Roxy Roller
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My oldest is in 8th, so take this with a grain of salt.
We have been much the same as you have in regards to science - my kids do interest-led science in early elementary. My DD13 tried Apologia General Science last year, with the CD and Audio formats, but things didn't seem to click. Before this school year started she said that she hated science. Our problem is that she wants to possibly be a Registered Nurse.
This year she would have been into Apologia's Physical Science. I decided to do AIG's God's Design for the Physical World books with my 4 oldest children, together. I have purchased all three Building Foundations of Scientific Understanding books and I have gone through them to match up the BFSU lessons to the God's Design books and they have added immeasurable amounts of information and clarity to the God's Design books. (I just highlight what I want to discuss/demonstrate from the BFSU books - we don't do the BFSU lessons.) I have also searched the internet for corresponding video clips to go with each lesson. Science is now one of my DD's(and sons) favorite subjects, go figure. I have gone through and typed up the vocab and lesson questions so that my children just have to fill in answers, which makes our lesson move along faster. I put the vocab definitions on the whiteboard and require that they have copied them down before our 'class'. The God's Design books have pretty simple experiments in them, and I am sure that you could look for video clips that would demonstrate the concepts if you didn't want to do them.
I think you could probably do the same thing with the Apologia General Book, and I am considering doing Apologia Biology with my 4 oldest next year in this same way.
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You could also consider using BFSU as a reference for YOU, so that you simply remember to bring up certain concepts in conversation.
:iagree:We are young earth creationists, and we are using AIG's Physical Science books this year, but I have purchased all 3 of the BFSU books as a reference for me. I have marked the corresponding sections in BFSU, so that I will read ahead and make sure that I am covering all that needs to be covered(I feel that AIG is a little light). I love that Dr. Nebel really explains the concepts that need to be covered which I might forget or assume my kids 'get'. I will add in ideas from BFSU as needed as well.
I do not have your science background, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
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My edition was printed in 1995, so keep that in mind...
I have not looked at the book recently, but when I read through it a few years ago, it really felt like a 'public school' writing program. At that time I was mainly doing copywork and narrations(WWE), so moving kids through to essays by 4th Grade was not my goal. I think it is well organized, and if you want to stay on par with writing in the 'schools', it is probably an option(it covers everything from poetry to figures of speech to punctuation, grammar and capitalization, to letter writing, book reports, factual reports, story writing and essays). We have since moved on to IEW, as our current writing curriculum.
Roxanne
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I have an older version of it sitting here, but I have not used it. Do you have any questions in particular?
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You can see the material by clicking on the character traits on the left side of the page. The materials looked like they followed CF. They just add some Bible verses to it. I seem to recall there being a couple verses being applied that I didn't think were correct, or maybe conclusions drawn that I wasn't getting from those verses, so I would certainly read through them yourself before teaching.
CF itself looks great. I had thought about using it, but then found that Sonlight P4/5 had character traits built in, so I just used that (since we were using it anyway). Of course, the SL character traits aren't fleshed out like CF would be!
I did look at the newsletter more thoroughly, and it definitely has more than just the Bible story list that I received.
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Shipping is $15.00 :sad:
PM'd you, Hunter.
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I really like that this is a secular curriculum with Christian add ons. Is the Bible supplement different than the one Boscopup linked to?
I'm finding some of the adult resources a bit amusing, when I imagine them being used in certain scenarios. :lol:
The Elementary lessons look sweet.
I am not sure if it is the same thing. I did not know that Home Life Ministries had a newsletter using the Character First curriculum. I have subscribed and I will let you know if it is similar. All I received from Robert was a list of Bible stores for each trait.
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I have the first set of teacher guides for the elementary grades in my hands, as well as the other three on order. I also have the junior high and high school material as well as the elementary posters and cards. If you have any questions in particular, please pm me or post them here.
Robert Greenlaw at Character First is awesome to talk to and he will email you a list of Bible stories to go with each of the character traits if you talk to him, as Character First is a secular curriculum.
We are planning on using Character First in our family devotional time, mainly because I want our whole family to be on the same page as far as what is expected around here. We will add the Bible stories in to back up the traits, and I plan on having the kids each do a notebook in which we will make notes on people we come across in our literature, history etc, who display(or do not display) the character traits we have covered.
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I think we will be using the guide from Center for Lit - http://www.centerforlit.com/Materials/TG7.aspx
I think it may be the same one that a pp linked. It is by Teaching the Classics.
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I am looking for input from those of you that have used MM 6A&B. If you have completed these books, which curriculum have you gone on to? Pre-Algebra or directly to Algebra 1? If you moved directly to Algebra 1, were you successful?
Thanks in advance,
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I tried SWI-A by itself, with my oldest, a few years ago, and it bombed here.
This year, I realized that I needed to try again, because consistent writing was not happening here. I purchased the TWSS and actually took the time to watch ALL OF IT, and take notes. It was the best thing I could have done. I finally get it, and understand how the sequence works. I would totally recommend watching all of TWSS before attempting to teach it. We are now working through SWI-A. We are watching a section with Mr. Pudewa and doing the assignment, then I teach the next couple of assignments(as found in the downloadable book on the IEW website that goes with SWI-A), and we move on to the next section in the SWI-A. I plan on using SICC-A next year and adapting the assignments I teach to include information from our content subjects.
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My DD12 is in 7th Grade. We had been using MUS up until this year(finished Zeta in 6th). We started out the year trying Chalkdust BCM. She couldn't handle the text. It was too dense(especially after MUS). So I ordered MUS Pre-Algebra and she couldn't handle the new concepts that were thrown at her - it is basically a catch-all text for the things that weren't covered in the lower grades. I found Saxon 7/6 used, so we started that after Christmas. We got up to about lesson 25 and floundered. I had a discussion with her about putting more effort in to her math and she started 7/6 over again. We are now up to about lesson 25 again and she is getting 15 questions wrong in each lesson(we do all the questions). I am at a loss as to what to do. I know some of it is adolescence. I switched one of her younger brothers to Saxon and he is in 6/5(in 5th Grade). She refuses to do the same text he is doing, and already says she is 'dumb'. I am tired of fighting with her about math.
She wants to be a Vet Tech, so she needs to be able to get into college. I need recommendations of a curriculum and path that will get there without us killing each other. At this point I am willing to try anything.
Thanks in advance,
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My oldest loved The Whipping Boy by Sid Fleischman.
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Thank you all for you input!
Eleanor, thank you for your thoughts. I have to remember that I can't do it all.
We do use quite a few audio books, and I think I will have to add more to our Ipod. I did use the AO list a few years ago, and we worked our way through Year 1. I ended up burning out, because I was reading aloud for hours everyday. I will have to revisit the list and pick and choose. I like the idea of looking at the Pre-7 year to find the 'must reads'.
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I have printed off the Good Book List from Great Books Academy, but I have to be honest, we have only read a few of the books on that list and I am feeling defeated already.
Are there any smaller lists out there for someone who is coming into classical education late?
Thank you,
Roxanne
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I have joined the group as well. I am enjoying the discussions that have formed on this group, and even though I haven't had much to add, I have gleaned many nuggets of wisdom from all of you ladies.
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I am right there with you, Jennifer. I think we all have to figure out how to implement the glimpses of greatness the thread, the lectures, the books, and this group have shown us. None of us will do it in the same way, or to the same degree.
For me, the one statement that has run through my mind over and over in the past few days is from Andrew Kern. In a couple of his lectures, he reminded us that at the end of the day, what we want most for our children is that when they stand before their Maker, He will be able to say to them, "Well done, good and faithful servant!" Both times I heard Andrew say that I had tears in my eyes. I have decided that every decision we make in our homeschool and in our home, needs to have that very goal in mind. It has given me clarity and focus.
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Thank you, justamouse. I have not read the books. I was just throwing out titles for those that are thinking of a Grimm study.
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Sorry this is a day late, but yes, HE IS RISEN INDEED!
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I am reading an annotated fairy tale book from the library and it lists some additional books for use with the Grimm brothers -
Grimms' Bad Girls and Bold Boys: The Moral and Social Vision of the Tales by Ruth Bottigheimer
The Hard Facts of the Grimms' Fairy Tales by Maria Tatar
The Brothers Grimm: From Enchanted Forests to the Modern World by Jack Zipes
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Hmmm...so much to ponder.
I pulled out my first edition of TWTM, to see what SWB had suggested for Early Modern times in the logic stage. The list seems huge. I can not see getting through all of the literature that she has listed while allowing time to actually think about what we have read in a contemplative way. I do not want to rush through.
8, I guess I need to go back to put together a list of great literature that my DC may have missed in the early years and maybe I will spend this next year working through it instead of trying to tie literature into history(which is what I am drawn to). I did get a annotated fairy tale book from the library, which has a great list of must read fairy tales, but honestly, after reading through them myself, I was left feeling :confused:, most have wicked step-mothers and absent fathers. I am not sure how I could get across the ultimate goal of virtue to my children with those stories.
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Thank you for your responses. I have printed off the samples and I will have to do some careful reading before I make a decision.
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Thank you for the heads up, 8! I am willing to expose my DC to things, but it sounds like TOTC would be too much. Do you have an alternate suggestion?
We did study the Canterbury Tales with the Medieval times this year, so I don't think that I want to revisit it.
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Ohh, I like the thought of carrying the idea of revolution through time. I don't think I have read A Tale of Two Cities, so I will request it from the library to see if it might work.
I am looking at Early Modern for next year and then Modern for the year after. I 'think' I am looking for literature written in the the time period. I had thought about using Little Women, Little Men and Jo's Boys to build around, but they would come a little later. I like Dickens for the Victorian time period as well. My DC have all listened to the audiobooks of The Secret Garden and The Little Princess, over and over, so I don't think that I can revisit them.
Science questions...Apologia, God's Design, or other?
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I am glad that you have settled on something that will work for both of you.
I like the Apologia books, and we will be going back to them, we are just taking a break and doing AIG this year.