The crust should have read Rapid Rise Yeast ... not Active Dry Yeast. Sorry.

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For the crust, that should be Rapid Rise Yeast. Not Active Dry Yeast. Sorry about that.

Here's the best and simplest pizza recipe I've been able to find. The recipe for the dough is the Calzone dough from one of the Jo Stepaniak's books. The sauce recipe if from FatFree.com. I've adjusted both to our own tastes. Pizza Sauce 1 6-oz. can tomato paste 2 8-oz. cans tomato sauce 2 tsp. anise seeds, freshly ground (use mortar and pestle) 1/4 tsp. pepper 1/4 tsp. garlic powder 1 tsp. oregano (I use Mexican oregano from Walmart's Hispanic section. Sort for rocks and rub between palms to crumble.) 1 tsp. Italian seasonings 1 tsp. chopped parsley crushed red pepper to taste 1 tbsp. or so of sugar Grind the anise seeds. Mix it all together and simmer until flavors meld together. Crust Whisk: 3 c. bread flour (I use King Arthur) 1/2 tsp. salt 2 tsp. sugar (not liquid of any kind) Pour about 1 1/2 c. warm water into bread machine. (I spray mine with Pam.) You will have to experiment with the amount of water, but you can tell when you've got it because the 'ball' of dough will be smooth and slightly sticky to the touch. Dump flour mixture on top. Put 1 tsp. rapid rise yeast on top of flour. Run on "Quick Dough" setting (about 45 min on my Zo) and when beeps, turn machine off and let sit in machine until dough rises just above top of breadpan. Mine takes up to another hour or so. To assemble, sprinkle pizza pan (cheap alum. pan from Wal Mart) with semolina flour (no oil on pan or in pizza) and mash out dough to edges of pan. Spread with pizza sauce and top with veggies. I cook mine about 20 - 35 min. at 400 degrees. I take it out and look at the center of the crust. If still soggy, return to oven and cook some more. You don't need any oil/fat whatsoever in this pizza. For toppings, we saute onions, garlic cloves. Throw on some bell peppers, broccoli, drained artichokes (no oil), olives, pineapple tidbits, frozen spinach (thaw and squeeze out with your hands), etc. You can even make up a dessert pizza with this crust recipe. Enjoy!

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Here's the best and simplest pizza recipe I've been able to find. The recipe for the dough is the Calzone dough from one of the Jo Stepaniak's books. The sauce recipe if from FatFree.com. I've adjusted both to our own tastes. Pizza Sauce 1 6-oz. can tomato paste 2 8-oz. cans tomato sauce 2 tsp. anise seeds, freshly ground (use mortar and pestle) 1/4 tsp. pepper 1/4 tsp. garlic powder 1 tsp. oregano (I use Mexican oregano from Walmart's Hispanic section. Sort for rocks and rub between palms to crumble.) 1 tsp. Italian seasonings 1 tsp. chopped parsley crushed red pepper to taste 1 tbsp. or so of sugar Grind the anise seeds. Mix it all together and simmer until flavors meld together. Crust Whisk: 3 c. bread flour (I use King Arthur) 1/2 tsp. salt 2 tsp. sugar (not liquid of any kind) Pour about 1 1/2 c. warm water into bread machine. (I spray mine with Pam.) You will have to experiment with the amount of water, but you can tell when you've got it because the 'ball' of dough will be smooth and slightly sticky to the touch. Dump flour mixture on top. Put 1 tsp. active dry yeast on top of flour. Run on "Quick Dough" setting (about 45 min on my Zo) and when beeps, turn machine off and let sit in machine until dough rises just above top of breadpan. Mine takes up to another hour or so. To assemble, sprinkle pizza pan (cheap alum. pan from Wal Mart) with semolina flour (no oil on pan or in pizza) and mash out dough to edges of pan. Spread with pizza sauce and top with veggies. I cook mine about 20 - 35 min. at 400 degrees. I take it out and look at the center of the crust. If still soggy, return to oven and cook some more. You don't need any oil/fat whatsoever in this pizza. For toppings, we saute onions, garlic cloves. Throw on some bell peppers, broccoli, drained artichokes (no oil), olives, pineapple tidbits, frozen spinach (thaw and squeeze out with your hands), etc. You can even make up a dessert pizza with this crust recipe. Enjoy!

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Well, we've gotten used to pizza without cheese, but if we want cheese, I use one of the various vegan cheese recipes floating around out there. I esp. like the one for grilled cheese sandwiches, which I don't have here at the library with me. Maybe next time ...

Yeah, I know. But this tastes really good. And I've never even liked pizza. Never. Not in my whole life. With or without the fat. Until I came up with this.

Here's the best and simplest pizza recipe I've been able to find. The recipe for the dough is the Calzone dough from one of the Jo Stepaniak's books. The sauce recipe if from FatFree.com. I've adjusted both to our own tastes. Pizza Sauce 1 6-oz. can tomato paste 2 8-oz. cans tomato sauce 2 tsp. anise seeds, freshly ground (use mortar and pestle) 1/4 tsp. pepper 1/4 tsp. garlic powder 1 tsp. oregano (I use Mexican oregano from Walmart's Hispanic section. Sort for rocks and rub between palms to crumble.) 1 tsp. Italian seasonings 1 tsp. chopped parsley crushed red pepper to taste 1 tbsp. or so of sugar Grind the anise seeds. Mix it all together and simmer until flavors meld together. Crust Whisk: 3 c. bread flour (I use King Arthur) 1/2 tsp. salt 2 tsp. sugar (not liquid of any kind) Pour about 1 1/2 c. warm water into bread machine. (I spray mine with Pam.) You will have to experiment with the amount of water, but you can tell when you've got it because the 'ball' of dough will be smooth and slightly sticky to the touch. Dump flour mixture on top. Put 1 tsp. rapid rise yeast on top of flour. Run on "Quick Dough" setting (about 45 min on my Zo) and when beeps, turn machine off and let sit in machine until dough rises just above top of breadpan. Mine takes up to another hour or so. To assemble, sprinkle pizza pan (cheap alum. pan from Wal Mart) with semolina flour (no oil on pan or in pizza) and mash out dough to edges of pan. Spread with pizza sauce and top with veggies. I cook mine about 20 - 35 min. at 400 degrees. I take it out and look at the center of the crust. If still soggy, return to oven and cook some more. You don't need any oil/fat whatsoever in this pizza. For toppings, we saute onions, garlic cloves. Throw on some bell peppers, broccoli, drained artichokes (no oil), olives, pineapple tidbits, frozen spinach (thaw and squeeze out with your hands), etc. You can even make up a dessert pizza with this crust recipe. Enjoy!

BJU has such a test. Our 20yod was looking for something like that and, besides library books where she didn't find really useful tests, that was about all I could find. But even after she got her results back she said she already knew most of the stuff they told her. Not sure it was all that useful either. FWIW.

What time do your teenagers go to bed? what time do they get up? What time do they start school? They each make up their own schedules and follow them independently, except for group things. Currently, we all do Greek at 7am, so I know we're all up by then. Each person fixes his own breakfast whenever he gets hungry - usually some form of oatmeal or supper leftovers. 17yod gets up between 4am and 5am. She reads her Bible and listens to J. Vernon McGee on the radio at 5:30am. Then, I think she does some school until time for Greek. 15yod gets up around 6:15am every day. She goes out to the camper and does stretches while she listens to her Bible-on-tape in German. (She's claimed one of the rooms in the camper as her own for hobbies, privacy, etc.) These two dd's, along with 20yod, all have a group thing they do in their room from around 8:30pm to about 9:40pm. Then they go to sleep. 15yod informs me that the group thing lasts even later on Friday nights, but not on the other nights. And at some point during that time, one of them runs out to lock up the chickens after they've gone to roost. I think they do 'paper-rock-scissors' to determine who gets this priviledge. After Greek, dd's run out to let chickens loose (the chickens roam the yard all day) and then they're back in to begin school again. They go until around 5pm, according to 15yod (she's sitting beside me here at the library), with various ones taking breaks here and there to go running or walking or listen to J. Vernon McGee on the radio or whatever they have scheduled. I've never had to 'wake up' any of our dc. I've never looked at it from quite that angle. To me, it's more like 'These are the subjects/books you have to master and these are the group things you have to plan around. Make up a schedule to get it done, let me see it when you get it made up, and then get to work doing it'. At least, that's what the whole process has evolved into now that they're all older. When they were younger, of course, *I* had to make up a lot of the schedules. But at some point it just became more efficient (and less nerve-wracking for me) for them to do this for themselves. I see it more as learning to be good stewards of this present time that the Lord has given them to do these particular things; and that's how I've explained it to them, also. Also, when they were younger, even though it was never a matter of getting them up, it *was* a matter of wrangling them all together and making them sit down to actually *do* school. But somewhere in the mid-teens that changes. And in hindsight, I think it could change a lot earlier than I had thought it could, since our now 15yod has been making her own schedules since she was 13yo. I've also come to realize after all this time hs'ing that schedules were made to be broken. For instance, they're all mostly outside after school until close to dark in the summer; but in the winter, when dark happens sometime around 5pm, they're inside more. Thus, they spend more time with the books in winter. Currently, 23yos up and decided to paint one of the 'shops' which he uses for his hobbies/privacy. This has spread to painting the entire house, so the tentative plan is to do school in the early mornings and on the bad weather days and paint on the clear days until the job is done. We'll see. As a disclaimer, here, I should say that I've never had deadlines for anything. I'm more interested in their learning the material backwards and forwards and I've never been able to put a 'time limit' on that process. This decision was probably a result of watching my oldest ds go through the ps system where everything and everyone is constantly on a deadline. It was a catastrophe for him. But whatever the cause it's worked well for our particular family.

He could also do things with his brothers like running, weight-lifting, riding bikes, etc. The youngest could ride his bike while the older runs. Our girls go running with their brothers. The guys will double back to keep the girls in sight, so they don't have to break the pace to wait for their slower and smaller sisters. Also, you can go walking with him yourself. I usually walk with one child per day. It doubles for exercise and private time where they discuss things with me that they'd rather their sibs didn't hear. Works great. FWIW.

What have you done in the past? What are you currently working on? What do you have sitting on your shelf waiting for you? What are your long term plans/goals? What books are you using? this sounds like it could turn into an immense essay. But I'll resist... unless of course, someone actually wants that. Past - can't remember so much of that. Would have to sit and think and write at home. If you really want to know, let me know and I'll attempt it. Currently - Spending all my 'spare' time on logic and math, with a spattering of Greek (Bible is a given at all times). Guess you could say all those other subjects are sitting on the shelf waiting for me. They all glare at me every time I pass by the shelf, but I do my best to ignore them. I've tried to explain to them that it's all I can do to keep up with the logic and math, but they aren't convinced. Not sure I am either. Anyway, dc and I are all doing Suppes' first book together. They all seem to know what they're doing, so my goal is to stay a few exercises ahead of them so's I can check my answers against theirs (they do theirs in our group logic time - 45min time allotted for logic, Mon-Thurs afternoons, where we do about 1 of the Russian Mathematical Circles problems + Suppes book. I stink at the Russian problems.) I love this logic book. I get up in the middle of the night to work on it, sometimes. Turn on TheClassicalStation.org, pull out my white board, and get totally lost in it. (Ds says I get up in the middle of the night to 'catch my brain off guard'. Some truth in that ... And it works even better if I'm riding the exercise bike, too.;)) I haven't had this much fun with a 'subject' since I can't remember when. And the white board is an absolute necessity, by the way. I can sit and try to do a problem on paper, hitting a dead end every time; but as soon as I put it on the white board, the answer pops out at me. I'm also doing Frank Allen's Algebra book. That's much easier now that I've gotten into the logic (we're at the end of Ch. 3 in Suppes). And, the usual Math history, primary source, and R&S - all of which I do with dc. We also do Hermeneutics together. And read Puritan writings and Christian bio's together. Currently, we're finishing up Jeremiah Burrough's "Treatise on Earthly-Mindedness ..." and will start a bio next. We choose those together. We're also running through Moutoux's Diagramming books together. I spend some time testing new vegan recipes most weekends. This keeps us from eating the same foods ad nauseum, since dc don't do a terrible lot of experimenting when they cook. We're learning tons about black bears by watching them in the yard/property. For instance, you never let your 6 pound Chihuahua outside when a male bear and a female bear are hovering over your backyard birdfeeder. The Chi runs right between the two bears, the big male swats the Chi, and you spend half your Saturday at the emergency vet hospital getting the grass and dirt cleaned out of her mouth and her bottom lip sewn back onto her chin (and thanking God it was nothing worse). Then, you come home and make her special foods for a week or two (brown rice, chicken broth, mixed veggies, and tiny chunks of meat) because she can't eat very well (and also because you feel like the worst dogowner in the world...). There's plenty more to learn, but bears were probably not what you were asking about. Anyway, my computer is about to time out, so I'll have to end this a little abruptly. If I think of other things, I'll post them later. Maybe I'll even write it up at home and let dh post it. It helps me to write it.

because most of them love it. Another idea I would toss in here, though, is to reserve one very large chunk of time (our dc take every Friday) to allow them to write longer papers, dig deeper into any library books, just sit and dig into the actual hist. book itself ... whatever they want to do. This was actually our dc's idea because they said that the hour or two per day was not enough time to sit and think and write and read, etc. About the time they were just getting into it, it was time to move on to another subject. They've been doing this for about 9 months and it's working wonderfully. HTH, Kathy

What he's doing in Chemistry looks a lot like math to ME! Why is he able to successfully apply the concepts in Chemistry, but not Algebra? I once asked my dh (who did all his PhD work in Chemistry and Physics, got a job, and never went back to defend his dissertation) about all this math stuff back when Adrian began posting. He said he went into the sciences because the math was too hard. Which leads me to believe that mathematics and the sciences are two totally different animals. FWIW

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But the basic message was there. After the "We" it was supposed to say that we're 45 minutes from town, which makes us rural. Oh well. I wanted to add that this system has worked out much better than I had thought it would when dh came up with the idea. And I really enjoy NOT having to run around to the stores. Most of them blast such loud, lousy music that I can't hear myself think. (I often wonder if they know that shoppers like myself RACE through the store because of it, spending less in the process!) Also, I'm not as good at remembering every price like dh does. He is constantly catching overcharges. And we get a lot more school done since we began this years ago. And we manage to avoid things like flu and colds. The only time dc and I do any shopping now is when we have to try on or search for clothes or very specific things. Anyway, HTH. KathyP

and the thing that's worked best for us is for my husband to do 99% of the shopping. Since he drives right by the grocery store every day on his way home from work, he can stop whenever we need fresh veggies and such. He does the Wal Mart every 1-2 weeks. He does Asian whenever we need something. Same with Natural Food store. He does mall shopping whenever we need something. Now that I've gotten used to this, it's wonderful. It was a little rough in the beginning though. Here are some of the things we do to make it easier for dh, and for me and dc. We make very, very specific lists. I write quantities (if it's on sale, dh is liable to buy zillions of it, with no thought as to where we will store all that stuff!). If I want something other than store brands, I write that. I write the lists according to the layout of the store (Wal Mart lists begin with toiletries, Kroger begins with fresh veggies, etc.). This helps him whiz through the store (he sometimes shops on his lunch hour). I also make individual lists for each store and keep copies of them until they're done (he has been known to lose them). Sometimes I put a bright mark beside the items for which there are coupons; but since he often doesn't look at the list until he's actually IN the store, I may start stapling the coupons to the actual list. (He often forgets the coupons in his car.) He takes coolers to store things in if it's hot. We save all receipts and if he gets something we don't want/need/like, we bag it up with the receipt and he returns/exchanges it. For clothes and shoes, we write as much as possible - colors, sizes, store, brand, etc. - if we know them. Otherwise, we may actually have to go into town every so often. If it's an internet order, we try to find the exact site, along with the item number, ISBN, etc., when we're at the library (no net at home). We write all the info on a piece of paper (1 per item) for him and he scribbles the date he ordered it and from where on the paper and brings it back to us. (We also keep copies of these. We own a copier.)

that the schools would educate our children and that church would teach them about the Lord and the Bible. That's what our parents believed and we just picked it up from them. Needless to say, we no longer believe it. KathyP

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