No I don't have it but I think I recall reading it! I remember because I was a big fan of Daniel Kirk's "Dogs Rule" book and was wondering if you were one in the same? I know what it's like to lose touch with the forums. When the kids were moving out it was a crazy couple years and when I settled back in I found I'd lost all my old posts, forgot my old password, and had to make a new account last year to post again. ;) So gray! Good luck finding the old writing.

I've had similar issues and I think we've all seen something like this from time to time. I personally take social differences in stride and try to present it from both sides so it's clear I'm not judging anyone. I think that their DD would already be wondering about the difference in lifestyle choices between your families. I assume when she is over you expect her to behave according to your rules? I would just be very frank that you do not want to impose your values on them, and you would have to impose your choices on them to leave your DD in their care at her impressionable young age. Their daughter is welcome to come over any time but she's got to respect your rules and they have to understand that too. If they don't want their daughter to be exposed to your rules and lifestyle they can make that call. Fair is fair?

http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~kemmer/Words04/history/index.html

I would eat it, but I wouldn't let my kids eat it.

There's a couple of ideas I've never thought about. thanks for sharing. KG Everyone needs an internet fax service.