Hi everyone, One of my best and brightest Latin 2 students has decided to switch to Russian. Our Latin teacher can handle Russian as well, but I'm having trouble finding classmates for her! In addition, we've got student who wants classmates for Latin 3. We'll probably march through Gaul with Caesar and toss in some Cicero for fun. Please contact me off-list if your high school student would like to join either class. Thanks, Christine Hahn www.latinforhomeschoolers.com

I'll have to check that out. Thanks for sharing!

"gratias vobis ago" is how you say it. :)

I had two students who loved everything about it EXCEPT their experience in the Latin 1 correspondence course. The course consisted of getting through all of Wheelock in a year and taking exams with absolutely no instruction or guidance from the school at all. Once these students moved onto campus and enrolled in traditional classes, they loved the school and the Latin classes...one even majored in Classical Liberal Arts.

I've had the opportunity to work with both of these programs in great detail. Some of my students use Artes Latinae and I taught from Latin Alive in a co-op setting a few years ago. As with everything in life, there are pros and cons to each. Artes Latinae: Pros: *Thorough--one of the best in terms of explaining both English and Latin grammar, imho *Sentences and readings are based on ancient authors *Your daughter can work at her own pace. *Ancillary readers are a great source of practice Cons: *Non-traditional format is very off-putting for some people *Requires a motivated student who isn't just going through the motions *Large up-front investment Latin Alive: Pros: *Minimal upfront investment *Traditional format *Active support group Cons: *Not practice exercises, imho *Readings, based on Livy, are at times rather convoluted and difficult for students. Whatever program you choose, this rule will be instrumental in your daughter's Latin success: MEAT (Memorize Everything All the Time). If there's a chart, memorize it; if there's a vocabulary list, memorize if as if your life depended on it. Take your time, and be sure you have the current chapter's information completely under control before you proceed to the next. Everything else flows from there.

I think I might use it for a small group of Latin 4 students in the fall.

For those of you who are ready to tackle unadapted Caesar, this is nothing short of amazing. This also includes the lines for the revised AP syllabus. Really cool features: Text as a pdf with vocab and commentary on facing pages Translation Sheets Vocabulary flashcards in ppt and jpg format (download and use on a smartphone or tablet or touch!!!!) Text as double-spaced powerpoint (for those of you working in a group environment) Latin geeks all over the world are doing the happy dance right now. http://collegecaesar.wordpress.com/college-caesar/

Hello everone, I saw this on another list, and it made me think of those of you who work so hard to teach your children Latin. The cool folks at Dickinson College have provided an updated (improved!) version of the 1000 most common Latin words. Right now, it's simply an alphabetical list, but it looks like it will eventually be organized by parts of speech and semantic category. http://dcc.dickinson.edu/vocab/vocabulary-lists Enjoy! Christine

I've always had a soft spot for Artes Latinae, but that might be a result of my Michigan bias.:)

Yes, we're going to look at individual years, as well as groups of years. I wanted to start w/2012, because everyone has just gotten the scores and the students would be more able to recall information on a test they just took, than on several years past.

Only 27 so far, but it's still early. :001_smile:

You are using the Henle First Year book, so please answer Henle 1. Thank You!

Ooooh, good idea. I'll put that on my list for tomomorrow. I also have some really useful ELE prep materials to share for next year's test. I've prepped classes for the ELE a few times now, and it has been my experience that the items tested are not to be found anywhere in the books marketed for the homeschooling community.

As usual, your wisdom exceeds your pay grade. :001_smile:

maximas gratias tibi ago. :)

(This is posted in the general forum as well) Hi everyone, Now that NLE scores are rolling in, I've got a new survey for you! The idea is to see whether or not there is a correspondence between various textbooks and success on the NLE. This will likely be an annual study. It is designed to be informative, yet short -- it took me less than 3 minutes to complete when I tested it. Here's the link: http://latinforhomeschoolers.com/blogs/magistrahahn/2012/04/latin-homeschooling-community-2012-nle-survey I hope to post results once we hit 300 responses. The sooner we get to that mark, the sooner I can start crunching numbers and share the news with you!:001_smile:

Hi everyone, Now that NLE scores are rolling in, I've got a new survey for you! The idea is to see whether or not there is a correspondence between various textbooks and success on the NLE. This will likely be an annual study. It is designed to be informative, yet short -- it took me less than 3 minutes to complete when I tested it. Here's the link: http://latinforhomeschoolers.com/blogs/magistrahahn/2012/04/latin-homeschooling-community-2012-nle-survey I hope to post results once we hit 300 responses. The sooner we get to that mark, the sooner I can start crunching numbers and share the news with you!:001_smile:

oooh, thank you. I'll look into those and make corrections.

Yes, I want to get into the nitty gritty of each book, the glorious details that make Latin nerds happy! Many traditional books have a scope and sequence mapped out, but I'm finding that books marketed towards the homeschooling community often don't. I have mixed feelings about using the NLE as an indicator of Latin proficiency. Perhaps that's because I know too many people who consider it flawed and/or not in line with their personal goals for Latin study. I'm personally into reading and grammar, and I'm always a little miffed at the amount irrelevant cultural tidbits students are expected to know. When I taught at a classical Christian school, students were appalled at having to learn Roman mythology. I think the Latin SAT would be a better indicator of Latin proficiency, but many students, both homeschooled and otherwise, stop taking Latin before they are anywhere near ready to take that test. By the time you get that far in Latin, it doesn't matter if your primary textbook was Henle, Cambridge, Wheelock, Ecce Romani, or something else, because you've already done enough advanced study to full in whatever gaps your first textbook may have had.

First of all, sorry for the cross posting. I tried to put this under the original post, but I got trapped in the land of resurrected threads. Some of you were trapped with me and ended up taking the survey again, even though it was originally conducted this summer. Sorry about that! Result: I am posting this again as a new thread. Here is the link to the original thread (from the survey that was conducted this summer): http://www.welltrainedmind.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2834492 ANYWAYS, it's been almost 9 months since the survey! The actual paper itself is kind of long and academic, about 3000 words. It isn't available yet, but it will be published in the upcoming edition of Teaching Classical Languages 3.2 (Spring 2012), available at www.tcl.camws.org Now that the formal paper is done, the Latin for Homeschoolers blog will publish regular information about survey results that will be useful (hopefully) to homeschooling parents who are in the trenches, teaching Latin to their children every day. Today's article has to do with which books survey respondents used, and their opinions of these books. Here's the link: http://latinforhomeschoolers.com/blo...k-should-i-use PS...a new and improved survey is in the works for this summer!

Wow, I can't believe that it's been almost 9 months since the survey! The actual paper itself is kind of long and academic, about 3000 words. The formal paper is set to be published in the upcoming edition of Teaching Classical Languages 3.2 (Spring 2012) www.tcl.camws.org. (It isn't available yet!) Now that the big paper is done, the Latin for Homeschoolers blog will publish regular information about survey results that will be useful (hopefully) to homeschooling parents who are in the trenches, teaching Latin to their children every day. Today's article has to do with which books survey respondents used, and their opinions of these books. Here's the link: http://latinforhomeschoolers.com/blo...k-should-i-use PS...a new and improved survey is in the works for this summer! The formal paper is set to be published in the upcoming edition of Teaching Classical Languages 3.2 (Spring 2012) www.tcl.camws.org.

??? I'm so confused...what do you mean by resurrected thread trap? I'm still kind of new this interface. Somehow I find it a little more difficult clunky than grammar charts.

LOL!!! I think I spend a good portion of the paper explaining the flaws in the survey, and that one in particular is discussed in GREAT detail. You could say I'm really good at Latin and really bad a surveys. Fortunately, I learned a lot on the first pass. Year two should be much better, or at least the mistakes will be different.

Brilliant minds must think alike. The issues you mentioned -- relationship between parent experience in Latin and success/failure of book X -- are things that I hope to address for each book in future articles. The success and failure rate of various books were my invention. I want to get deeper into how many people actually liked a book, not just how many people used it. Unfortunately, the survey didn't ask about NLE or ELE, so we won't be able to find any correlation (or lack thereof), but these items will be included in future surveys. On a side note, the ELE isn't a great measure of how much Latin a student knows, because it's more culture and basic vocabulary. It doesn't test grammar at all.

Wow, I can't believe that it's been almost 9 months since the survey! Anyways, the formal paper is set to be published in the upcoming edition of Teaching Classical Languages 3.2 (Spring 2012) www.tcl.camws.org. The actual paper itself is kind of long and academic, about 3000 words. Now that the big paper is done, the Latin for Homeschoolers blog will publish regular information about survey results that will be useful (hopefully) to homeschooling parents who are in the trenches, teaching Latin to their children every day. Today's article has to do with which books survey respondents used, and their opinions of these books. Here's the link: http://latinforhomeschoolers.com/blogs/magistrahahn/2012/03/latin-homeschooling-community-survey-update-which-latin-book-should-i-use PS...a new and improved survey is in the works for this summer!