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  1. I don't really have any "rigorous" pre-alg suggestions. My kids use MUS's algebra and geo texts in a single yr as pre-alg and pre-geo and move on to Foerster's for alg 1. Dolciani is supposed to be thorough and good. Jacobs alg begins with pre-alg and some people just go straight into that.
  2. Agree! My ds who is a physics geek and double majored in physics and math and is now in grad school for theoretical cosmology, AoPS was the perfect fit. He loves to dwell in theorizing and thinking in terms of puzzles coming together to make sense. It is who he is and what he breathes. I have other kids who have been just as good in math where AoPS would have made them shrivel up in dread. Just bc they could in no way means they should!! Too much energy and effort for equal results does not make sense for them. Straightforward teaching with strong application is all the have wanted and needed. My current rising sr would much rather spend her time solving computer programming challenges than theorizing about math. (Though she does spend hours breaking puzzle codes.)
  3. Reading through this reminded me that when I was in college I was on the student health advisory board. I was paid via room and board to provide in dorm and campus-wide "health awareness" events. One huge one I planned was having food, bands, and non-alcoholic beverages sponsored by a large name-brand brewery that promoted awareness of under-age drinking and its effects. (That was back when half of the on-campus population went from being legal drinking age to under legal drinking by the passing of a single law.)
  4. You get to determine how you define credits. I have given PE credit for everything from rock climbing to figure skating to walking on a tread mill. Fine arts credits have been just as varied--Great Courses music or art history lectures, community choir, guitar, band, etc.
  5. Welcome! I just wanted to 2nd Lori's post to not get caught up in terminology and classifications but instead focus on your specific goals. (Little of today's classical ed movement is actually representative of an actual classical ed but more of a solid Western civ-focused ed removed from the watering down of contemporary practices.) The needs of your student should be primary over any outside definition or classification. Sounds like you have already recognized the weaknesses of relying too much on philosophy over results. In terms of grammar, I would consider looking into Analytical Grammar for your 10th grader. It is easy to implement and will help lead to mastery in a short period of time. For writing, I don't know much about WWS, but you have 3 yrs to master essay writing. That is enough time to get there. You haven't failed him. You have recognized an academic weakness that needs focused instruction. Ignoring that would be failing him. Recognizing it while still having 3 yrs to master those skills--that is succeeding in critically assessing your student's academic outcomes. Fwiw, I would make write g an academic priority and would not dilute your efforts by trying to alter too much. (I would personally not add in a formal logic course.)
  6. Yes on so many levels. I am sick of standard college tours and any general info sessions. That are so repetitive and the info is easily found. I really expect them to be on autopilot once they graduate.
  7. I like the descriptions of the groups that require older kids. I can definitely see that that would bring a different perspective to a group.
  8. Typically they offer info on how their FA works and how parents can access the system to pay bills, info about campus health services and campus safety, how the meal plans work, etc. I went way back when our oldest went to college back in 2007, but been to one, you pretty much have been to them all. Nothing earth-shattering and nothing kids can't handle on their own and tell you later. So, don't feel any guilt. You don't need to be bored to tears listening to their talks.
  9. I lovemour Brock microscope. It has lasted through all 8 of my kids.
  10. I agree with everything you posted except for the bolded. There is a difference between token merit which is really just bringing down tuition costs to what it has been determined people will pay and given to about every single (all) student(s) and is equivalent to basic institutional grant $$ vs merit scholarship $$ which essentially buys top students from attending more highly ranked schools. Those scholarships come in varying flavors--they can be given to everyone with a published stat (and no one else receives it, so they are buying higher stats) or to a handful of students who receive not just $$ but significant other perks as well (special mentors, special counseling/courses/meetings/internships/study abroad, etc) These scholarships are not the equivalent of institution grants which are given to all students who are accepted with $x of demonstrated need. Need is not factored into it all. Neither are they offered to all accepted students. Grants are typically more "equal opportunity" in terms of to everyone according to their need.
  11. Perspective matters, doesn't it. In the Catholic Church, African priests see the US as a spiritual mission field. It is rare that we have belonged to a parish that did not have a priest from Africa assigned to it. (The US has a shortage of priests.) We hear their real life stories all the time during their homilies. They have a very different perspective on our life here and what our society values.
  12. Can you afford to pay out-of-pocket the cost of attending the schools he has selected? If you can, than your are fine. If you can't, then his having a list of colleges might be completely useless. Without more information, anything we share is either hitting a target or like tossing a stone in the ocean. There is no standard answer. FA is family dependent. i can share our family's situation. It is absolute irrelevant what schools that can get accepted to. Period. Full stop. The entire focus of any and all conversations about college selection revolves around that one single point. For other families, that conversation is just a blip and then they move on to college matches, safeties,reaches based on student profile. My kids' matches, reaches, and safeties are based on financially being affordable. We find affordable schools and then, and only then, do they start looking at whether or not they like the school, etc. For example, my ds who is now at Berkeley for grad school had outcomes ranging $0 to $40,000/yr after he received all of his acceptances and FA packages. Our budget for each of our kids is only around $10,000 (essentially the cheapest room and board in existence. Room, board, books, fees can vary between $10-18,000 depending on the school. So, even full-tuition scholarships can leave a gap in what we can afford and what it will cost for them to attend.) Schools, otoh, expect our parental contribution to be approx 3x what we know we can realistically afford to pay across all our kids.His outcome variance came down to the size of the scholarships he received. At some schools he received their most competitive awards which led to full cost of attendance being covered. At others he got their scholarship that basically replaced institutional grant $$. We always add in the student contribution and hidden loans on top of all expected parental contribution bc that is the real dollar amt the school costs. Schools like to package their FA offers with all sorts of illusory breakdowns making it look like loans are aid and not real costs, etc. The bottom line $$ of total cost of attendance minus any FREE $$ equals your real family contribution, regardless of how they want to present the numbers. That ds's application season taught me a lot. We made a lot of missteps with him. He applied to schools he shouldn't have wasted his time on bc even with acceptances, he couldn't afford to attend. Acceptance without financial viability is really just a complete waste of time, energy and $$ (bc applying is not free.) IIRC, I think ds had to eliminate something like 4 schools off his acceptance list just due to costs exceeding $20,000. (For us it seems like costs are either close to what can afford or over $20,000. Not many fall into the range between $10-20,000 for whatever reason. Our dd's application season's outcomes left her with a much broader range of affordable options bc we targeted schools with a much better understanding of how FA really works and how students are selected for scholarships. Her options ranged from $0 to $20,000 (and the $20,000 school covered full-tuition and fees. Their out-of-pocket costs were strictly room, board, books, and transportation costs (required flying vs driving, so that $$ amt cannot be ignored.)) She was awarded several schools' most competitive scholarships, several competitive scholarships, and also automatic scholarships. She had more options to select based on what she personally wanted vs just cost. Only Fordham (the $20,000 school) had to be eliminated based on financial outcome. She had several good fit options to choose from and accepted the one that she liked the most. (Oops.ETA bc I had forgotten about it.....she also had to eliminate URochester. She didn't apply bc she was interested in it. She applied bc she didn't have to really do anything additional other thanclick on it on the CA and I asked her to. I wanted to see if she could get accepted as a homeschooler without any APs, DE, or real outside classes. The answer was yes, but it was unaffordable like I knew it would be. It was really just a simple curiosity check for me.) If that Dd had created a list just based on academic fit and matches (she had a more balanced app profile than her brother with higher test scores, NMF, and multiple international awards, etc) her list would have 100% different and the schools she did apply to wouldn't even have been on there. And, when all was said and done, I expect she might have been accepted to several of them (she recently found out that the other kids who were part of the international Olympiad team with her are all attending schools like HPYSM or other top competitive LACs) And, after getting those acceptances, she would have been forced to take a gap yr in order to reapply bc she wouldn't have been able to attend any of them bc we cannot afford 1/3 of what they expect us to pay. Acceptance without affordability is a piece of paper that ends up in the trash. So, that is a VERY long way of saying, does he have a list of real options that he can afford to attend or does he just have a list he created based on stats and personal desires bc those are definitely not the same thing. Schools that are meet-need only and do not offer scholarship $$ (like HPYMS), you can tell before they apply if they are financially affordable if your financial profile is fairly uncomplicated (no rental properties, no family-owned businesses, no non-custodial parent). Net price calculators will give fairly accurate results if information is input accurately. Those are also the schools where outside scholarship $$ will likely only ever net $5500 in gain, regardless of the total amt of the scholarships. Schools where they apply for competitive merit, those are trickier and definitely need to be considered reaches equivalent to HYP, etc in terms of % of likelihood. They can also have very early deadlines (your Nov 1 to mostly Jan timeline is another giveaway that you don't have a strong understanding of competive scholarships applications. Many schools typically have an Oct 15 to Nov 15 scholarship consideration deadline. GT's is Oct 15. USC's Honors College app states that they should apply for general admission by Oct 15 but that students have until Nov 15 for the HC/scholarship application deadline.) Some automatic merit schools have later deadlines varying from Dec 1 into Jan. Again, there is no single answer, but not knowing can mean being eliminated from being considered if the deadline isn't met. If you share more info, you will get more specific help. Otherwise, all responses can be like this one.....generic but probably useless to your ds's specific situation.
  13. Thrown it out. (I even threw out dd's stack full of chem stuff from this yr!) I have a few essays they wrote and I have kept my ds's alg 2 work as a full SM to Foerster's alg 2. Other than that, they may have kept a few things, but not me.
  14. Thanks for reminding me about the Sir books. I just ordered All the King's Tens for granddaughter.
  15. Look for funded opportunities. REUs pretty well-known options for STEM fields. This summer our Dd wanted to study abroad in Russia. The cost was going to be way above our budget. She is now at a fully funded Startalk Russian program in CA. It's not abroad, but the goal is increased speaking fluency and being immersed in daily speaking all summer will accomplish that goal for our cost of a plane ticket. And she has never been to that part of the country before, so it is still exciting for her in that regard. She also received research grant funding for the school yr to work with a professor who is researching language development under oppression. She is super excited about this bc this sort of topic is definitely an area of interest for her.
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