I'm still deciding on what to use for world history.

If anyone is using BF curriculum, could you help me with a couple of questions? 1) Are there two editions of the US and World History? I notice on some of the sale boards there seems to be a newer edition. 2) I also noticed that on the BF web site there are some books that are published by BF. Does anyone know if this is the case with the older edition curriculum guide? 3) Have any of you used any other BF guides for high school? Thanks in advance!

If I do, I will let you know my opinion. Thanks so much for your post! ~Robin

You are very helpful, and those are ideas I will definitely check out! ~Robin

Hi, The Stobaughs are giving a workshop in our area this weekend. Wondering if anyone has been to one of theirs and if it was beneficial. TIA, ~Robin

Jann, you have blessed me with your post! I may just have to email you privately especially when I get discouraged! And thanks to all the others, too. I'm SO glad that the classical education isn't the only thing discussed on this board. Thanks and love and appreciation from me! ~Robin

Thanks to all for your advice. Yes, we do have a CC near us and dual enrollment may be something to consider...........although......I think she may have the gaps in her education that her ACT scores would not be high enough (for admission) if she takes it now. We have some time to work on that, though. Now to define gaps is complicated, but I'll try to keep it short. Ever know of a student that has the more common sense type education, but doesn't do academics well? She is a more than functionally literate and could keep a checkbook. So that's covered! ha! It's just that my concern is not testing well, and she doesn't have a great retention. She is only on Algebra 1/2 in 10th grade. And I'm using lower grades in Grammar. Want to cover World Geography, World History and at least Biology before she graduates. Haven't done much writing of essays but she has 1.5 years so far of Public Speaking. So the gaps are in writing and math. Really a lot of math is behind, don't you think? Thanks again!

Hi, First let me say are not really doing "strictly" classical education anymore, but I like these boards, and I'm assuming there are others in my situation here and it's ok to post some of my questions? I feel like we may have to take an additional year to complete what my dd is behind on for graduation. Has anyone else had to do that? She would be 19 when she graduates, but it's either that or have her graduate with gaps. I would feel much better for her with having a complete high school time and covering a lot more than we would if we rush to get her finished in 2.5 years. I don't know whether she will attend a four year college, but since we are behind on most of the subjects I do feel like I want to sort of "re-group" and try my best to get her what she needs for graduation. Any advice is so appreciated. TIA, ~Robin

I'm looking at these and especially like the CLE format of small books. It reminds me of Keys curriculum. Now I've had some advice from an English professor homeschool mom who says at this point I really shouldn't be looking for a grammar curriculum and just immerse her in writing. Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree with thinking I HAVE to have a specific grammar program at this point? This is the last child I am homeschooling and I want to get it right. She is not at her grade level on grammar and math. I think I keep spinning my wheels trying to find the "right" curriculum that will fix it. I could use ANY inspiration......... TIA to all! ~Robin

Hi, I'm looking for recommendations on English Grammar that has a repetitive style like Saxon Math. This is for a high school student who is deficient in this subject, so it can be on the middle school or higher level. I'm not interested in Shurley because we used that on and off and at this point it is late to try and start it back again. I currently use ABeka, but it is somewhat confusing on some things and doesn't have enough practice on concepts. It doesn't have to be a classical approach, either. Just one that would help a student with some learning retention issues! Thanks in advance for any recommendations! ~Robin

I may start with the Shurley and if it gets to be too much in detail of planning switch over. ~Robin in Alabama

Hi, I could use some quick advice. My dd is a ninth grader and we haven't done a thorough grammar course. I did some Shurley last year, but she needs to review and continue with this to finish. When I was looking at making some lesson plans it seemed so complicated to me and I thought I would research something simpler with less teacher prep. Is Analytical Grammar better than Shurley in terms of simplicity? I've also seen Warriner's Grammar recommended. How much teacher prep is there with this? Is it only available used? TIA for considering my questions! ~Robin in Alabama

That is absolutely true, also. My original post wasn't intended to say that the buyers should offer insulting offers to the sellers. I was mainly wondering why someone would think you use a book for a year or more and only take a 10-15% amount off to resell. We are consuming them in some way if we use it. In the case you are referring to, just looking through it and not using it, it's a bit different, of course. ~Robin in Alabama

[quote If a used library book is out of print and is in high demand, the seller can charge whatever the market will bear. It really doesn't have anything to do with whether or not it is a used book or library discard or whatever. The issue is supply and demand. I found a first edition of Anne of Green Gables being kicked around on the floor at a library book sale. I bought it for $1 and sold it to a rare book dealer for $1000. I actually didn't realize it was worth that when I bought it - I just liked the cover:). Oh rare or out of print books are a different matter, and I don't have a problem with prices on these. It's the curriculum that is available still new that I'm referring to. ~Robin in Alabama

I am wondering if there are any others out there that are bugged by this. I have been selling (and buying) but mostly selling my used curriculum for many years. I only have two children, so my curriculum is usually in very good condition. I have been searching for a few used books since I only have one left homeschooling. I notice that there are a lot of people that advertise their curriculum at prices that aren't discounted very much from the original! Am I the only one that is bugged by this? It just seems to me that as a community of homeschoolers that we should do a little better for each other. It is really not much benefit if someone is selling a $100 retail price curriculum for $85. We take a chance with the mail, etc., too. I always tried to discount my books as close to 50% or more. Some of my curriculum was over $400 new and I was just wanting to get at least 50% out of it to spend on the next year's books. I'm not targeting the WTM boards because I use others, also. But to try and use a $100 curriculum and only net pay $15 seems wrong to me. We all want to save money, but I'd like to see it benefit homeschool families on both the buying and selling end fairly. Not passing judgement, just trying to make a constructive suggestion. ~Robin in Alabama

thanks, ladies. ~Robin

for the suggestions! ~Robin

Hi, I love the WTM Boards, but since I'm not classically education my rising 9th grade daughter, I would be interested to discussing other methods like Charlotte Mason for high school. Could anyone recommend other boards? TIA, ~Robin in Alabama

Hi, I really like the boards on the WTM because they are very popular and well read. I only have one student homeschooling now, my son has graduated, and I can't really say that we are doing classical education. She is a rising freshman, but we are behind in math and language arts, so much of what is discussed for curriculum here is just too advanced for where we are right now. She may catch up by her sophomore year. We have been more Charlotte Mason with her, and I don't know if people do Charlotte Mason for high school much. Anyway, are there other boards that are as active as the WTM boards for people that are not particularly classical educators? TIA for any suggestions. I'm going to cross post this in the high school area, too. ~Robin in Alabama

There are scholarships out there from local and state-based companies that I would recommend you look in to. I went to the local high school guidance counselor and got info there. Also google some local companies and check. Some churches have memorial scholarships, so you could check with your church or denomination. Of course, check with the college where he plans to attend. If it were not for the scholarships, my son wouldn't be planning on attending a private Christian college this fall. God is good! ~Robin in Alabama

Danielle, Thank you again for going into more detail. I will indeed print some of the information out from the samples and go from there. I actually looked into some Charlotte Mason nature things yesterday and found some books written by Clare Walker Leslie which looked nice, too. I don't suppose you ever see the Kamana stuff on the used book sites, do you????;) ~Robin

Danielle, I did notice the pagan worship references: Is it throughout the course, or just in a few places? I'm a conservative Christian, however, I don't always believe in throwing the baby out with the bathwater, so it would depend on how much this factors in to the other discussions, i.e. identifying, etc. Most anything that includes the native American culture refers to their beliefs...........even Little House on the Prairie! We live on the coast, have an estaurarium within 15 miles of us, gulf beaches and bays and rivers. Again, Danielle, thanks for taking all the time to tell me about this! ~Robin

I'm going to print some of this out. Do you do this with your family? I'd love to hear move. This is the first I've seen this program. ~Robin

Could you tell me what differences there are in these? Thanks for both replies, ladies! ~Robin in Alabama

To use TOG for one student? Does it have to be strictly followed (which I'm not opposed to and probably NEED!) on a day to day basis, and can I use different levels (say one grade lower if the student isn't strong in a subject) but on her grade level with other subjects? Thanks in advance. I'd like to hear from people that use this and what you like or dislike about it. ~Robin in Alabama