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  1. My son will be 14 next week and he still plays...He loves sports though and usually plays outside when he can, but he will still set up Lego and play with them...My younger two definitely will play more with toys than my oldest does, but he still plays...We don't have a video gaming system but we do own an Ipad mini, and he will play a few games on there as well...
  2. If the above statement is true, then there is a difference...It seems like CM can be used in a classical way or not according to what I see others saying...
  3. I understand and like what you are saying...I don't want you to think I started this thread to put CM in a negative light...Not at all...I just wonder why CM is now a synonym for classical...Her work should stand on its own and not need the brand of classical if that is not what she called herself...
  4. This is me, and I am still trying to come through on the other side... Teaching from a state of rest for me means not teaching things because of fear or worry...It is being prepared and not anxious...
  5. The bold above is it! Whether or not you need to "relax" depends on your starting point...Some people will push their kids to the breaking point to accomplish their goals - those people need to relax...I think the average person is not like that...If you know that you have not been consistent, you do not need to "relax"...A relaxed approach should be a conscience decision based on your needs and goals, not a state you are forced into due to lack of discipline...There are legitimate reasons to put school aside for a time, but again, that is a conscience decision...
  6. I know this is not the point, but I have never heard of anyone borrowing someone's schoolroom tables :tongue_smilie:
  7. I think I want to be 8Fill when I grow up :001_wub:
  8. It depends... I agree with simplicity in general in every area of life...For me, that simply means "enough is enough" and more than that is too much...Less than that is not enough... If you can relax, do less, and get wonderful results - you were probably doing too much... If you are not doing enough (most of us know when we have not been consistent or if we are having problems getting things done), then less will not be more...It will be less than what you were doing, which was not enough... I totally agree that less of too much is more...Being consistent with what is needed is best... The key is figuring out what you need...Do you really need two or three math programs to teach your child the same math principles (addition, fractions, etc)?...If you did one consistently, would your child still learn what he/she needs to know?...Being afraid of missing something seems to be what leads to doing too much...Making a conscience decision about what is needed without the fear and comparisons to other people, and being consistent with that, seems to lead to doing enough... Enough is actually all you need...Not more, not less...
  9. That was me that asked about classical in CM's day, thanks again...Do you educate in a CM way?
  10. I don't have a list of pros and cons, but what is in bold above is the reason I decided to no longer have a school room...We had one upstairs, and it was difficult to always have to be upstairs...I needed everyone downstairs with me so I can also do other things when needed...This will be the first time we will not have a school room, but I think it will be fine...I have one of those Ikea Trofast systems in the living room now with bins that I will keep the books we are currently in...The upstairs room is becoming a family room with a bookcase that will serve as the library for some books...Other books will go in totes in the basement until it is their turn to come upstairs, either to the library or part of our school books that year...And some other books that I am no longer fond of will be donated... If I had a room on the first floor, right by the kitchen, I would use that...But as it is, the room on the first floor by the kitchen is the dining room, so that is what we are using...A basement room or upstairs room doesn't work for us...
  11. I was impacted by the Circe thread...It helped me figure out what I want for my homeschool...
  12. The bold above...This...I will miss Cindy's blog and am really sorry that I was late to discover it...
  13. This makes sense, thanks for posting it...Liberal education as a term does make more sense...I also wonder why the move towards classical as a term... You clearly know more about this topic than I do and I thank you :001_smile:
  14. Cool...I teach English grammar Rod and Staff style using Rod and Staff :laugh:
  15. I am enjoying this thread because I wasn't apart of the threads that took place in the past I guess...I am not offended, don't want to let it go or release it, and I am enjoying the replies...
  16. Yes, I meant that while Latin is taught in both methods, Latin is the primary way to learn English grammar in classical (some classical educators feel explicit English grammar instruction is unnecessary if you learn Latin from a young age) while that is not the case in CM...English grammar is taught through lessons based on the living books you are reading, not taught through Latin...
  17. I can see what you are saying here, but I think this is a little different...I am not saying that CM or classical is more real, better, or worse, just different...Even with Christianity, the different denominations give others a clue as to what you believe...If I tell you that I am an Orthodox Christian, you may know what that is, not know, have opinions about it or don't, but you will know that I believe something different (at least on some level) than someone who says they are (fill in the blank)...But now if I told you that two different religions are now the same because of certain similarities, you may think to yourself, "But don't they feel differently about ____?"...All types of Christianity have something in common, but they are not the same...There are even similarities between some Christian and some non Christian religions...No judgments here, just facts...People believe different things...And educators believe different things... As far as the situation with CM, I am not saying CM is better or worse than classical...I am just stating that they have been seen as different for many years, now suddenly they are seen as the same when neither one of them has changed...Either they have been the same all along or not...Judging by the methods I see advertised as classical, and the methods I see advertised as CM, they seem different...And that is okay...No one is more real than the other...One may work better for you than the other though, and it is the combining of the two in the public arena that can confuse people...Classical is confusing enough without adding something else (which is the easiest to define) into the mix... I just think maybe people should stop calling things "classical" ...Just leave CM as CM instead of the CM version of classical...
  18. Another possible scenario is that CM wrote before all of these other Classical methods we know now - WTM, MP, Classical Conversations, LCC, Circe, whoever else I am missing, and what she describes is actually Classical and the rest of this stuff is not ;) What was the Classical Method at the time CM was educating and writing? I don't have the best answers...They just don't seem the same to me...
  19. For what it seems to me (I am no expert), these things are different...When I speak of classical, I am talking about WTM and MP...Circe falls into a different category to me, because it is not really a curriculum (except for Lost Tools of Writing), and seems to promote different things than MP and WTM does...There are differences between WTM and MP, but both are considered classical in most places... The goals of early childhood seem different to me...Classical has an emphasis on memorizing facts in order to be able to make connections with that knowledge later on...Narrations and questions are guided in a way that seems different than CM...Classical has the distinct stages of development, where CM does not...CM seems to have an emphasis on ideas and character formation more so than Classical...Narrations are handled differently... Short lessons in CM is different than the longer lessons found in Classical.. Writing is handled differently, as classical uses the progymnasmata and I don't think it is used in a CM education (CM educators may use or adapt it, but it is not a CM thing)... Grammar is handled differently as Classical uses Latin primarily to teach Grammar, and CM does not... I don't know enough about CM to point out all of the differences...I have to do more research for that...There are many similarities (depending on the method of Classical you use), but they are not the same...It seems as if what is viewed as important and how to make that happen differs...You can blend the two ideas, but if they were the same all along, then why are they just not the same...That last sentence probably makes no sense, but I can't think of another way to phrase it right now :tongue_smilie: ETA: I didn't even touch on Classical Conversations, which is also different than WTM, MP, or the other Classicals, but now some classicals seems to promote...I am not sure where LCC fall in all of this...
  20. I have been bookmarking and making Word documents of 8Fill's posts on writing for the past few years...It will be great to finally be able to have her thoughts and writings in a clear way in one volume...I am buying TC on Thursday :laugh: ...We start in September, so I will have to get moving...
  21. It may do a good job of explaining more about CM, but it cannot make CM and classical as we know it the same without changing the meaning of one or both of them...
  22. :lol: This makes sense...I also have never read Harry Potter, so I totally get this analogy :laugh:
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