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I'm so sorry to hear of this, Joanne. You're in my prayers.
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This is the form letter that my friend received:
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Thank you for your email below. We understand that homeschool moms are waiting patiently as we develop the new user friendly upgrade to the software, however, there are currently over 2,000 users daily using the existing software. As of September 2013, the product has been fully functional for creating and assigning lesson plan as well as grading.
We are working diligently to get the new interface up, and we have graciously extended a free year to everyone who signed up last year, even though the purchase price was as little as $40.
HEDUA has gone above and beyond to make our customers happy and at this point, we ask that you patiently wait, as we are making sure the upgrade performs well.>> -
One of the customers who purchased the software last year asked them if they would give her a discount on the print planner so that she could use that while she waited for the software to be repaired. They refused to give it to her, saying that subscribers were being given an additional free year of service, not a discount for the hard copy. Not long after that, they ran a big promo, offering 30% discounts to all NEW customers who bought the print version.
Unreal.
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Another disgruntled user told me that she tried to warn people on the message board she frequents, and it seemed that they had a hard time believing her because of their positive impressions of the company and its products. It didn't sound like any of them had tried using the electronic planner, and they were pleased with the print version.
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It didn't "happen to them." That makes it sound like it was beyond their control. They brought it on themselves, and from what I've seen, continue to make things worse every step of the way.
True, but when I read the post you quoted, I didn't think she was saying that it was beyond their control. I took it to mean that she thought it was sad to see a company with so much potential be destroyed due to their own lack of wisdom and business sense. It is very obvious that they are not the victims here.
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They are probably aware of this thread. I would imagine that a few of the people who still support them might check this forum. The owner even has an account here, although she has only posted once, I think.
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I don't think we'll ever get our money back. I think that eventually they may produce a useable product, but I want nothing to do with it because of this debacle. I will not do business with them, and I will discourage others from doing so as well.
If you go and just read through some of the long threads you'll see that there was a progression of frustration. In early August a lot of us were still trying to reason with them, asking for a firm release date, trying to be gracious. We warned them that in the homeschool world businesses succeed and fail based upon word of mouth. We asked repeatedly for the owners of the company to come forward and give their side of the story. No response, none. They've left the moderator of the FB page to fend for herself. When she is asked direct questions, she most often replies that she doesn't know and that we should send our questions to customer service or tech support. I did receive one answer from customer service, telling me that they were waiting for the software to be just right before releasing it again.
This whole situation makes me believe all the more that we are dealing with a narcissist. The Great and Powerful Oz is really just a woman whose overinflated ego has convinced her that her business will survive and even flourish in the wake of this fiasco. Pull back the curtain, and there she is.
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I am so glad to see this thread! I paid cash for my subscription in June of 2012. This program has never worked properly, and was always a disappointment. Early on when we alerted them to the issues, they begged us to be patient while they worked out the kinks. After all, it was still in Beta at that point. When many of us were still within the 30-day window, we decided to be merciful and patient, and to wait. We thought that if they could iron out the wrinkles, this would be a great program, and indeed it would. Unfortunately, whoever is doing the programming seems woefully ill-equipped to do that job, and the wrinkles have remained for an unacceptable period of time. Now if any of us ask for a refund they tell us that that window closed a long time ago, and we are stuck. A few people have pushed for refunds, and received them, minus a restocking fee. Yes, a restocking fee for web-based software!
The last time they published an update on their website was in November, 2012. And now they ban people who complain on their FB page. I agree that people should join together and start a FB group for disgruntled users, specifically for the purpose of taking legal action.
My theory is that they don't have the money to give refunds, and that they themselves are the "new tech team." You'd think that a family-based business would offer better customer service, but this is the worst I've ever experienced.
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I've been looking for these as well. My children are using this text in a class, so they write out this material when they take lecture notes. The module summary is just a way for them to review, so it would be great if we could find a printable version. There is an Apologia Biology Yahoo group, and although they offer printable study guides, they don't have the Module Summaries.
Bummer.
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Yes, I can laugh about it now! :-)
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Yes, and now they're censoring the FB page by deleting any negative comments and banning the posters. It is clear that there is a great deal of instability at the top of that company. It's very sad.
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And tonight they announced that they'll delete negative comments and ban the posters thereof. Legitimate complaints and questions continue to go mostly unanswered. Many of us have basically lost our money. We paid for an unreliable product. Despite promises to the contrary, the company has failed to make improvements. I just hope that others who are tempted by all of the glitter will take a few minutes to read what other users have to say about this product. Also, the quotes on their main page are not to be believed. I know for a fact that one of them was written by someone who loved the software for the first couple of days that she had it, but quickly found it to be unusable. She has since updated her blog to voice her disappointment, and is horrified that her original (glowing) endorsement may now lead others to make the same unfortunate mistake.
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Marbel,
What did you decide to use? I'm thinking of having ds work through Economics for Everybody in a co-op setting, but we'd like to flesh it out a bit. We thought of using Whatever Happened to Penny Candy?, but we're just not sure. We noticed that EfE refers to Basic Economics, but we aren't sure about the Carson book, and we wouldn't like to spend $35 to find that we dislike it.
We looked through the Sowell book, and it looks good, but we'd have to carefully go through and match up the pages/concepts.
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It's good that you weren't holding your breath, Angel. They didn't release it today, nor do they know when they will do so. I was told that they'll do it "When it's just right".
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Dawn,
I think that it's *supposed* to do that, but the program is a train wreck, and there are no guarantees that any aspect of it will work properly. The company doesn't even seem to be supporting it anymore because now they're working on the new and improved version.
I hope you're still in the free trial period.
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I encountered the same problem tonight. I'm just going to give up on StartWrite and figure out another method of making handwriting worksheets. Here's a thread from the Apple Support forums: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4850187?start=0&tstart=0
(I realize that the OP asked this question six months ago, but I thought I'd update in case anyone else was wondering. :001_smile: )
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The complete three-year course is available now for only $80! This is a great deal, if you're interested in teaching your children Koine Greek.
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Our homeschool support group has been offered the opportunity to partner with Cedarville University in a dual enrollment program. Before signing a contract with the University, we would like to obtain both positive and negative feedback from former students and/or their parents. If you or someone you know has taken online courses at Cedarville for dual enrollment credit, please share your impressions with me. If you don't feel comfortable speaking about it publicly, please feel free to send me a private message here.
Thanks so much,
Angela
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This belongs here. It is legendary. The old timers will know what I mean. :-)
Kelli's Ode to a Toilet
[ K-8 General Board ]

Posted by Kelli in TN on 13:05 Nov 22


<<Okay, the toilet in the kids bathroom is horrid. Dh says he is not replacing it until they all move away! However, in 2 days 32 in-laws will descend upon my house and I want a new toilet!!!! We have argued and argued this point and I thought perhaps if I injected a little humor into the argument.

 So, here goes.....


"Behold, there cometh forth a multitude;

Yea even a multitude of in-laws,
 Mother in law, Father in law, behold they bringeth with them 
even sisters in law and brothers in law,
and the husbands of sisters in law 
and also the wives of brothers in law
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And behold the brother of the husband of the sister in law doth approach and with him there cometh his children, and his wife and lo, even his wife's melba.

And thy nieces and thy nephews will descend upon thy house and bring forth their own spouses and children. 

And they shall approach thy wife, yea even the wife of thy middle age, the mother of thine children, hearken unto me, and give remembrance to thy wife, the mother of thy six children and remember that she did not shrinketh away from the labors of childbirth but instead caused thee to be fruitful and multiply many times over.
Give ear to thy wife now and hear the petition of thy wife, the bride of thy middle age. 

For the in laws shall descend upon thy house and thy wife's house and even thy children's house. And they shall bring all manner of items in Tupperware containers and they shall eat and they shall drink, yea even shall they sup at thine table and the tables that are brought forth by thy niece and the husband of thy niece.
And when they are satisfied with thy meat and thy drink and the abundance of Tupperware contents, then they shall seek out the bathroom. Yea, even the restroom.
And they shall look upon thy toilet with contempt and shall mutter one to another 'Behold the stains in the bottom of the bowl, and lo, the lid to the tank is broken, yea it is broken into many pieces and the pieces are not together and it is an abomination to our eyes.'


And thy wife, yea, the wife of thy middle age, who forbear to make thy quiver full, and even thy underwear drawer to be filled with clean raiment for thy use, even she shall hang her head in shame at the sight of the toilet.


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Do you think it will work? 
Kelli>>
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Yes, another vote for MCT. Maybe you can find a used copy if the new ones would blow your budget. :001_smile:
Wow, I think she'd be a *perfect* candidate for MCT -- except that she may need more input from you than you'd have time to give her.. -
Thanks, everyone. I'll look into all of these options. I'm also considering Scholars Online and Veritas Scholars Academy. So many choices, so much to think about. :001_smile:
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Ds will be in 10th grade next year, and I'd like him to take an online course in formal academic writing. Because we use TOG, I'm considering using the Lampstand Learning Center, so that his writing assignments will be related to the books that he'll be reading for History and Literature.
I am not, however completely sold on this idea because I have no knowledge of the instructor, and there is only one section, and the timing of it could make us late for another commitment.
Do any of you have recommendations for specific teachers/courses/online academies?
Thank you! :)
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You were not snotty, Rose. Feel free to call me out if I need correction. I can take it. :001_smile:
The world is watching.
Hear, hear! :iagree:
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Hi All,
I'm posting this question on behalf of a friend. (No, really!)
She homeschools her K and 4th grade kids, but her 8th grader attends to a Christian school that only goes through 8th grade. They are now in trying to plan for next year.
Her son is truly an advanced student, and definitely needs to be challenged academically. He is in the process of applying to a few area private high schools, but will need a pretty significant scholarship to be able to attend. They haven't totally ruled out the public high school, but among other issues, it really isn't a great school.
My friend would like to homeschool him, offering opportunities for advanced online courses and eventually he would be able to take college-level classes. He is not at all interested in being homeschooled.
So now (in the event that the scholarship doesn't pan out) his parents are trying to decide whether they should just say "Look, we've considered all of the options, we think that this one is best." and let him deal with it, or if they should let him go to the public high school and deal with the accompanying issues.
Do you know of anyone who has brought an unwilling teen home for high school? How did it work out?
Thanks! :001_smile:
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MCT ibooks questions
in K-8 Curriculum Board
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I unearthed this thread so that I could ask one question about the i-book, and after reading all of your posts, I think i know the answer. I don't suppose it's possible to print pages from the i-book, is it? I'd like the added bonuses of the digital version, but I'd like for my students to be able to write their answers on paper. Can anyone comment on that?
Thanks!