I added the Writing Revolution to my amazon cart! Thanks!

I agree. I am taking a look at what she is doing for our co-op and what we are doing at home and seeing how I can incorporate additional writing without putting her over the edge.

She does both, summarizing and hear/write I've added quite a few rhetoric and comp books to my Amazon cart to see what I can find to help us along.

I have Writing with Skill, I'll look at it again.

I agree, she will not do the writing portion of the SAT. None of the schools she is interested in require it.

I'll take a look at They Say/I Say, thanks! I agree, it would be so much easier if she were a natural 'thinker', but she is not. All of my other children are, so that makes the writing generally easier with exception of my dyslexic child. But, you can't make someone want to ponder the universe if they have no desire to do so. I've tried, but it doesn't work unfortunately, so we'll do the best we can with what we have.

This is enormously helpful. Thank you so much! So as an update, I've removed her from the summer writing class she was taking, it wasn't helping at all. I have dropped her dual credit class for fall as I think it will be too much writing. She is taking Physics, Precal, Worldview and some electives through our co-op this coming year, so I will work on adding writing to the mix

Thank you!

Good idea about the thinking important and interesting questions. She really doesn't care to ponder/think about things, she is more of a rote do the next thing kind of person. Her younger siblings do enough thinking/questions for the whole family I think :). I do actually have copies of books for freshman comp since my eldest has already taken the class. Thanks!

Thank you for this review. EIW is the other program I'm really looking at I may just buy both.

Yes, adapting I can do. Although I agree, the IEW starts with stories which will be a struggle.

I'll definitely be sitting with her as she writes and helping. I don't feel capable of creating a writing program though, I'll need to purchase something that functions as a writing program/full curriculum

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Yes. She balked, but was already crying so I will have to try again later. She is just a academically capable, but academically reluctant kiddo. She doesn't care a bit for learning, doesn't have a desire to know more and really just wants to be left alone to her animals. It doesn't help that older sister is an academic superstar, lots of scholarships and loves to learn and talk about all things bookish.

We looked at a full IEW lesson for level C this morning. She didn't love the fact that it focused on writing stories, so I am not sure I can get her to do it. She will never write a story without much gnashing of teeth, so if that is more than one section then I don't think it will work. We also watch Essentials in Writing grade 9 to see what it was like for comparison, it looks similar, just structured a bit differently. I had her rate the list that Lori D. provide (reasons students struggle) and she put not being able to deal with writing as a multi-stage process as her number one difficulty, hasn't "clicked" yet with how to build a supported argument and her number 2 struggle and finally struggles with coming up with the "commentary" sentences in the paragraph as the third most difficult. After a an hour so looking she laid on the ground and cried and said she would rather quit school than ever look at writing again. Sigh. She is now looking at jobs that don't require a college degree and are manual labor only. On the upside, I think IEW level 3 would be great for my 8th grader. She loves to write but tends to ramble, so the program will help her organize her thoughts.

I've printed all of this out for us to go over. I want her to have some buy in here, so we'll look at IEW and perhaps a few others and move forward. Thanks again!

Definitely something to explore with her. I'll show her this. Thank you!

I'm going to go over this with her later, and see if she can identify which areas she struggles with more, but I'm guessing she'll say all of it. 😁 Thank you for taking the time to write all this out. We are dedicating some time this afternoon to reading the suggestions on this thread and seeing how we can move forward. I've had her in writing classes over the last four years but never with a one-on-one tutor. I can definitely look into that

I don't think I could teach this way. I made it through all of high school and a bachelor's degree and a master's degree of science without ever taking a lick of geometry, so I can't apply writing to something I don't understand myself. She completely understands geometry but I don't think I can switch writing to a mathematical language.

This is such a good point

Wonderful! Off too look.

I also hate to argue and will avoid it unless absolutely no other choice. I don't feel like I have pyche problems because I hate arguing.

We've actually taken a look at this, but it was over her head for now. She is a good note taker for lectures, so that is not an issue fortunately. She is currently taking two dual credit history courses this summer and has a high A average because she is able to take good notes and use those on tests. But if she had to write a compare/contrast paper on WW2, she'd be sunk.

Thank you, I didn't realize they were releasing a new Level C.

No attitude issues, she just really has not a single idea of what to put in on a piece of paper. She doesn't care to read for fun, but will read what I make her. She will be a math/computer person in her adult life that never has to read a book and will probably never choose too. My other kids adore words, she just doesn't.