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47 minutes ago, Lori D. said:
Gotcha.Definitely check out the Guest Hollow History Bookshelf link -- lots of biographies and nonfiction titles at a grade. 5-8 level that could be added into your voracious reader's list. 🙂
Alas, can't help with the Canadian history / Canadian historical fiction -- I haven't seen any lists for that specifically.
ETA -- Annnnddd... I just found a list, LOL:
Canadian History books:
- I Am Canada series -- various books
- Dear Canada series -- fictional diaries from various time periods
- On a Canadian Day -- 9 stories at different time periods
1795 = Willa's New World (Demers)
1812 = The Schooner's Revenge (Sutherland)
1812 = Jeremy's War 1812 (Ibbotson)
1825 = There Million Acres of Flame (Sherrard)
1838 = Sophie's Treason (Boissery)
1850s = Underground to Canada (Smucker)
1863 = Grease Town (Towell)
1882 = Big Water (Curtis)
1885 = Belle of Batoche (Guest)
late 1800s = Red Wolf (Dance)
early 1900s = Mable Reily (Jocelyn)
1903 = Boxcar Kid (Charles)
1903 = Journey of the Shadow Bairns (Anderson)
1913 = The Lamp, The Ice, and the Boat Called Fish (Martin)
1914 = The Button Necklace (Harrison)
1940s = The Cook Camp (Paulsen)
1965 = Secret of the Night Ponies (Hiatt)"classics"
- Anne of Green Gables series (Montgomery)Thanks, Lori! He has read a few of the books on the Canadian list you posted, but most of them I haven't heard of. I will check them out.
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58 minutes ago, Lori D. said:
Another thought is that if DS is burning through 3-4 historical fiction books a week, perhaps DS needs books that are at a higher reading level books than logic stage, and that are longer and more complex, so that the books take more time for reading, thinking, absorbing.
Thanks for your response, Lori! I am wondering if what you mentioned here, is what is an issue. The only problem is that DS is an immature 14 YO, so most longer, more complex works might be at his reading level, but emotionally, I am not sure he could handle them. Does that make sense. I do want to push him so that by next year he will hopefully be ready for higher level reading. He has already read quite a few of the books that you have listed that might go with SOTW 3, but not all, so I will look at them. We are Canadian, so I am trying to add in Canadian historical fiction as well as some US historical fiction.
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1 hour ago, stlily said:
I don't have a list but I have a few suggestions of where/how you can get some book ideas. If you own the SOTW Activities book, you'll see that for every chapter there is a list of recommended Additional History Reading & Corresponding Literature Suggestions. Most of these books are for elementary level students but sometimes there will be some that are IR 3-5 or IR 6-8, IR meaning Independent Reading. Another thing I've done in the past is search the topics being covered in a particular chapter, in my libraries catalog. Then I sort by by reading level. I also use the reading list provided in TWTM. There is enough there for an entire school year (for most kids:). Finally, there are a few lists already made that I have found on Pinterest. Here's an example: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/139400550952942941/ Hope this helps.
Yes, I have the activity book, but most of the books are below his reading level. I will look at the lists you mentioned. Thank you!
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I am having my Logic Stage child go through SOTW 3 & 4 this year. He is a voracious reader, and is asking for 3-4 history related literature books to read EVERY week. Does someone have a list of Logic level books that corresponds with the chapters in SOTW 3 & 4. I have seen different curriculums with lists, but most of them list 1 book every week or so. I need to put together a pretty extensive list to keep up with this boy.
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It has been ages since I have been in this community.
I have been homeschooling all of my children, and now I am on my last child who is a voracious reader and likes to work independently. He is going into ninth grade, and we are at Early Modern Times in our history rotation. I would really like to cover all the way through to current times this year. Any recommendations?
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Fahrenheit 451 is one of those books that middle schoolers often love, especially boys. If you had great discussions with Animal Farm and The Giver, I would add it in.
I did Fahrenheit 451 in high school and I didn't love it, but my boys might.
Johnny Tremain
Treasure Island
Not sure if these have been mentioned yet... They are must-reads for my boys! :)
We have not done Johnny Tremain or Treasure Island. I think I may consider them.
I like The Bronze Bow for ancients, too. :)
We have listened to The Bronze Bow as a family on audiobook, my kids loved it.
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Ancients:
Epic of Gilgamesh
Black Ships Before Troy
The Wanderings of Odysseus
Middle Ages:
King Arthur and Knights of The Round Table
Robin Hood
D'Aulaires Norse Mythology
Early Modern:
Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin
Tom Sawyer
The Raven (I'd say Pride and Prejudice here, but I absolutely hated that book, so I substituted something of Poe's)
Modern:
Animal Farm
To Kill A Mockingbird
The Grapes of Wrath
Thanks for a great, precise list!
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I'd add Swiss Family Robinson and Pilgrim's Progress and maybe Grapes of Wrath for 8th grade.
We have just finished SFR as a family audiobook, so I won't cover that again, but I do think I need to add in Pilgrim's Progress.
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Here is Mr. Travers' European History book list for his Literature class below. Check out this link to his open hours where he covers the American History books he will use next year. My 5th and 7th grade kids love studying Literature, Art, and Poetry with this guy. He really bring the Literature and the Art to life.
Junior High Literature, Book List
European-History Related
- King Arthur and His Knights of the Round Table, by Roger Lancelyn Green
- Beowulf: A New Telling, by Robert Nye
- Anna of Byzantium, by Tracy Barrett
- The Hunchback of Notre Dame, by Victor Hugo
- Cyrano de Bergerac, by Edmond Rostand
- The Cid, by Pierre Corneille
- A Doll’s House, by Henrik Ibsen
- The Scarlet Pimpernel, by Baroness Orczy
- Ninety-Three, by Victor Hugo
- Othello, by William Shakespeare
- Romeo and Juliet, by William Shakespeare
- Les Misérables, by Victor Hugo
Examples of Poetry
- “The Lady of Shalottâ€, by Alfred Tennyson
- “The Highwaymanâ€, by Alfred Noyes
- “To Lucastaâ€, by Richard Lovelace
- “Sonnet 116â€, by William Shakespeare
Great list! Thank you!
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We've had a really good year of read-alouds this year for year 4, Modern History. I've got the challenge now of choosing read-alouds for studying Ancients with youngest only next year, so I'll keep following this thread. This is way more than 3, but it has been a great list. All were read-alouds so we could discuss as we went along, and they were done with girls instead of boys ages 13 and 10/11, 8th and 5th grader.
Red Badge of Courage
My Antonia
Huckleberry Finn
All Quiet on the Western Front
The Hound of the Baskervilles
Murder on the Orient Express
The Hiding Place
Animal Farm
To Kill a Mockingbird
If we could have only done 3 of those, I would choose Huck Finn, Animal Farm, and To Kill a Mockingbird. But I wouldn't assign any of those particular 3 for middle schoolers to read on their own. Too much to explain (like dialects), too many important ideas to just hope they notice. Boys might have more interest in the war themes (I can tell you girls tire of them!); All Quiet on the Western Front was our favorite of those.
I had thought about Red Badge of Courage and Huck Finn. I will add the others to my lists to consider.
I am planning on doing all of these as read-alouds so that we can discuss them.
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My dd and I did Animal Farm this year in 6th grade. It was definitely accessible, it's not a hard read, and as an allegory it is much more appropriate for middle schoolers than, say 1984. But I would say that it's important to have the historical context - definitely discuss the Russian Revolution and Stalin before you read the book.
The discussions we had of Animal Farm and The Giver this year absolutely blew me away. That's why I include The Giver - not that it's classic literature or anything, but the quality of the discussion we had about that book was phenomenal. We read (together) the short stories The Lottery and The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas at the same time, and it was incredibly thought-provoking.
Thank you for your explanations. I will have to put these on my own reading list to peruse.
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Keep the ideas coming, ladies! This is helping to solidify some of my ideas.
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What have you looked at? BF? MFW? Veritas Press?
I have looked at Sonlight, BF, MFW, VP, TQ and BP.
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Ancients:
a retelling of Gilgamesh
Black Ships Before Troy - on my short list already
Julius Caesar
Medieval:
D'Aulaire's book of Norse Myths
King Arthur - maybe Green's version? - on my short list already
Robin Hood - Green - on my short list already
Early Modern:
Treasure Island - already on my short list
Around the World in 80 Days - I think we are doing this as a family audiobook this summer, because we just finished a few months of intense geography.
Tom Sawyer - already on my short list
Modern:
The Adventures of Sherlock Homes or Hound of the Baskervilles - I like the idea of Sherlock Holmes.
Animal Farm - This is usually on high school lists, is it accessible to middle schoolers?
The Giver
ETA: I just realized I divided my time periods differently than the OP requested, but I'll leave it, b/c I like Kfamily's version for the other division of historical periods.
Thanks for your ideas. I have made my notes.
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I'll give it a try..
Ancients
Black Ships Before Troy by Rosemary Sutcliff - this was on my short list
The Trojan War by Olivia Coolidge
The Wanderings of Odysseus by Rosemary Sutcliff
In Search of a Homeland by Penelope Lively
Medieval
King Arthur and His Knights of the Round Table by Roger Lancelyn Green - this was on my short list
Canterbury Tales Retold by Geraldine McCaughrean
Beowulf by Burton Raffel
Robin Hood by Roger L. Green - this was on my short list
Nordic Gods and Heroes by Padraic Colum
Renaissance and Reformation
Tales From Shakespeare by Charles and Mary Lamb or a complete play by Shakespeare
Poetry for Young People: Shakespeare edited by Kasten
Early Modern
Robinson Crusoe by Daniel Defoe - we did this as a family audiobook on our last big trip - everyone loved it, but I wouldn't do it again
Modern
Treasure Island by Robert L. Stevenson - this is on my short list
Captains Courageous by Rudyard Kipling
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain - this is on my short list
A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens
I have made notes in the quote, as to which books I already have on my short list. Thank you for some more ideas to consider.
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I have looked at book lists until I am going cross-eyed. Please tell me what your three top picks would be for each time period - Ancient, Medieval, Renaissance/Reformation, Early Modern and Modern Times, in the order of importance, and/or interest for middle school boys, from first to last.
Or if you know of a prior thread that would tell me this, please link it. In the back of my head I think Hunter or someone else asked a question like this some years ago.
Thank you
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Will someone please compare these two texts for me? I do not have either one of them on hand.
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I am looking for a world history overview for my DD14. She will be in 10th grade in the fall, but really is not at a 10th grade level. She is still quite immature. My tenative plan for 11th is Sonlight's Core 200 Church History, followed by Sonlight's Core 300 20th Century.
I need something for history/literature that she can do fairly independently, or at least gradually learn to, throughout this year. I would like something that has a biblical worldview, and something that will build her reading stamina(as of right now, there is no way she could get through all of the books in Cores 200 and 300). I want something that will provide essay ideas that we can work on so that she will be up to speed by 11th grade.
We have just finished a 4 year rotation of world/history with some Canadian history where appropriate. We are doing concentrated geography until the end of this current year.
Here are some of my contenders:
Notgrass World History/Literature - One problem is that 5 of the 13 books used for their literature program will be covered in Cores 200 and 300. This also may be a little dry for this girl who loves adventure.
Sonlight Core W - We have already read many of the books in this core, so I would be switching things out constantly, which will not help with my goal of pushing her towards independence, because I will have to be more involved.
Veritas Press - Transition Year - We haven't used anything from VP, so I am a little intrigued with this, but I am wondering if it is advanced enough. They do say it is used to get ready for Omnibus. I think the only book that would be used in Cores 200 and 300 would be The Hiding Place.
Are there some other ideas out there that I haven't though of? Any and all input would be greatly appreciate!
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I am wondering if anyone has used these books and if so, what are your thoughts?
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Now that I think of it, another option might be K12's Literary Analysis and Composition. It's considered an 8th/9th grade course, and it has everything--grammar, writing, vocabulary, and literature.
I also think that Nscribe's idea of combining Hake Grammar and Lightning Lit is a good one.
Thank you, Kai. I will look at K12 as well.
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Possibly Oak Meadow?
I will look into Oak Meadow.
Hake Grammar 8 would give the grammar and writing parts and then Lightening Literature or Literary Lessons Lord of the Rings could make up the Literature part. (If you are looking for self teaching, clear, straight-forward and not terribly difficult for a 14 year old).
I am looking for self-teaching, clear, straight-forward and not terribly difficult for a 14 year old! Do you know if Hake Grammar and Writing includes essays? I have looked at Lightening Lit, but I will look again. I do not think LLLotR will work as this girl is not interested in any kind of fantasy writing.
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I am wondering if there is an English curriculum that is pretty self-explanatory and encompasses grammar, writing and literature for high school which uses whole books as well as short stories and poetry. I am not looking for something super rigorous, as my DD14 is not a strong reader, but I do not seem to have enough hours in a day to spend a lot of time with her.
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Under no circumstances would I allow children to work for 3-4 hours on math. I'm sure that's terribly frustrating for everyone, and it doesn't solve anything (you should forgive the pun, lol).
I totally agree!
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We are using a book called, "Preparing Your Daughter for Every Woman's Battle: Creative Conversations About Sexual and Emotional Integrity". It has been very helpful. We also use a journal to talk back and forth. My dd has been far more willing to ask questions using a journal rather than face to face. I also use car time for extra discussion.
Edited to add - this book talks about a lot of uncomfortable topics and I have paraphrased some chapters.
Thank you, Dawn. I will look into that book. I will think about using a journal, but my daughter is very auditory, so I am not sure writing things down would work for her.
Thank you for the heads up about the uncomfortable topics. It sounds like just what I need to help me discuss these topics with her. I would probably have to paraphrase the chapters with her as well.
History Odyssey with Alternate Text?
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I really like the way History Odyssey is set up, but I do not want to use TSOM. We are not secular, and I would prefer a text that isn't secular. Has anyone used HO with something else? If so, how did it line up?