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I'll talk about it here, because others have made similar observations about the disparate levels of concern. This does have to do with Ebola. As those of us living in Dallas understand, so much about this discussion is emotional hype, with very little objective information being shared. It's all about rumor, hearsay, anecdotes, and projected worse case scenarios more in line with Outbreak than the CDC.
And one of the most glaring proofs for this is constant underlying tone of hysteria present in so many posts here about a disease that has so far infected one person, has the focus of national and regional health agencies, all while kids the nation over, are being infected, suffering paralysis from, and even dying from another disease that rose up from the annals of medical texts.
I'm not sitting here anxious about either disease, but even I can see which virus is more likely to affect my family. And I work alongside several West Africans, in Dallas.
I'm beyond exasperated at the lack of an even handed, logical approach to much of this discussion.
I think it's due in part to the CDC not having as much credibility as they ought to in this situation. They say they know how this disease is transmitted, and then people who supposedly have taken appropriate precautions come down with the disease. Then they say it needs to be handled in a certain way, and people are allowed to waltz into contaminated areas without any protection at all. Then you have hospitals that have had training in this specific issue only one week prior, and they send a symptomatic Liberian man home to infect others.
It doesn't take much to have your credibility power washed away.
Maybe your exasperation should be directed toward the people at the top.
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I think the camera man who was working for NBC in Liberia got the virus when he was disinfecting a vehicle.
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I'm confused about why they would transport him by ambulance if he doesn't have symptoms. There isn't a travel ban, I'm assuming their policy won't be to transport everyone who has been in Liberia by ambulance to a hospital. If it is I would think we should just institute a travel ban. It's an odd story.
Maybe ambulances are easier to disinfect than other forms of transportation that don't have a protocol. If ebola is diagnosed.
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I should've said who "doesn't" know.
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Tonight's news is they were saying the spread throughout Europe in inevitable.
I can't imagine the U.S. would be very far behind, but who knows.
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I saw that a CNN reporter was puzzled and sort of horrified that upon her return from Liberia, there was NO airport screening.
They're really on top of this stuff!
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2. The OP is not simply bashing this person, but actively asking for help in how to deal with a tough situation.
If you re-read it, it asks for opinions on this woman's behavior, not for help in how to deal with a tough situation. Nice of everyone to offer though!
I think ceasing the affiliation with Christianity is also an option, as that seems to be a sticking point.
I once saw someone who professed to be a vegetarian nibbling on a chicken wing. Backsliders are available in all varieties when it comes to human beings.
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Each time they ask they get a fresh chore.
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Well, I wondered the same thing until last year we went to a field trip on the reservation and the word "Indian" was everyone-- on banners, flyers, etc all marketed and produced by the "native Americans." Obviously they use the word....
Some "brave" person needs to inform them they are ignorant and rude!
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We have a neighbor lady (professes to be a Christian) and she is over here right now bashing and slamming the manager of our mobile home park. I think she is out of line. I think she needs to implement the "what would Jesus do?" thing instead of talking about other people behind their back and then running them into the ground.
What do you think?
Probably a lot of our lives wouldn't measure up to your standard.
But this is sort of the online version of the same thing, isn't it?
I mean, I don't know if this lady has good cause for her complaints. Maybe she does!
Now if we were both Jesus, we would've written something on Wordpad that no one but ourselves could see...
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He wouldn't be taken to jail until he was no longer contagious. Many, many times patients are arrested at the hospital or upon discharge. I've had patients who knew they were likely to be arrested upon discharge just walk out of the hospital while they were waiting to be discharged. And when you see sheriff's deputies outside a room at a hospital, chances are very high that inside is not a friend, but a criminal.
I think it was irresponsible, but probably everyone will be fine. UV light kills ebola. Drying out kills ebola on most surfaces (glass seems to be one exception). Some studies have shown it's dead within a few hours, but after a few days, outside, in the sun, it was probably dead. If they mixed chlorine with the water, or even spraying with chlorinated city water, it should have killed the virus, according to that Richard Besser doctor on ABC.
Chlorinated city water kills ebola? That's a relief. Good old tap water!
I think we're good, then.
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Tell her she can't be friends with the mean girl anymore?
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The Dallas Weekly is advertising "Taste of Africa Comes to Dallas" this week.
How's that for timing.
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So here's a piece of info I came across today which I offer just as an FYI, not to scare anyone etc. ...
dogs can carry it. They're asymptomatic carriers.
"During the early phase of their infection, however, they can spread the disease to humans and other animals through licking, biting, urine, and feces."
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/canine-corner/201409/can-dogs-get-infected-the-ebola-virus
& the original study http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/11/3/pdfs/04-0981.pdf
Wonder how long that vomit was on the sidewalk! Even now they just sort of spread it around...
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Yikes, another Liberian on a flight from Brussels with ebola symptoms, and apparently vomited on the plane. This time the CDC staff in hazmat gear met the plane. How scary for those travelers.
It wouldn't shock me if a lot of people in the affected countries concluded that exposure to ebola is a death sentence there, but that they can get great medical care in the U.S. if they could only get here before becoming symptomatic.
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It does take the flu shot several weeks to confer immunity.
How long does it take to confer the flu?
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Maybe he's familiar with the Jacob Wetterling story and therefore has a superabundance of caution.
How well do you know the neighbors?
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Well, the CDC says there's absolutely nothing to worry about unless/until someone develops symptoms. So I guess I'd be as relaxed as people on three different plane flights have been. Do you trust the worker to mention anything, or stay home if they develop symptoms?
As people here are wont to say, "you're more likely to die of the flu."
Small comfort!
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It's probably cheaper to the agency if he dies than for them to take the appropriate safety precautions. Assuming Texas worker's comp system is anything similar to Georgia's. :(
Okay, what, REALLY? I'm not a person who is sue-happy, but if that were to happen somebody should get sued BIG TIME by the men's families.
I'm amazed at the gross level of negligence on PUBLIC display there. It does not inspire confidence about what may or may not be happening out of sight.
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I hope that people who are panicking over Ebola are all getting flu shots this season, because I can guarantee more Americans will die of flu over the next few months than of Ebola.
My brother-in-law got talked into a flu vaccine last week. Today he's got the flu. Flu isn't going around here yet, but maybe he'll touch it off!
You will *always* find more people to die of something else. But the U.S. has spent billions, maybe trillions, on terrorism prevention etc. and your chances of dying in a terrorist attack are what, not huge, right?
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The guy in Dallas who has Ebola flew through Belgium on his way to the US?
So stopping direct US-Liberia flights isn't going to have any effect. (Are there even any?)
Would they need a visa to enter the U.S.? I'm thinking a policy wherein anyone coming from Liberia would have to have either a 3-week quarantine, (perhaps for Americans), or be denied entry to the U.S.
I wouldn't dictate anything to Liberia, but make them aware of whatever policy we had.
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Seeing on the teevee that a large Hazmat truck is just NOW arriving at the Ebola Home.
Better late than never!
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This idea keeps coming up and it completely flummoxes me--why in the world do people think the US can control who enters and leaves other sovereign countries? Do we think other countries can or should control who enters or leaves the US???
Could France, for example, unilaterally decide to stop all air traffic in and out of the US?
I really am beginning to wonder if some people realize that the United States is a sovereign country on equal standing with every other sovereign country in the world, not somehow in charge of everyone else...
I don't know, has that been suggested?
I'm talking about who enters and leaves the U.S.
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Aside from the fact that, once again, we have no authority to stop all air traffic into and out of another sovereign country...
You do realize that the vast majority of people in Liberia are not infected with Ebola, correct? And can you acknowledge that it is probably going to take months to eradicate active infections from the country?
How do you think it would impact the United States if all air traffic into and out of the country were stopped for six months, or a year? Think that might have negative effects on the economy? Destabilizing effects on the government?
If we did it for Israel, why wouldn't we have the authority to do it for Liberia? Don't we have the authority to issue directives to our own airlines, and permit who and who does not have permission to land in the U.S.? For example, if Cuba wanted to send a commercial airliner to the U.S. without our permission, could they do so? I guess I don't know who rules the skies, in general, but I thought we had jurisdiction over our own airports.
Maybe as a compromise we could route all West African air traffic to a specific U.S. airport specially designed to handle the situation, and to process passengers more thoroughly than a standard U.S. airport.
I have no idea how many negative effects it would have on the economy to stop all air traffic to/from Liberia coming to the U.S. for (arbitrarily) six months, but I can well imagine the negative effects if ebola starts getting out of hand in this country.
If Liberians with ebola and U.S. passports see that a quick flight to the U.S. results in immediate treatment far better than what they can expect in Africa, and at no charge, you could hardly blame them for doing everything they could to get here in that circumstance.
Just something to think about!
Is there not an Ebola in Dallas thread yet?
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See how easy it is to diagnose over the internet?
This stuff is starting to be overtaken by events, actually.