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My dd is competing in collegiate nationals next weekend so dh and I are traveling to see her for the weekend. So excited! Then there are only 3 weeks of school left before summer break. She will only be home for a week before she travels to work at a summer camp all summer. I am excited for her but having a bit of self pity because I miss her. lol
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In his Biology class, Greg Landry has the students read In Six Days-- Why 50 Scientists Choose to Believe in Creation and it was a great supplement. Also, I am not a Ken Ham fan, but AIG does have great resources.
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4 hours ago, Corraleno said:
If the main reason you want to give him an extra year is maturity/executive function, and he doesn't really need more coursework, have you considered just doing a gap year instead of an extra year of HS? My DS has ADHD and executive function issues and wasn't ready to go away to college after his senior year, so he did a gap year. It allowed him to really focus on his sport that year, plus made recruiting easy because he was talking to coaches in spring of his senior year and after he graduated, so they had all his final stats, test scores, etc.
When you say "memory issues," do you mean poor working memory? Were there also issues with processing speed (those often go together)? One very good reason for continuing to pursue testing "late in the game" is the potential need for accommodations in college. DS definitely needed that paperwork to get extra time and a distraction-free space for tests, plus I think the fact that he was registered with the college's disability office made his profs more sympathetic to lapses in executive function.
Interesting, I assumed it would make the recruiting process tricky if did just a "gap year." Also, I am not sure I want him to take a year off of school.
As for his memory problems-- testing showed deficits in short term memory (direct recall and working memory) as well as long term memory (auditory and visual) as well as visual and auditory processing. His processing speed is actually good.
As for needing accommodations in college, that is fair. He could certainly benefit there.
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My baby will be in high school. ugh. craziness.
Math: Mr. D Honors Geometry
English: still debating but probably Lantern English for writing, homegrown lit, and maybe compass classroom Grammar for writers or maybe Excelsior Classes for an online English
Spanish 2: Avancemos 2 with a small group I teach
Logic: Art of Argument with Scholé Academy
At Co-Op:
Notgrass geography
Biblical Foundations: intro to hermeneutics and exegesis and Biblical doctrine
Berean Builders Biology: self placed videos with labs at co-op
with lots of volleyball and soccer
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On 3/10/2024 at 7:08 PM, MagistraKennedy said:
RE: (C)APD vs ADHD ---
When was his evaluation for (C)APD? Was ADHD ruled out first? Have you gone through any sort of therapy/treatment to help the (C)APD?
I think a comprehensive evaluation may be your best bet.
With my son who has (C)APD, he was evaluated, then the psychologist sent us off to the audiologist.
Psychologist: "Hmm. He's an enigma. I can tell you definitively that he does not have dyslexia, nor ADHD. I think testing for APD is reasonable."
His numbers at the audiologist were terrible, and we did therapy at home which helped tremendously.
A comprehensive eval was very helpful for us, as I learned exactly what was going on, instead of guessing. It enabled me to better help him.his eval was 2021 I believe. ADHD was not officially ruled out however, when we saw the pediatric behaviorist she seemed lost as to what was going on -- ds doesn't fit "in a box" and diagnosing seems challenging.
we did go through a full testing with nectar group and they said he did not have the marker for adhd. He did show memory issues.
no treatment. we have felt a bit lost navigating it. They did recommend more testing-- a full psycho educational eval but we waited so long to do it and then wondered if it would be helpful at this late in the game?
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1 hour ago, EKS said:
In my son's case, meds (nonstimulant, in his case) have made a huge difference.
We are meds hesitant but not opposed. However, he doesn't have an official ADHD diagnosis. Everything we have read and heard has a really hard time distinguishing auditory processing disorder (which he has) and ADHD because the symptoms are the same. We are unsure how to get an accurate diagnosis.
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On 2/24/2024 at 11:13 AM, EKS said:
As an aside, what I thought was "needing more maturity" was actually undiagnosed ADHD which was never going to be fixed with time alone.
This is an absolute concern I have.
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17 hours ago, Lori D. said:
From what you describe, "held back academically" might be the only exception the student would be eligible for in doing a super senior year -- and that could potentially be really rough on a student's self-esteem.
This is a big thing for sure. I don't want him to take this as a hit emotionally. He actually is a good students -- A's and B's. but I have to play a way bigger part in helping him (organization, focus, executive functioning stuff). He needs to mature in these areas -- which to me are so closely tied to academics they pretty much are -- but yet they aren't.
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17 hours ago, Lori D. said:
The main concern I see would be if he has already officially played a season (or part of a season) of high school sports.
My understanding is that a student only gets 4 years of high school sports eligibility, so if a student does 5 years of high school (a "super senior year), they would likely have to be "red shirted" (sidelined) from competitive play for 1 year of those 5 years of high school, in order to maintain eligibility for college sports.
That could potentially interfere with 11th and 12th grades when most of the videos are sent out to colleges for college recruitment interest of the students, if the student is having to sit out 11th, 12th, or 13th (super senior) grade year.
From what I can see from a quick online search, it looks like:In most states, there is a 4-year athletic eligibility rule that student-athletes must abide by, which means that students can only participate in high school sports for a maximum of four years. This rule applies to all student-athletes, regardless of the sport they play.
The four-year athletic eligibility rule typically starts counting from the first day of a student’s freshman year of high school. This means that any participation in high school sports during their freshman year will count towards their four-year limit. Even if a student-athlete chooses not to participate in sports until their sophomore or junior year, those years will still be counted towards their eligibility.
Key exceptions that allow for 5th year participation in high school sports:
- Injury/illness rule
- Transfers and residency requirements
- Held back academically
- Extenuating circumstances
(student has had to take time off from school due to personal or family reasons, or if there are extenuating circumstances that have affected their ability to participate in their sport)
From what you describe, "held back academically" might be the only exception the student would be eligible for in doing a super senior year -- and that could potentially be really rough on a student's self-esteem.
Good luck as you research to determine what your options are (or aren't).Thank you. Yes, he would not be able to play high school his super senior year, but in his sport it is not a big deal. He could play club due to his age up through April of his super senior year due to his birthday which would line up fine for recruiting.
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Please do not quote as I may delete.
We are considering offering ds the possibility of a super senior year. We have not declared his graduation date where it matters (NCAA or DE) so the possibility exists. He has some learning differences, executive functioning challenges, and could use another year to mature. He wants to got he collegiate athlete/ recruiting path so its not as simple as just graduate and do a year at the CC then transfer.
His coach has asked us if we would consider giving him a year to work on his sport to be college ready the following year.
We would not do it just for that, but academically and emotionally-- it's not a terrible plan.
What are some cons we could not be thinking of? (ultimately if we decide it is an option we would allow the coach to bring up the idea to ds to make it seem like it was all about the sport (it is to the coach) and leave the rest out to not make him feel bad about it. and ultimately leave the final decision up to him.
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On 2/13/2024 at 5:58 PM, Masers said:
Excellent! Did she go into any sort of STEM/math field, by chance?
She is doing her undergrad in exercise science with the goal of physical therapy school.
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I have had 2 kids take the Schole logic courses. I love them. My oldest says that Art of Argument was arguably the best class she ever had (in reference to how she relates to life now) lol We had two different teachers and very different experiences but they were both excellent. My ydd will be starting the sequence next year -- a year behind my older kids-- due to a scheduling conflict we had this year. I am looking forward to her taking it!
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20 minutes ago, flmom79 said:
Oh, you have done the self paced -- tell me about it! I had been reluctant to try that because 1) I had heard that some students find it too easy to do well on the quizzes/assignments simply through going through the modules and without fully reading the texts and 2) tying into that, the concern that screen time easily becomes overdone, and I thought that engagement would be more likely in a live class (if screens were unavoidable) than adding in more video modules that could make it easy to zone out/become distracted. Could you allay these concerns for me (or not)?
My kids did NOT find the quizzes and tests easy. Again though, more average students. I definitely think a live class would have offered a higher level of engagement and discussion but I had 2 kids in the same class so we did discussions together. It is a trade off, for us the self paced won out for flexibility and a desire not to spend our entire day doing one things. I also have competitive athletes so we had a lot of practices to work around.
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On 2/7/2024 at 5:33 PM, flmom79 said:
So, to be clear, your kids have tried the VP diploma program? Because I do appreciate that the VP diploma math is on level for an accelerated student, but there is quite a bit of weight towards the humanities -- so you are saying that your students felt they were not able to give attention to their math courses bc of Omnibus? As a 3 credit class, I can see that could be difficult.
not the poster you quoted-- but we did a couple of years of Omnibus. I love it, but we chose not to do live classes for a reason. We did the self paced with the "audit" function so we could skip a few books and not drown. It was a great option. Another vote to check out Schole. We have loved every class we have taken with them.
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23 hours ago, Masers said:
Thanks! Are your older kids graduated? Did you feel Mr. D adequately prepared them for college? (If they went?)
My oldest graduated last year. She completed College Algebra, Precalc and Statistics through DE all before she graduated. She felt very prepared.
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We had a mini disaster this week with dd and I am blown away with how much she has grown in maturity and how she is handling being 15 hours away from us. So thankful! She has been dealing with mold in her dorm since she moved in August and they have bleached it a few times but that obviously doesn't work. She along with my dh have been on disaster relief teams for years and know how to treat mold. So dd treated it with shockwave several times but it's deep in the walls and not helping. DD has a serious mold allergy and has been sick since she moved in. It all culminated a few days ago when dd called me and she had an anaphylactc reaction -- throat closing, couldn't breathe, rash all over face and neck. She took her inhaler but called to tell me she forgot her epic pen at home (AGHGHGHGHG). Thankfully Benadryl was able to get it to stop and she spent the night at a friends in a different building. Next day she went to the dean's office and pleaded her case to get into another dorm ASAP. My husband had to get involved and send a strong email but thankfully she is being moved.
Man, that was stressful. I am thankful she is ok and that she is advocating for herself and knows when to get us involved.
Now I am seriously hoping the next 2 pick schools closer to home! lol
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10 hours ago, Masers said:
That is great to hear! Thank you. He goes through calculus, right? I am going to a homeschool conference next month and they are having someone from Mr. D come to talk. I’m going to go to all the math talks before I make a final decision. Leaning towards Derek Owens, but Mr. D is a strong contender.
Mr D does go through Calculus. Mr D's convention talks are always excellent -- not sure if he is the one going to be there but if he is, he is great!
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We have been very happy with Mr. D Math. My oldest completed Algebra 1 through Precalc. DS pre algebra through currently doing Precalc. YDD preagebra through currently doing Algebra 1. Happy to answer any questions you have!
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I missed the original question but I did the recruiting process with my oldest (she is a collegiate powerlifter). Working on it now with my ds (tennis) and then next up will be my youngest (volleyball) in a few years. Do you have the book Looking for a Full Ride? The book by Coach Renee Lopez and her FB page "Educating Parents of HS Athletes" is a wealth of help. Happy to help in any way I can!
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your concerns are exactly why we have not done Veritas. I love the idea of it and considered it many times, but for us it would cost us many of the reasons we homeschool. I also think it takes a very certain type of student to thrive. My kids are average students-- they would not thrive with that work load. We have found that 3 live classes are about the Max most of mine can handle well without it causing excess stress. I have graduated one and she is thriving in college, succeeded in taking 38 college credits before she graduated. You have to know your student. VPA is VERY rigorous. It is not a good fit for any of mine. Individual classes sure -- but not the diploma program. And not having an "accredited" diploma is not a problem at all.
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I think an A.S. is a good goal, but I wouldn't sacrifice the relationship for it. If you can get him onboard great. If you can't, can you compromise? Have him take the equivalent of a high school load in DE classes -- he graduates with a lot of college credits though short of an A.S. degree -- but he is a step ahead should he decide to go back at some point?
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Thank you all! I needed a reminder about grace. I have taught in the class room and it is true, I give grace, remind students, give partial credit. . . and November and December were truly a blur for our family. I offered myself grace and he should get the same. I think I just needed permission to do that as I feel like I am "cheating" by giving him a higher grade on an online course than the one assigned . . .Thank you all for your input.
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College Algebra is a very common next step after Algebra 2.
My oldest 2 have gone through Mr D. Precalc -- older dd simultaneously completed college algebra with it and then went on to take DE Statistics and Precalc her senior year. DS is completing precalc this year and will do college algebra DE next year.
If they aren't looking to get into highly competitive schools I don't think it would matter. Many majors don't require anything above college algebra. and if you do it on your own and clep it, no one would even know if you did it in one semester or a year. One thing we considered for ds was to do College Algebra "Prep" for fall and then take it DE in the spring. In the end he chose to take precalculus this year ...but it has been a struggle. On the transcript you don't delineate between college courses that are a semester for a credit and whole year high school credit
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We have used a plethora of online classes over the years and I just take the grade they earned and put it on the transcript. But I find myself in a dilemma at the moment. DS just finished an elective (speech and debate) class in which he did excellent work as demonstrated by his grades (mostly) however this child has major executive functioning issues but is growing tremendously in maturity and with his EF challenges. He somehow failed to submit 5 assignments from November to December. During that time, my brother quickly declined in his battle to lung cancer and passed away just after Christmas. I obviously was not as present as I normally am, however, I don't usually check up much on online classes -- I let them own those. In the end, the missed assignments left him with an 89.3 in the class.
Do I give him the B and tell him to get it together. He earned it. Be more responsible.
Grant some grace and make sure those 5 assignments are completed and give him the grade he would have earned had he submitted those on time -- an A.
He is a junior and thus far has 2 B's on his transcript -- one online class and one mom taught. It wouldn't be his only B but I hate for him to have a B in an elective and for something that had the chaos around us not been happening, wouldn't have happened. His work was A work but being responsible in submitting assignments on time is important as well.
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oh my! I guess I need two download everything for Avancemos 1 and not sure what to do about Avancemos 2 next year. 🫣