Here is the link to the Elementary Scope and Sequence which will tell you what is taught in each Math Light Unit. http://www.clp.org/store/by_grade/23 When we switched to CLE, my dd tested into Level 400, but after looking at the Scope & Sequence, I saw where topics were that she hadn't touched on yet (decimals, measuring) so we backed up and did 306-308, then jumped to 402 because she aced the 401 test. The other reason I started her back from where she tested is because I wanted it to be easy enough that she'd be successful as she transitioned into a new math program. FYI, the Light Unit 01 of each Level (200, 300, 400) is a review of the previous level. 201 reviews Level 100, 301 reviews level 200, etc. If they test well in 01, you can skip that Light Unit and move right into the 02 unit of the Level you are working in.

Ditto! :iagree:

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We are trying out TT 7, on loan from a friend, and I'm bothered by the same thing you mentioned. Why not use numerator and denominator when referring to the parts of a fraction instead of saying "tops and bottoms"? My question (sorry, if I'm stealing the thread) is that I'm wondering if in later courses of TT, they switch to using proper math terminology or do they continue to refer to fraction parts as "tops and bottoms in every level of TT?"

I have a similar dilemma. My 6th grade dd has completed CLE 400-505. She really dislikes CLE (I LOVE it) and has asked to switch to TT. I'm also concerned that TT is too easy because after finishing CLE 505, she tested into TT7 and won't even learn any new material until she reaches lesson 35-40 in TT. The pro in doing TT is that the review in the early lessons can build her confidence since math isn't her thing AND she seems to like TT better than CLE so she's more motivated to get math done which is a real plus for us. :) She also likes that TT gives her immediate feedback when she gets a problem wrong so she can correct it right away. Even when we were doing CLE, I had her do CLE only 4 days a week, then she did a LOF lesson on Friday (we call it "Friday's with Fred") as well as another LOF lesson on the weekend. I plan to continue LOF in conjuction with TT7. I would have a mutiny on my hands if I had her do TT AND CLE together because math would take too long to complete and it'd be a sure formula for burnout in her case. I'd choose one or the other, but not both. I'm still not convinced I want to switch from CLE to TT, but I told dd we'd give TT a try after she completed CLE 505. By the way, she usually scores in the 90's on her CLE quizzes and tests so she was doing well in the program but it made her groan every time we pulled it out. She hates math so I'm hoping TT might remove some of her abhorence of the subject. Since your son is an auditory learner, TT's lectures would be a plus! If he LOVES TT that is another plus! Perhaps you could supplement TT with LOF?

My dd does CLE Math 4 days a week (Mon-Th) and has "Friday's with Fred" (completes 1 LOF lesson). She is also assigned an additional LOF lesson to do over the weekend. If she prefers to not have "homework" on the weekend, she can choose to do that LOF lesson during the week at her leisure. Yes, it will stretch out our year by only doing CLE 4x a week instead of 5x, but I didn't want to overload her with too much math.

If you purchase an e-book instead of the CD-rom and your computer crashes, is there any recourse in receiving another e-book from the company or are you out-of-luck?

The answers for quizzes and test should be in the answer key. When I first started CLE, I had to dig around the AK to find them because they aren't where you think they'd be. Have you looked in the middle of the AK? The quiz and test answers have a light grey vertical stripe on the edge of the page. In Reading 500, the self-check answers are in the back. Apparently they want you to be able to remove the test & quiz portions of the AK if you have your children check their work, but I wish they'd just put everything together according to LU to simplify it all.

Has anyone received your copy yet? I pre-ordered, but mine won't ship until later this month. Looking forward to hearing from someone who has the book in hand! :)

If you want her to stay with agemates in Sunday School and other activities, I'd switch her NOW as it'll only get harder the older she gets because she'll want to move ahead with her Sunday School class. If you keep her on the same track she is on now (1-2 years younger than other kids in SS), fast forward to her middle school years. In Junior High youth group, kids will be 12-13 and she'll be much younger. My dd repeated K class in Sunday school because I wanted her to stay with her age mates rather than being the youngest. It was hard at the time because she wanted to move up with the 1st graders, but in retrospect it was the right decision. Now that she is in 6th grade some of her friends are moving into the youth group (7th-8th graders) and because of my dd's maturity level, I'm really glad that she's not moving into the group just yet as she is still "young" and IMHO, there is no need to have them grow up faster than they need to. You can always bump her up a grade in SS if you find that she matures early. Hope this helps!

I use CLE Math instead of Saxon, but they have similarities in their approach. On M-Th, we do CLE and we have "Friday's with Fred." I also plan to assign another Fred chapter as homework over the weekend.

No, I don't think CLE needs supplementing. I used CLE 400 without supplementing. We are half-way through 500 and I decided to throw in Life of Fred: Fractions on the side. Why? Though I LOVE CLE, my dd does not, but I'm not sure she would like any math curriculum. :) She's making good progress with CLE so I don't want to switch curriculums, but I think LOF will bring some "fun" back into math and will also help cement concepts by requiring her to think in a different way. We do CLE on Mon-Thursday and she has "Friday's with Fred". I plan to assign another LOF lesson on the weekend as homework. We just started this plan so too soon to say if it is working! :)

I'm looking at this program and am wondering if you followed through with your order. If so, can you provide a review? Thanks!

I'm gearing up to begin Town level in Sept. Since I already own Daily Grams, I'm having dd complete one page a day since it includes one practice capitalization and punctuation sentence. It only takes her a few minutes to complete. After we officially begin MCT, we'll see whether or not we need to continue doing a Daily Gram.

I had the same question so thanks for asking! :iagree: bonniebeth4 - Thanks for posting MCT's reply as it was helpful! :)

I'd love a code, too, if anyone has one they won't be using!

I started my 8 yo in Level B when we switched from another math program but if I had started her in RS at age 6, I would've used Level A. You can go slowly through B with a 6 yo, but IMHO Level A seems like a perfect fit for that age group.

They are offering a group buy until June 29 that can save $$ if you need to purchase RS Math. It's free to join the Homechool Buyer's Co-op. http://www.homeschoolbuyersco-op.org/rightstart-mathematics/

I think it is wise to evaluate not only what works for the student, but what will also work for the teacher! :) I really needed my dd to do more independent work this year so CLE LA was wonderful! I LOVE it, but dd is not crazy about workbooks so I decided to change things up for next year by using MCT Town Level. The jury is still out since I haven't actually started using it yet, but I certainly like the looks of it. I'd actually like to do a combo of MCT and CLE but that would probably be total overkill! :)

What grade level did she complete in BJU? Where did the CLE placement test suggest she start? My newly turned 11 yo barely tested into CLE 500 last fall (scored a 70) and I wondered what to do. I started her in 500, but happened to also have CLE Level 400 practice pages so I ran her through those quickly at the start of the year. She is just finishing up CLE 500 and will turn 12 this summer. Not sure if that helps, but thought I'd share!:)

I'll share our experience with both programs. We started with MUS Alpha when my dd was 6 yo. Although, I LOVED it, dd was in tears because she just couldn't get her addition facts memorized so we were "stuck" since MUS is a program that expects/requires mastery before moving on. She was doing the same type of problems day after day, was frustrated, bored, etc... The mastery approach didn't work well for her so I reluctantly switched to RS after she asked me if there was a Math without Tears program (at the time, we were using Handwriting without Tears). We switched to RS Level B (also completed Level C) and it was a better fit. RS has variety to the lesson, uses various manipulatives, and she prefers the abacus to the MUS blocks. Level B has 1 worksheet per lesson plus the opportunity to play the Math Card Games which she really enjoyed. RS is teacher intensive in that you have to sit down and teach the lesson. It is not hard to teach, but it does take time. If you plan to use RS, be sure to play the card games a lot because that is where they master their math facts since RS doesn't utilize many worksheets in the earlier level. I think they are both great programs! Sometimes you don't know what will work best with your student until you make the decision and try it out.

If you want a workbook format for LA, I'd recommend either Growing with Grammar or CLE. Both are in workbook format so the teaching is directed to the student and is clear and concise. We've used both successfully (GWG 3 & 4, CLE 500). You can start GWG at grade level, but I'd recommend you take the CLE placement test if you plan to go that route as it's important to place student at the appropriate level for success. We just finished CLE 500 and I plan to use MCT Town with dd next year just to change things up. CLE does traditional sentence diagramming and MCT does the 4 level analysis.

Thanks Heather! That really helps! :)

Heather, When you mention that the exercises take up 1/3 of the page...are there exercises on each page? I was looking for more of a reference book than a practice book as CLE LA provides lots of practice on its own. Thanks for sharing!

Could you tell me more about it? I read the book's description and perused the sample pages on the CLE website, but still have questions. The sample pages on the website show practice exercises so I am curious about how much of the book is devoted to these exercises versus reference information? Would you recommend it even if you are not going to use CLE LA in Gr.7-12 (not sure what we'll be doing for those grades yet)? Or is it primarily set up to use with CLE and isn't as useful if you choose another LA curriculum for HS? I'm about to place my CLE order and wondered if I might like the English Handbook as a future reference tool but don't want to waste $18 if it won't be useful. My dd will be in CLE LA 600 in the fall. Thanks!