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Such a wonderful news! Big congrats!!! :hurray: :hurray:
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Was this recently? With an online provider or a B&M school? How old was your DS at the time?
My kids are a long way off, but, like the others, I was hoping to knock off a few APs early.
He was with an online provider two years ago as a homeschooler and at a B&M school last year. I was not too concerned whether it was listed as AP or not at the time. He was younger than 9th grade.
Maybe as they said in the doc, it's "guiding enrollment policy", and they recognize the "autonomy of secondary schools and districts in setting AP course participation policies". After all, schools set the standard for high school students, and they don't lower the standard just for a few younger students. Just my thoughts.
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I was aware of the document when DS was enrolled in AP courses prior to 9th grade, and was not sure how to interpret it. But it turned out that "AP" was listed on the transcripts.
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http://www.totalregistration.net/AP-Exam-Registration-Service/2015-AP-Exam-Score-Distributions.phpDoes anyone know if other score distributions are up?
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For the DC area, we found that VA high schools were open to non-registered students and had no issue. I think the registration is a 5-10 day period in early Feb. I would call and get points of contact and timelines early in the year. I tended to call in Oct for AP exams and in April to ask about fall PSAT.
Fairfax Co has some high schools that are IB schools. They offer fewer AP exams than do schools that have AP but no IB program. Woodson HS is one in particular that was friendly.
I don't know what they are open to wrt exams for courses they don't offer. I do know that Latin and German were still available available when we left the area.
There may be a reason VA is friendly for homeschoolers to take AP exams. According to state law (section 22.1-254.1.F):
"F. School boards shall implement a plan to notify students receiving home instruction pursuant to this section and their parents of the availability of Advanced Placement (AP) and Preliminary Scholastic Aptitude Test (PSAT) examinations and the availability of financial assistance to low-income and needy students to take these examinations. School boards shall implement a plan to make these examinations available to students receiving home instruction."
Wonder if there are similar laws in some other states.
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quark, DS is taking AoPS cal right now. For him, the workload is not as much as that of his previous AoPS courses. He estimated the time used for homework was normally between 1- 4 hrs/wk. It might have taken longer than that a couple of weeks when he got stuck on one or two problems. He also has the opportunity taking AP Cal elsewhere. Though the content is not as in-depth as AoPS cal, the workload was much heavier. I was concerned in the beginning of the year that taking both might be too much, but he didn't want to skip AoPS cal. Somehow the practice from his AP might have helped with his AoPS course.
Since your DS has taken DE cal, I would think AoPS cal shouldn't take too much time for him. However, mine didn't have time to go through everything in AoPS book, so it might take more time if yours wants to use the book more thoroughly.
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Fantastic! Congratulations Ruth! :hurray: :hurray: :hurray:
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sadly, the only copies i see for sale are priced at over $400. I will not pay that. I would rather seek it in a university library.
I searched up and saw two English versions available on this website (never bought from them before)
The more expensive one (seems to be the same version as the one on Amazon, but cheaper)
The bilingual version is much cheaper on Chinese book website (about US $26 plus shipping), but it seems they don't ship it outside China.
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I am tempted to look for a Chinese copy of the Nine Chapters. The first time I read it was the part on Pascal's triangle.
Some online Chinese versions:
http://ctext.org/nine-chapters/zhs
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Yay Ruth! Big congrats to DS :hurray:
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Have you checked the samples from Canadian Math Kangaroo website? HTH
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That sounds like it would be plenty of information, so that I wouldn't need a teacher's edition. Did you feel that way? (I do have a background in statistics from grad school days, but haven't looked at it in 20 years....)
My kid is taking it at school, where textbook and solutions are provided. I only read the first a few chapters so far, so I'm not an expert to give you advice on this. But personally I would think the book itself is enough, at least based on 4th ed. Do you have to order them together? Maybe order the textbook first to see if it's good enough?
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Guess it depends on the definition of solutions. The book I referred to is 9781429245593. Some of the MC type of questions have answers only, and the rest of questions (including some MC type) have decent solutions. I compared the textbook to certain chapters of the pdf version of the Solutions Manual, and the solutions are the same, except that for problems from Exercises section, only odd-numbered answers/solutions are provided in the textbook, while in the Solutions Manual, all problems have solutions.
Not sure if there's a different TM that contains more detailed solutions.
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The fourth edition has answers or solutions to all Check Your Understanding questions, odd-numbered Exercises, all AP Review Exercises and all Practice Test problems in the back.
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just an update that my letter to the New York address requesting a copy of his essay was returned to sender today. :glare: USPS was unable to forward it.
quark, the old PO box address obviously doesn't work any more since my letter was also returned. CB provided a new address, and I just received a copy of the essay after a few weeks of wait time. In case you'd like to try it again, here it is :)
College Board SAT ProgramAttn: Search Scores/EssayPO box 025505Miami, FL 33102-
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Kathy, thanks so much for the clarification and the link:)
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Dd jumped right into Physics C without algebra-based physics first. She decided to take the physics subject test in June & did equally well, but she first had to spend a lot of time between May's AP exam and June's SAT 2 filling in the gaps (waves, light & optics, etc) from Giancoli. AP Physics C only covers mechanics & electricity/magnetism, albeit at a higher calc-based level.
Kathy,
Was calculus-based Physics your DD's first physics course? Had she had other physics background before taking C? Thanks!
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Planning to sign up for PA Homeschoolers AP Chemistry in a month or so when I have the money to pay for it.
He allows you to sign up first and pay later, maybe before early bird deadline.
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Ruth, DS thinks Algebra 3's difficulty level increased quite a lot later on, which is typical for AoPS courses. Inter NT is probably the exception, where the difficulty level is kind of consistent throughout. To him, Alg 3 was one of the challenging courses he's taken so far. As for the class size, I wish in general AoPS classes could be smaller too. But we noticed that it is not unusual that a few weeks in, the number of students who regularly come to the classroom settles to much a smaller number.
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What is your grading scale? Perhaps with AoPS, 80% is an A? I know that in the intermediate number theory class my son was told that he should always have at least 1 problem he cannot do, or he is in a class that is too easy (and it looks to us like they always put an impossible problem into each challenge set). There are only 10 problems per week. So in my book, if my son can get 8 out of 10, he deserves an A. And I think that AoPS agrees with me because ds gets into 'blue' (the top level) with around 75%.
Another thing I have done when we first started AoPS, is let him learn with AoPS but then made the tests using standard algebra problems from Jacobs. Then I could expect 95% and up to be an A.
Ruth in NZ
Ruth, in case you're not aware of this, for homework from AoPS online classes, the proof problems are weighted three times as heavily as the short answer ones.
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Thank you snowbeltmom! I was aware but have not decided what to do. If he tests in June, I am not sure if he will receive the results before the end of the month to request that the scores are retained? Should I write to them sooner?
He is taking the SAT in March and I will have those results sooner so easier to decide for SAT but not sure what to do for the subject tests.
Last time I asked them about this(a while ago), they told me they didn't really follow the end of June rule that strictly. You can take some extra time to think about whether to retain the score if you test in June. I don't remember how much extra time though. This was only based on one rep's answer. If you'd like to clarify with them, maybe call them up before register?
My two will take general one in March, and one will take one or two subject ones in June as well :) I think for general, our testing center has separate rooms for younger kids, but not for the subject ones.
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Stephanie, mine loves this course, challenging yet fun! Today we actually just checked the number theory class offered by Stanford OHS to see if that'd be a good follow up down the road though the price tag of that one seems way too high (I remember Kathy in Richmond mentioned that one before.) My DS is also taking AP Chem this year and found both manageable. He started Chem first, got familiar with the pace and format before he added Inter NT a few months after. He's concurrently taking AoPS Precal which overlaps with NT for about 8 weeks. Based on the time he's spent on his homework, I think for him, Precal is relatively easier than this NT course, at least for the first a few weeks of Precal.
As quark mentioned, maybe have your DS take the pre and post tests, let him try out the class and get a feel of the pace and difficulty level. Has he taken any other AoPS courses before? If he's familiar with the format, it might be a little easier for him to handle this one. This one lasts only a few months while AP Chem lasts a whole year. The next NT class starts in May and ends in Aug. If he takes it in Summer, then it will be done before AP Chem starts. This way maybe he won't be overloaded.
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I was referring to number 7 here. Reports from talent searches might be in a different format, and also differ in coverage/ analysis. I'm not sure what the differences are between different talent search (and CB) score reports but I thought it will be helpful to at least be able to see DS's SAT essay.
quark, for those under 13, one can request a copy of the essay even if you're not with talent search by writing to CB: The College Board, PO Box 234112, New York, NY 10023
See here.
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I only read through the posts quickly. I understand that every family and every kid is different, here's just our own experience. One of my kids has been doing AoPS for a while and really loves it. But sometimes I miss the before AoPS years when he had the pure joy of learning, discovering and exploring, with never-ending curiosity and passion. We didn't stick to any curriculum, but he learned so much through reading, discussing, creating etc. We didn’t pay attention to testing and levels, but even though acceleration was not our original focus at the time, he ended up accelerating quite a bit and was well prepared for AoPS, I still remember the time when he woke me up in countless early mornings in order to talk to me about some new math that he had come up with at night so that he wouldn't forget about them. Now that he’s older, AoPS brings him different kind of enjoyment and satisfaction, mixed with learning to persevere and overcome difficulties. These are what he needs at this stage. But nothing could have replaced the pure joy of math learning when he was younger and I still cherish those memories.Wish you the best in your search of the right way to provide a good education for your kids!
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I believe it's based on sitting. If you take more than one subject test on the same day, then you may choose to save all or none of the scores for the same sitting by June of that year. If you'd like to be sure, maybe give them a call?
HTH.