I really like the way History Odyssey is set up, but I do not want to use TSOM. We are not secular, and I would prefer a text that isn't secular. Has anyone used HO with something else? If so, how did it line up?

Thanks, Lori! He has read a few of the books on the Canadian list you posted, but most of them I haven't heard of. I will check them out.

Thanks for your response, Lori! I am wondering if what you mentioned here, is what is an issue. The only problem is that DS is an immature 14 YO, so most longer, more complex works might be at his reading level, but emotionally, I am not sure he could handle them. Does that make sense. I do want to push him so that by next year he will hopefully be ready for higher level reading. He has already read quite a few of the books that you have listed that might go with SOTW 3, but not all, so I will look at them. We are Canadian, so I am trying to add in Canadian historical fiction as well as some US historical fiction.

Yes, I have the activity book, but most of the books are below his reading level. I will look at the lists you mentioned. Thank you!

I am having my Logic Stage child go through SOTW 3 & 4 this year. He is a voracious reader, and is asking for 3-4 history related literature books to read EVERY week. Does someone have a list of Logic level books that corresponds with the chapters in SOTW 3 & 4. I have seen different curriculums with lists, but most of them list 1 book every week or so. I need to put together a pretty extensive list to keep up with this boy.

It has been ages since I have been in this community. I have been homeschooling all of my children, and now I am on my last child who is a voracious reader and likes to work independently. He is going into ninth grade, and we are at Early Modern Times in our history rotation. I would really like to cover all the way through to current times this year. Any recommendations?

I did Fahrenheit 451 in high school and I didn't love it, but my boys might. We have not done Johnny Tremain or Treasure Island. I think I may consider them. We have listened to The Bronze Bow as a family on audiobook, my kids loved it.

Thanks for a great, precise list!

We have just finished SFR as a family audiobook, so I won't cover that again, but I do think I need to add in Pilgrim's Progress.

Great list! Thank you!

I had thought about Red Badge of Courage and Huck Finn. I will add the others to my lists to consider. I am planning on doing all of these as read-alouds so that we can discuss them.

Thank you for your explanations. I will have to put these on my own reading list to peruse.

Keep the ideas coming, ladies! This is helping to solidify some of my ideas.

I have looked at Sonlight, BF, MFW, VP, TQ and BP.

Thanks for your ideas. I have made my notes.

I have made notes in the quote, as to which books I already have on my short list. Thank you for some more ideas to consider.

I have looked at book lists until I am going cross-eyed. Please tell me what your three top picks would be for each time period - Ancient, Medieval, Renaissance/Reformation, Early Modern and Modern Times, in the order of importance, and/or interest for middle school boys, from first to last. Or if you know of a prior thread that would tell me this, please link it. In the back of my head I think Hunter or someone else asked a question like this some years ago. Thank you

Will someone please compare these two texts for me? I do not have either one of them on hand.

I am looking for a world history overview for my DD14. She will be in 10th grade in the fall, but really is not at a 10th grade level. She is still quite immature. My tenative plan for 11th is Sonlight's Core 200 Church History, followed by Sonlight's Core 300 20th Century. I need something for history/literature that she can do fairly independently, or at least gradually learn to, throughout this year. I would like something that has a biblical worldview, and something that will build her reading stamina(as of right now, there is no way she could get through all of the books in Cores 200 and 300). I want something that will provide essay ideas that we can work on so that she will be up to speed by 11th grade. We have just finished a 4 year rotation of world/history with some Canadian history where appropriate. We are doing concentrated geography until the end of this current year. Here are some of my contenders: Notgrass World History/Literature - One problem is that 5 of the 13 books used for their literature program will be covered in Cores 200 and 300. This also may be a little dry for this girl who loves adventure. Sonlight Core W - We have already read many of the books in this core, so I would be switching things out constantly, which will not help with my goal of pushing her towards independence, because I will have to be more involved. Veritas Press - Transition Year - We haven't used anything from VP, so I am a little intrigued with this, but I am wondering if it is advanced enough. They do say it is used to get ready for Omnibus. I think the only book that would be used in Cores 200 and 300 would be The Hiding Place. Are there some other ideas out there that I haven't though of? Any and all input would be greatly appreciate!

I am wondering if anyone has used these books and if so, what are your thoughts?

Thank you, Kai. I will look at K12 as well.

I will look into Oak Meadow. I am looking for self-teaching, clear, straight-forward and not terribly difficult for a 14 year old! Do you know if Hake Grammar and Writing includes essays? I have looked at Lightening Lit, but I will look again. I do not think LLLotR will work as this girl is not interested in any kind of fantasy writing.

I am wondering if there is an English curriculum that is pretty self-explanatory and encompasses grammar, writing and literature for high school which uses whole books as well as short stories and poetry. I am not looking for something super rigorous, as my DD14 is not a strong reader, but I do not seem to have enough hours in a day to spend a lot of time with her.

I totally agree!

Thank you, Dawn. I will look into that book. I will think about using a journal, but my daughter is very auditory, so I am not sure writing things down would work for her. Thank you for the heads up about the uncomfortable topics. It sounds like just what I need to help me discuss these topics with her. I would probably have to paraphrase the chapters with her as well.