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  1. We've used Classical Writing right from Aesop and my daughter is finishing up with Herodotus presently. The wonderful thing about Classical Writing is that it's flexible. Once you get used to it, and used to your children's strengths and weaknesses with writing, you can add and drop segments and tailor it to fit your personal learning plan. We dropped the whole last part of Homer B because I thought that she had a good grasp of the concepts and that she'd get further practice on them in any case, and it never hurt her one bit. Have fun with your first foray into Aesop! It's a great place to start!
  2. For me, I like CW best but you have to be willing to put the time in to learn how it works. You don't need to add anything to it. I do not like IEW. I find it too formulaic and the writing produced from it often sounds contrived. I haven't looked at Classical Rhetoric through Structure & Style lately but all the other levels I've seen, including Elegant Essay and I was not impressed. Honestly, since you have a dd coming out of ps, if you want something straightforward and a solid program to give you a start, I would try WWS. I've used the first part of it and I really like it. Later, if you want to add a program that goes more in depth and works with the student's actual writing style, I'd go with either CW or CC. Sometimes the progymnasmata looks overwhelming for students who struggle with writing, but they break down the stages very logically and I know a number of struggling writers who have done very well using classical programs. HTH a little!:001_smile:
  3. I haven't read this whole thread (I should; it's great!) but since I'm using CW (so far Aesop through Diogenes), I thought I'd add some comments for further illumination! :) There were a couple of comments with regards to Homer that linked it to creative writing, which perhaps may not be entirely accurate. I believe the purpose of both Aesop and Homer is to expose the student to good writing (both structurally and morally) assuming that if good writing is what they are learning from, when they come to produce writing independently, their writing will be similar to the models. I did not feel there was any emphasis on creative writing and certainly any structure the student is exposed to (ie. outline) is in an essay-type format. I also noticed another comment about CW not including "modern" writing. We have just begun Diogenes (Love it!) so we haven't covered much of the essay writing yet, but when my dd had to set up her binder, she was instructed to have a section for "Modern Essay," so from that I can only suppose they teach it. In any case, I don't feel that how she is learning to write now is "un-modern". Even with learning to praise maxims, she can apply what she has learned to anything that deserves praise. With CW, doing all of it can be over-kill, so you have to be involved enough to adjust it where needed, to make it work for you. For example, we just skipped the last half of Homer B because it dealt with clarity, concision and credibility and I felt that my dd was reasonably proficient (at this level) in all these areas to move on. Many writing programs do a good job of teaching the student the structure and form of writing but CW, IMO, goes a step further and really works on teaching the student to write well, working from words, to sentences to paragraphs, etc.
  4. Hi Dyan! Remember our R&S Recordkeeping course conversation/thread from a year ago? Well, I saved it all this time, and reviewed it again just now. I just wanted to say thanks again for helping me - you answered every single question in an understandable manner. And I had questions in my mind today, that I realized were answered by you in that thread! I am going to buy this course, thanks to your help. I don't know when I'll have each kid go through it, but I will. And it will always be here on my shelf, in case their skills start fading away (as you warned), so they can review, too. Thank you!!!!

  5. Dear Dyan,

    I saw your post in the foreign language thread and I was wondering what is OSU German that you list? I am trying to learn German along with my son and the resources for German seem dismal.


    Thanks for any help,


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