to learn. I told them I didn't want their job. I just wanted to help my daughter. I don’t have answers for how to help juggle the rest of the family’s needs. But ask around and see who would help with the other family members who are younger. Or who could take older student to something. I’ve done the homeschool in waiting rooms routine. It was never fun, but it got it done. (if it we me, I'd find something so that the 5 y.o has something to do? do they offer the concept of "peer model siblings" at reduced rate? there was a session or two where my middle daughter was in the classroom with younger sister in that role.) And in terms of girls vs boys autism difference. Well, at our church there are several girls on the spectrum other than my daughter, and they don’t seem to be in the same book descriptions with each other either. Some things are similar with the girls, but not all. some stuff in the books don't apply. You know the saying out there, right? If you've met one person with autism you've met one person with autism. Things that long term I am glad we were able to homeschool her: able to get out in the community (volunteering as a jr. high and high school age person). Piano lessons. Learning baking and cake decorating (she’s good at that) and cooking in general. Lots of time to let her have down time she needs. Easier to teach all of that girl hygiene stuff at home than having it be at school. It’s been hard work. But I also do not regret staying the extra year in special ed preschool and letting her get older and me get more information and training.
  5. I don't regret it. But some days really suck. today is one of those hard days. if it weren't so hard of a day with her right now, I'd type more. I may even return to this thread and share more later. youngest dd is high school age. homeschooled from her kindy year forward to now. did special ed preschool and regular needs preschool. function level: extreme impairments in communication, presents as extremely IQ impaired on verbal based IQ tests, and low average on non verbal ones. Is not a danger physically. I'm trying hard to not let the really bad day of emotions today impact my posting. I'm thankful that she gets to be home so that she can do stuff that she is capable. We attend a church these days that has a special needs department. Plenty of autism kids in the group. I see what the private high schools that work with disabilities do and they would treat her as "poor and pitful" and non capable. I've seen that the public school would not even try with her labels. I will never feel like an expert. ever. My oldest daughter probably would have received the diagnosis once called aspergers. She's a senior in college now. She would not have done well in group schools. Teachers would have hated her. she's too smart. Other girls did not like her. she was too awkward of a fit. finally in college she has a tribe of misfits that she likes. (you know, the stereotype right? they all do LARP together, and all hang at the comic book store and run and organize the comic convention in town, and do D&D on Friday nights with the math professor. can't make that stuff up. her math major advisor is her DM in d&d) I don't really regret homeschooling her either. She was quite active in church youth group in high school and heard all kinds of stuff and she still says she's glad she didn't have to experience that life. middle gal: no ASD, but other disabiltiies (auditory processing, inattentive adhd, very "slow"). She would have been eaten alive in group school. I'm not an expert at it either. I did the best I could with what I found. back 15 years ago (when middle gal was starting homeschooling), there was so little for us. I know there's more now. Wish I were having a good day of homeschooling where I could tell about the resources that I do have. but when I have these hard journey days, I really don't believe a word I read in a book or a therapy out there. so I'm too cynical to type. Last week, you would have received a different answer. I would have told you how my youngest (the 15 y.o) with classical autism and low IQ woke up early and got home therapies done (with lumosity, eyeqadvantage, equipping minds, brain reflex thingy, and some time in Monarch from aop), and then made me a birthday cake and decorated it and even started clean up. "I made it myself. " and she did. it was a beautiful cake. not the best she's made, but not the worst either. something went wrong and it was dense. maybe that was the intention? giggle. But then I would have say oh yeah baby, this is why I homeschool in spite of her autism and my lack of expert knowledge. somewhere in the years of her visual strength of learning she watched all of that at home and that's what she learned and was taught and caught. I don't regret that. I regret math lesson this morning. thanks for listening. I don't really have a point in it. It's hard work. but you know that with homeschooling other children.
  6. This paper (for someone's phd thesis defense) https://scholarworks.iu.edu/dspace/bitstream/handle/2022/19845/Stone%2C%20Ashley%20%28DM%20Voice%29.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y has some ideas about incorporating D&D into collegiate classroom. and includes some ideas for syllabus and assessment. Maybe it's not out of the idea zone for fine arts in high school? Interesting ideas in there and thought it might be enjoyed by others on the forum for academic discussion.
  7. I don't live in Ca. But I had the same question when it's been brought up. This is what I found. (and hopefully CA people can share better info). It's a thing with the U of California and Cal State systems. They have this requirement for admissions that your high school courses meet this thing called the A-G requirements.Among those requirements are lab sciences. Courses and some schools get their ag approval. But homeschoolers and other alternative education where courses aren't a-g approved can use standardized tests to show they learned things. So it's not testing out of the course (in terms of college credit), but it's using a standardized test to show you met the ag requirement for admissions when the course you did at home was not "ag approved". That's background that I learned. I know the real question is: Why does their system permit a test that has nothing to do with lab to count in the lab requirement of a-g? who knows? but it is what it is. They take the test in lieu of finding a way to take a stamp of a-g approval course. I have guesses why the system allows it. It's because deep down, it's not really about having lab experience. It's about showing your learn some material before college that would be good enough to meet the course approval. I guess it's about making it easy and uniform across the system for admissions to check that's it ok. But I don't know. Those are guesses on my part. and I reserve the right to be wrong about the rationale. That's why you'll hear from homeschoolers in california that they will forget those hoops and do dual enrollment through community college to ease the path to the public college and university system. And why expensive online courses without a-g stamp of approval make no sense to them. (doesn't to me either, but that's not the issue) every time I read about california requirements, I am thankful that I don't live there. hugs to those of you going through the hoops.
  8. My middle daughter is introvert. and probably a little clueless too. (more than a little, but I digress). She did one of those interview scholarship days (smaller 4 year place. not a fancy name place). She went into it knowing that it was very unlikely she'd be selected, but it could be a fun half day on campus and everyone who showed up got nominal scholarship for being there. 1 person got full ride. She went and did as expected and got free lunch and the thanks for showing up participation scholarship. she's not interested in a competitive major and ended up decided to take a year off and then plans to not go to the 4 year place, but do community college.
  9. I posted this on the cross post, but if it would benefit... fwiw, My middle daughter is having a year off. I don't know if "gap year" is the right vocabulary word to describe what she's doing since she is not in some fancy program. in terms of admission: Originally, the college we thought she'd attend just deferred her admission. No big deal with that. just asked to change her from fall 17 to fall 18. no reason given. nice, smaller, local place. scholarships stayed and all of that. but she wasn't national merit level either. Then we realized she didn't really want to go there and will end up at the community college. during her time off, she is working with a special needs dept at a local church to provide shadowing, and with a local homeschool PE class as assistant to the coaches. She also cleans parts of the church (it's a very large building/community center). And so far, through self study, has passed 3 CLEP exams that will count for gen ed requirements at the college that accepted her originally and the community college. and she plans to get a few more clep exams done so that she only has to take a handful of courses toward the associates she desires for paraprofessional work in early childhood ed. The one scholarship that would be danger is a state grant. If she doesn't start at either college by this fall (which is 16 months following high school graduation date), then that eligibility is gone. There was also a state grant that she is not eligible to use at community college level that is program providing "last funds". That has to be started right after graduation. maybe none of that applies to situations of others on this forum since it's not about going to super selective universities, nor involving big things mentioned in gap years. ps: the 4 year college did tell us that she couldn't take college courses during gap year and keep scholarship as she'd be considered transfer student. clep exams were not an issue to them . In some ways, I almost wished we had just listed this year as her 5th year of high school or something. but then I'd probably be second guessing myself on that.
  10. fwiw, My middle daughter is having a year off. I don't know if "gap year" is the right vocabulary word to describe what she's doing since she is not in some fancy program. in terms of admission: Originally, the college we thought she'd attend just deferred her admission. No big deal with that. just asked to change her from fall 17 to fall 18. no reason given. nice, smaller, local place. scholarships stayed and all of that. but she wasn't national merit level either. Then we realized she didn't really want to go there and will end up at the community college. during her time off, she is working with a special needs dept at a local church to provide shadowing, and with a local homeschool PE class as assistant to the coaches. She also cleans parts of the church (it's a very large building/community center). And so far, through self study, has passed 3 CLEP exams that will count for gen ed requirements at the college that accepted her originally and the community college. and she plans to get a few more clep exams done so that she only has to take a handful of courses toward the associates she desires for paraprofessional work in early childhood ed. The one scholarship that would be danger is a state grant. If she doesn't start at either college by this fall (which is 16 months following high school graduation date), then that eligibility is gone. There was also a state grant that she is not eligible to use at community college level that is program providing "last funds". That has to be started right after graduation. maybe none of that applies to situations of others on this forum since it's not about going to super selective universities, nor involving big things mentioned in gap years. ps: the 4 year college did tell us that she couldn't take college courses during gap year and keep scholarship as she'd be considered transfer student. clep exams were not an issue to them . In some ways, I almost wished we had just listed this year as her 5th year of high school or something. but then I'd probably be second guessing myself on that.
  11. My youngest did Friendly Chemistry. We bought teacher's edition of the text, but not the student edition. (and it was the "one student" use version that I got). Teacher's edition has the student text included, and tests, answer keys (for problem sets and tests - but not detailed solutions). Teacher's edition also has teaching tips with games and such. I don't think the games section is in the student book so if those kinds of things are helpful.. good to know that part. My child wrote on regular paper instead of writing in the book. I taught her from text (she has many delays with disabilities so she couldn't teach herself chemistry) so having answers in the back wasn't a real issue for us since I was sitting with her while she did problem sets. Some of the other details are in the extended description on rainbow resource product description in case I forget something major. hope something in there helps.
  12. Middle gal (who is current gap year) has done CLEP prep courses for 1. Sociology (fall 2017 was different course than current I think? First we covered material in an edX arizona state course with stop/start dates and discussion forum. Then did the brush up on Modern states, and we bought REA guide for practices of the test. passed the real test. I don't think that's the current way MS does sociology) For some reason that I don't reason, I didn't ask for the free voucher. 2. US History to 1877. When middle gal was grade 11, she did BJU text for high school (using mfw's lesson plans). She studied from Modern States as brush up for a few weeks. Had some REA practice tests (bought that way back when she was in grade 11) and passed easily with real deal. Remembered to ask for free voucher this time and it was legit and they paid the test costs. It was December holiday madness and I forgot to upload the "test center fee" to them, but they would have paid that too. (eta: this thread inspired me to dig out the receipt and file for that. ) 3. currently finishing US history 2. Again, she did a high school version (using the second half o BJU and mfw). So she's brushing up and getting ready for CLEP in a few weeks. 4. and she is also doing the precalculus clep course. That will be a while to be ready. The college she intends to enroll will not accept the college alg or math CLEP but will do the pre calc. She did Saxon advanced algebra in grade 12. so we'll see how that goes. Reviews: they did give legit vouchers for test fee. Those are supposedly limited so when the 10,000 run out, I guess that's done??? I don't know if the courses would be full courses, but I know my daughter is reading all stuff and not just watching the videos. I think the intent is these MOOC are done after you've had high school class in subject and just need to go the extra step to get ready to take the test. However, she's spending a lot of time every day in it. If I were logging hours, I might lean toward class/credit. But she's graduated, so I'm not mindful of that. Others do not consider a class like this to be anything other than preparation for the test and not a way to learn the material. We felt that we needed more than the practice offered at Modern States to do her best on the real tests. That's why we got REA guides, and access to the peterson's practice tests (we are eligible via dept of defense, although some public libraries have those as well) Soc and history were straightforward to do the class. and she passed those tests well. I anticipate that she'll do fine in the us part 2. We're figuring out the pre calc as we go in terms of do you just watch the video and do just the "homework", do you do all the odds in the optional text? I'm sure we'll end up regretting trying this one and she'll end up taking a math course for her non-stem major. But worth the effort? dh has the math degree so he is teaching her after she attempts problems. We'll keep trying with this one and either take the test by June or give up. Going very slowly in this. I probably should have done better in grade 11 and 12 with her saxon work. We plan to try biology and humanities after US history 2. (edit to add update on this thread http://forums.welltrainedmind.com/topic/670093-modern-states/ she passed US 2 clep and then biology, and now Pre Calc. all this semester. yippee!!! and yes Modern States still has vouchers for us.
  13. I’ve used CTG twice. First time was around the year 2004. Oldest was grade 3 (mfw hadn’t written adventures yet so we all started ecc in grade 2 back then). Second time, oldest was grade 8 and middle was grade 5 and we had just moved to a new state. My pros will be another person’s cons. My cons will be another person’s pros. I like the way they make their schedule in the teacher manual. I like most of the books they schedule and work around those I don’t. I used an audio version of The Children’s Homer the second time we did CTG. The first time it was too much for me to read and too much for oldest to listen to all of it so I condensed. I found the hands on learning about old testament doable. I’d like to share some links on mfw’s board where I left some pics of how we scale back on stuff so that I get it done instead of not doing stuff. https://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=4770#p52622 Other people have way better pictures of how fancy they did it. So enjoy that part of the link. I found the tabernacle kind of fun to make. https://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=4761#p47453 Other hands on learning experiences, I scaled back as needed to make it reality for me. Something about tents? Sheet over the couch. Done. I know some people go all out but I didn’t and still liked it. I didn’t always read every single word in a scheduled book out loud. I would read it as teacher and teach from the book. Examples of that include Streams of Civilization and the book on the OT feasts. MFW has this concept of go the to library with our extra reading list and get some of those based on what your library has and/or add other stuff. It’s called Book basket. Book basket that year wasn’t always super full and that was never a problem for us. For some people it’s a big negative. To me it meant we had more time to enjoy some music and art, and do other things. And again in the long run it was all good. Oldest tested out of literature requirement via CLEP for college so those years or weeks in book basket when it wasn’t a lot didn’t hurt. It even worked out the year my oldest was in grade 8 and then the next year she did mfw’s high school ancients. For some people, that would create problems. Instead, she got to work on other things in that first year of high school even if one subject “ancient history†wasn’t over the top new information. It didn’t hurt her in the long run for college. She’s college senior and been on dean’s list each time. And she did quite well in the required world religions general education courses. (It’s not a Bible college, but all students take religious studies the same way everyone has to take a lit course at some point or test out.) Con: I wish I could figure out a way to use CTG with my youngest who has several developmental and intellectual disabilities. Maybe when she’s in her 20s that can happen. With the editions of the teachers manual that I had, I had to remember to read the introduction section and remind myself of things that were to be done all year, but didn't get repeated all year (one example was the use of Streams of Civ with 8th grader. It said in the front of the manual to schedule some of the chapter projects. I had to remember to do that. that's not a big deal really, but I know others missed that part. well at least one my of real life friends did) Ci. Hope some of my memories are helpful.
  14. It's been a while since I did apologia physical science. One semester was basics of earth science/weather kind of stuff, and other semester was intro to physics/motion kind of stuff. He'll get all of that (physics/motion) again in physics. I agree that the book isn't 10th grade for college bound potential students. You probably covered the material already, but if he wants to read it in the summer and enjoy, it's ok to do that even if you don't list it as a course. Then you can see what you missed in the sequence and enjoy it. here's table of contents to see if it's something he's interested in reviewing from any similar texts in grade 8. https://www.homesciencetools.com/content/reference/phy_sci_toc.pdf
  15. I'm sure there's something out there to buy. Heads up for how it might be easy to do that with the MFW AHL program. You'll get a little unit on poetry with the Psalms study. cross over Bible and English time. So you can do more with that as needed. And for dictation stuff, there is a section of the program with Bible memory verses (optional). You could dictate those to your son to help him with memory work. That won't be every day in the whole year, but quite a few days if I recall. and if I remember correctly, there are little writing assignments you could do from the Notgrass books. Some are assigned already (or maybe i"m thinking WHL). There will be some daily "little writing compositions" when you read the Iliad. That's in the daily lesson plans. none of that is a sweet book ala Serl. :) but wanted to give heads up on some of that.
  16. I agree but called it personal finance to meet cover school need :) I went to get the abeka consumer math out of the cabinet in case I could answer a bit more on it. It's very possible my youngest might be able to use this post secondary. Even with doing a "finance" class, and practical math book, she'll need it again in her young 20s. I think it would be good with what you mentioned earlier with "systematic coverage of things like taxes, loans, interest, investments" lots of practice with the math in those situations AND some discussion in the text why you're doing that stuff.
  17. Middle gal of mine tried the LoF book. I read it. I'm not a fan of it. It just seemed to be too focused on do these magical investments and you can retire by age 40. (or 45?) We set that book down. sold it very cheap at used books sale. Maybe other people like LoF better. I have Abeka's consumer math on the shelf. I can look through it and answer generally. But the reason we're probably not going to use it is that my youngest needs the Pacemaker book for content at age, but reading level lower. is there something I can look through and venture an inexperienced guess? It might fit your needs. Even if the title of the text is consumer, you can still call it personal finance if you want to. Plenty of people with college bound students do that in fact b/c we have to have personal finance to graduate with how it works in my area. can't make any comments on MUS stewardship that mean much. had an older version of it that our church was using with lower income adults who needed to learn basics of budgeting. I mentioned this up thread just slightly, but I've used MFW one (which is the Lori list you linked). Normally I'm fan girl of mfw stuff. (major user for over a decade, right? clearly it clicks) But I wasn't a fan of what they did for personal finance. The Burkett workbook was nice and not overwhelming and felt like a starting point. That's not a bad thing in my opinion. But the Alcorn book was not a hit with high schoolers. It really seemed to have been written for older than high school adults and was written during the big popular time of late 80s with wealth gospel and this book was designed to counter that link of thinking. My oldest (who was advanced reader and all of that) struggled understanding and connecting. However, with that said, when she was a college freshman in second semester English composition, she used that Alcorn book in her research paper which had something to do with attitudes toward money/spending, etc. She also used some of her Econ texts from high school But I am rambling. and the other reason I wasn't fan girl of the MFW finance product was the "bible" was tagged on in the lesson plans. It's clear that the mfw author did a word search on money, wealth and limited the search to the 4 gospels and just said "read these". hope some of those thoughts and experiences help.
  18. I agree with the idea of finding the sample chapters and see if you and your students like it. My oldest is snarky about all things to read and probably would have said "this book is too dry" .youngest: "this book is keeping me from watching tv." Middle "this book is just right. did it have to end?". (she said that too about bju us history and seems to love history clep test prep) We were using the 2008 edition with the wider columns and limited photos (b/w not color).
  19. and adding that being taught in middle school math does not necessarily mean mastered for life. That's why I'm glad to see many of us continue to provide opportunities in high school for practicing the skills. It really is an ongoing thing. With that said, I wanted to really chime back in to add in that my youngest (the one with severe impairments) also gets to practice the skills of consumer math in high school with her Home Ec class. The oldest two did those kinds of practice skills informally while in high school. (find me the better unit price of that and get it in the cart). But with youngest, she needs the worksheet practice and the field trip.
  20. With my oldest and middle, the "consumer math" side (using the distinctions Lori has above) was done in real life situations when needed. They sat with us while we did our taxes, they were involved with fafsa, and checking on everyday bank accounts, etc. And even in college when it was time to have amazon ship those college text, we walked and talked together about why we thought vendor A was better option over B even if the price was a little lower with B. Or maybe that's personal finance. I don't know. But we didn't do a consumer math course with them. They did a course in personal finance with spending, saving, loan, giving. (used a combo of the mfw elective, and moneyskill.org) Also much of this was seen in practice with our stuff. But on their transcripts, Personal Finance is listed. "consumer math" is not. youngest on the other side of experiences has a whole bunch of intellectual and developmental disabilities. Her personal finance will be quite different (some workbooks from steck vaughn, and she'll have to had someone help her with spending/saving/giving for a long time if she's ever in charge of it herself). And she will also have a course in consumer math/practical math using text from Pacemaker. This one is not on lori's list that I saw https://www.wiesereducational.com/products/practical-mathematics-for-consumers-gf3221.htm Lots and lots of practice and lots of materials. If I had done this much with the other two, they would not have needed it like that. So yes, youngest will have both "consumer math" and "personal finance" on her transcript due to her ability level. While there are distinctions in consumer math vs personal finance, there is overlap as well. I am also glad we used material to cover both and have it repeated in real life applicable as needed.
  21. and sometimes reads are counted when various search index engines do their thing too. I'm glad to know what you had posted. quote: Does anyone else have anything exciting planned special for this year that either time or finances usually keep you from doing? Yes. one of the grandparents did not have a clue for christmas gift for my disabled child, so it was an amazon gift card. and now I can use that to buy some games the OT suggested to help my youngest. kinda neat.
  22. oops, thought I replied on this earlier. excited for you on how that came about. and when the student is excited about it, that makes it sweet too. hoping the materials work out for you as well as that year did for my oldest and middle. seems like such a long time ago. I remember with middle dd that we'd do Bible time together via audio bible online. And she's my artist so she loved timeline and maps in ahl and whl. so I have some happy memories. :)
  23. I'm not sure it's below grade level. It's for grades 9 or 10 as an overview/survey of World History. It is not written at remedial levels (also called Hi/Low). It's not super in depth which may be what makes it " light" in my personal experience and that was fine with me especially when I was reading text out loud to a special ed learner. I remember my oldest thinking she wasn't really learning a lot of new stuff compared to having mfw cycles of history in previous years. (and she was using MFW high school with the notgrass). That review was not a problem for us and that oldest is still on dean's list after 7 semesters at college. I know notgrass was not her personal favorite book but that doesn't mean it's bad to use. With that said, I did use Notgrass with a "remedial" learner (youngest who has lots of disabilities) and it was pleasant to use with her. Read a little. find answer to review questions, quick quiz at end of week. Even with her needs, I added a few things such as map work and timeline to round out the coursework for her. She needed something a little more to do to help with learning styles and timeline and maps were good for that. We added in a DK kind of encyclopedia to get some more info and add a visual element with the Notgrass (we had the 2008 edition of Notgrass). She wasn't interested in more information than that and I was fine with having a regular survey high school course. We weren't doing the suggested literature books, and the Bible reading stuff was one day a week in the text for most weeks. I have heard of others who combine the Notgrass book with Western Civilization by Spielvogel as well as working through the online flashcards on Instant Cert and pass the Clep Western Civ part 1 exam. (eta: that way they got the Bible perspective in history they wanted along with the college credit by exam they wanted as well)
  24. More information on the 2014 edition is on Notgrass website at this link https://history.notgrass.com/exploring-world-history-links/ I agree with you if you're just now getting it and plan to use it for other children in a few years, probably worth getting current edition. I used the 2008 edition and didn't upgrade or get new with youngest, but that was with my youngest.
  25. cbollin

    So sad

    One of the grandmothers at church went through this last year. She was raising her special needs grandson (after parents passed away) but knew it was time to get him to a younger family. One of the families at church adopted him. (and they were not previously related) Grandma still gets to see him and be grandma. and the couple love having a son. (new mom just happens to be special ed teacher too.) I pray this story has a similar happy turn of events for this teen.
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