FWIW, I think Y3 was updated 3 years ago (when I first began with TOG), so future updates shouldn't be too significant. Most updates are related to books going out of print. Significant changes were made to Frameworks and Poetics with Year 1 being completed this year. You can check on Tapestry's website to see what was updated thus far. Recently, I purchased a used copy of Y3. After checking the updates, there wasn't much that had changed. Personally, I prefer print because I like to have all the pages in front of me. I can highlight (with the page in a protector, of course =) and have the discussion guide in front of me so we don't have to sit in the office to have our weekly discussion. I don't enjoy printing mountains of pages only to recycle or trash them. I like to flip through the unit and be able to feel the weight of what we've completed. Weird, maybe. One more thought.....with DE + print, the print version is not resell-able; print only is. I would suggest purchasing the already printed SAP's unless you have a super economical printer. And you think there won't be a fog...... :lol: There's my 2 cents =) Smiles, Teresa

With my mathematically gifted son (now 23) we used Saxon, mainly b/c it was all I knew to do at the time with 2 toddlers and a newborn =/ Anyhow, ds went on to compete in a local math competition. Category? Geometry. With no formal geometry course, he placed 1st in the state! Now how much of that is Saxon and how much was his own personal studying (he loved reading encyclopedias and old text books), I can't say. With my other not so math-loving kids, we've used Teaching Textbooks, Life of Fred, and MathUSee. We're back in Saxon. MHO? Let him work through the older Saxon editions (2e or 3e) which spread geometry over three books: Alg 1, II, and Advanced Math. Smiles, Teresa

I've graduated three from home without outsourcing other than a lab class for Apologia Biology. Currently, I am homeschooling the last two, 10th and 8th grades. Our finances won't allow the outrageous fees for local homeschool classes and dual enrollment is out for a lot of reasons. In addition, I had to take on a part time job. So like another poster, we use dvd's for math (Mr. Reed), writing (IEW & Lost Tools), Netflix, and online resources such as Khan Academy, YouTube (great history documentaries and Shakespeare performances), and Codeacademy. Recently found this: http://allinonehomeschool.wordpress.com/ Looks very promising for filling in some of the gaps =) Thanks so much to the author!! In addition, we are blessed my sil is Latino and converses in Spanish with us whenever she is around =) In His grip, Teresa

Bumping up.... Is a Teacher's Edition needed for answers to problems? Are there any problems? I've seen problem solving exercises book, student book, teacher book, a lab manual, whew! It's a bit overwhelming =/ Thanks in advance, Teresa

Praying \O/ May His Great Name be blessed and you encouraged! Teresa

We turned our FROG (finished room over garage) into a gym. There's an elliptical, treadmill, tv, lots of dvd's, weights, and other equipment. Otherwise, they can bike, walk, run, mow, etc. Hubby and I exercise daily. So far, the oldest boy who has an IT desk job isn't the least bit interested in being fit =/ The next kid is too busy with college and work =/ So, the last two are required to get 45 minutes of exercise every day. It's part of the school day. Alas, you can lead a horse to water..... Smiles, Teresa

I'm not sure what I need to order. Which edition? Practice book? Teacher resources? Just started a part time job and I don't have time to research. Could some of you wiser women lend a hand? Thanks, Teresa

We love garlic mashed potatoes and a healthy green salad with roasted chicken. I steam the garlic in the milk I will use to mash the potatoes. Getting hungry.... Smiles, Teresa

Love to workout though my weight has gone up in recent years. No, it's not muscle, rather hormones =/ Usually, depending on how much time I have, injuries, and time of the month, I alternate between: 30 min sprint 8 workout on elliptical 45 min fat burning on elliptical Gin Miller's Reebok Intense Moves and Original Step workouts Amy Bento Slo-Mo Strength Challenge Gilad Cuts and Curves Sahra Esmonde-White Essentrics Miranda Esmond-White Classical Stretch walking biking Smiles, Teresa

My sons enjoyed Apologia's Land Animals and Swimming Creatures at that age. Teresa

I am lactose intolerant and can't have soy either. It counteracts my thyroid meds :glare: I use half and half in my coffee and can eat cheese if it's cooked (like on pizza or queso). Have you tried the lactose free milks or almond milk (it's pretty thick). Smiles, Teresa

Canouan. Dh went here and Trinidad on a mission trip years ago. Travel agents couldn't find it =) Smiles, Teresa

We've been on a Mexican kick since my s-i-l taught me to make chimichangas. Cook chicken in pan with 1-2 garlic cloves and small amt oil to keep from sticking. shred or use food processor. Take medium size tortillas and spread with refried beans; add chicken. I like the chimichangas full. Fold two sides in on top of each other followed by top and bottom. Secure with toothpicks. Fry in oil until golden. Top with homemade guacamole: Split avacado, remove innards, salt, smash, enjoy! Replace pit into bowl of guac; it keep it from turning brown and yucky. We also make homemade pico. Finally, white american cheese queso (1 slice per person plus one extra) with milk, 1tsp butter, and a splash of milk. Add sour cream just before serving, yet long enough to heat through. Yum-o! Smiles, Teresa I second http://crockpot365.blogspot.com/ She has some great recipes!

I counted down the days until I turned 16. Was at the DMV waiting to get in at 8am! Smiles, Teresa

Not sure if it should be on your list, but yes, there is lots of time locating books, reading teacher notes, getting your bearings. TOG warns new users of "the 9 week fog." Personally, it was about 12 weeks :glare: You will need to determine the levels for your students, perhaps beginning at dialectic until you all get your head around it, then moving up to rhetoric. Unless you purchase them all new which is expensive. (Of course, I've spent lots of time this summer looking for books and we're not using TOG this year :001_smile:) I spent a few hours on the weekend preparing for the week ahead and checking up on my kids' progress. We were in a TOG co-op for the first 2 years of TOG, but not for the last one. We spent two hours or so in discussion time once a week for history and lit. JMHO, Teresa

Wow! Due to hubby's general contracting business not doing well, I've been job searching. Can't find anything besides babysitting =/ I've raised five kids; not really wanting to go that route :glare: So, I took a deep breath, and with the encouragement of my almost 18 yo daughter, I applied to community college. Dd tells me I can begin in October with the short session classes! Yikes! Now to figure out where the study guide for the placement test is.... Starting a new chapter in life, Teresa

:iagree: Yes, as I will have two in chemistry next year. Please do keep us in your loop :001_smile: Smiles, Teresa

Thanks for sharing! Smiles, Teresa

I dropped TOG after three years (Y3, Y4, and Y1). The books at the Rhetoric level in Y3 are dry as crackers. Some of them are used in the last two units of Y2. For Middle Ages this year, we are using TruthQuest, SWB's History of the Medieval World, History Odyssey Middle Ages Level 3, Take a Stand!, and various youtube and netflix videos. If this year goes well, I'll probably continue with TQ and supplement with History Odyssey. Smiles, Teresa

Would love to take her to a groomer, but we just don't have the funds. So, dd and I do it all. We bathe our Yorkie about every other week, unless she gets into something and smells horrible. FYI, the last time I bathed her, I used flea and tick shampoo. She had a bad reaction =/ Smiles, Teresa

My experience with a charter school in the NC area was not so pleasant for several reasons. Though it is 10 minutes from my house, there was lots of waiting time in the car line, mostly in the afternoons (during youngers nappy time). Charter schools usually expect you to volunteer (even with little ones) which means another trip there and back again at least once a week. As far as free, um no. Gas expense is bad enough. Then the school will nickel and dime you to death. $1 Jeans day, special lunches, we're in need of ____ every family please send one; uniforms/shoes which must be a certain color and style, the list goes on and on.... Then there are parent meetings, field trips (at which volunteers will be needed), school functions at dinner time, etc. On top of a very long school day, there were mountains of homework (mostly busy work) in 1st and 3rd grades. In addition, there were speed reading tests, speed drills for math, and constant pressure to perform. My youngest who was in the 1st grade at the time wound up suffering from extreme anxiety which required therapy and years of handholding :glare: Personally, for us, it just wasn't worth it. I know when you are in the midst of babies, toddlers, and schooling seems never ending, charter school looks like the answer to a prayer, but seriously contemplate beforehand. Grace to you, Teresa

Years ago, my sweet hubby converted our FROG (Finished Room Over Garage) into a gym for me. I use it at least 5 times a week. My kids know it makes me a better mom :001_smile: Walked dog in am. 30 minutes interval on elliptical level 5. Essentrics Workout. Smiles, Teresa

When we used TOG, I didn't print everything. Matter of fact, I didn't print much at all =P My kiddos wrote their questions or copied the page. For lit, they only printed pages necessary for class. FWIW, TOG sells Student Activity Packs which is all the student pages printed in one place =) Smiles, Teresa

Great time of bible study today. Word study on believe vs. faith: believe, verb, Gr. pisteuo, is to be persuaded of, hence, to place confidence in, signifies reliance upon, not merely credence. faith, noun, Gr. pistis, is a firm persuasion based on hearing. The main elements in faith in its relation to the invisible God, as distinct from faith in man, are especially brought out in the use of this noun and the corresponding verb. They are (1) a firm conviction, producing a full acknowledgement of God's revelation or truth (2) a personal surrender to Him, and (3) a conduct inspired by such surrender. Ex. Abraham's faith wasn't in God's promise, it was in God Himself. Hence, Ab's faith was credited to him as righteousness (right standing with God). Gen 15:6; Romans 4:1-5 The point being there is much emphasis today in Christendom as a whole, on an experience versus conversion. Salvation is a gift from God in which He has provided atonement for our sin (sin not because we say it's sin, but because He does in His word). We are continually being saved as we endure. Does this make us more righteous in His sight? No. But at the judgement seat of Christ (different from the Great Judgement) we will receive rewards to be placed at His feet. Salvation is completed once we are in His presence. WooHoo! He is grace. He gave His all. He sought out a covenant relationship with fallen humanity. He paid the high price required by His holiness. He extends this grace gift to whomsoever will believe. "He desires that none should perish, but all come to eternal life." So why do some perish? Because He allows it in His permissive will (iow, things He permits though it breaks His heart). Let us consider God's perfect will versus His permissive will. In His perfect will, all come to salvation and live for His glory. In His permissive will, He allows us to make dumb choices---and live with the consequences. The verses to which Quiver originally referred, in context, relate to those who are false teachers who preach false good news thus making false converts. Yet, these followers are accountable for their actions because we are all called "to study to show yourself approved." 2Timothy 2:15. Contending for the faith, Teresa "No prophecy* of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation, for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God." 2 Peter 1:20-21 *prophecy: speaking forth the mind and counsel of God

tvaleri is just my first initial and last name. Boring. I have a son whose first initial is "t" as well. And a sil who has the same first name (spelled differently). We live in the same city. Tried to tell dh's other brother to marry a Teresa as well :lol: Smiles, Teresa