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  1. Oh gosh...clearly I need to explore the program more. I didn't get past the TWSS or SSS and thought you *had* to do those first.
  2. Thank-you for bringing up psych evals. When my daughter was in Montessori preschool/kindergarten her teacher noticed a few *red flags*. The psychologist said she was a bit young for a PsychEd test, but the school offered to use some funding to pay for it so we went ahead. I just found some of my scribblings of her results. Everything was high-average (working memory, processing speed, visual/spatial, fluid reasoning)....everything *except* verbal comprehension (50%) and they said specifically 'verbally expressing concepts.' Their recommendations are very much in line with some of yours (like her getting concepts better in isolation, keeping things simpler/shorter, keeping learning visual and/or written). Oh, and they said she had some 'Emotional-Attention disregulation', but not ADHD. When my daughter went on to French PS for grades 1 to 4 the teachers said she was doing just fine and that she had been too young for the PsychEd results to be meaningful 🤔. And honestly, I was totally overwhelmed by the report... and since the public school disregarded it, I kinda did too! Soooo....I guess now I'm going to find her report and pop on over to the LC board to do some sleuthing! Hoping I can glean some more tips for maximizing her success in all learning. Really glad you brought up that *something* might be going here! Thank-you...this was very helpful! I'm considering the program... just a bit apprehensive due to the combined cost of the Structure and Style for teaching AND student. It's a bit of a leap!
  3. I just want to say a big THANK-YOU to everyone who replied to my post. There are some great options for curriculum here 😀 ...and you've all helped broaden my understanding of how to *think* about our writing journey in homeschooling. I've appreciated all the comments, perspectives, advice and support!
  4. The WTMA is a sort-of goal. It's only a goal if it works for her. I guess I just want her to be in a place where she *can* take online courses for her age level. And yes, some "going over" writing strategies would help me out 😄 Good advice for determining what her skill is using a straightforward dictation. To be honest, from what I have observed, she doesn't knows any rules. I think she is just guessing from her experience with reading. I'm *getting* that she needs extra support and structure. Thank-you for the variety of strategies to help with that structure. And I love the M&M rewards. She would love that. We DO have Ticket to Ride Europe, but haven't played it. We can try it....it looks just as painful as you described, but we will give it a go! 😄 Interesting what you are saying about ADHD. Sounds like your daughter could really compensate well enough that the issues were tough to detect. I'm glad to hear how well she's doing and that the meds helped so much. Nice to hear positive stories about medications! Good info! Hahah! Yes! I am having to learn so much about myself and my children! It's crazy. But so worth it. I'm making the plan 😄
  5. Her writing always makes me smile...always. ❤️ Thank you for sharing this! It sounds like your children benefited immensely from their literature exposure. It's encouraging for me to hear of others taking their kids out of public school at this stage. Yes, my daughter is definitely mimicking the style of the books she's been reading. We are broadening the scope of her literature and she's thriving with that change! 😀
  6. Thank you for your posts! So helpful to have different perspectives. Rod and Staff are on my radar too. My daughter would like the directness of the program. I have been trying out all manner of organizing and checklists for myself too. Keeping myself organized and focused is a huge part of the equation actually. I'm adhd too, and have managed just fine for decades. But the homeschooling is realllllllly stretching me 🙃 And I seem to be choosing every teacher intensive program on top of it. 😆 Thank you for sharing the demo checklist. This is true! FOMO is real! 😆 The reading passages in WWE are so lovely...I can't resist them. I will try them out with her...she's always game for anything Language Arts related. I agree that sticking to one thing is the most beneficial. We've *stayed the course* since the Fall and now I see where I want to adjust. I do want to stick to one thing for the next while, so I'm trying to be smart about my choice. Thank you again!
  7. I'll look at doing a test. Yes, it could be a combination of factors. She says she's never been taught punctuation or capitalization in school...buuuuut I'm not so sure that's the case 😆. We will definitely work some review in regardless.
  8. This comment about the Mensa book list made me LOL for real! 😂 Yes, she DOES have some real strengths. I think her mind thinks very big, but it's difficult for her to get it out. And she's consistently inconsistent (if that make sense). So your suggestion of 'Big Projects' with structure could be the ticket for her. Actually, even though she isn't diagnosed ADHD, a Dr. once suggested we read a *Girls with ADHD* book. He obviously suspected she might have some ADHD challenges.
  9. She loves French and was doing well! (Except Math was a struggle). I don't know how we are going to keep it up yet. I need to think about that too! Fairy tales in both languages is a great idea! She actually loves to practice typing and I will look at that program. I will go peruse LC! Yes...I'm starting to get that about Structure. It's like she needs the structure to *rest* on. I'm off to look at Mindwings! 😃
  10. I appreciate you letting me know your concern about using WWE with her. Thanks for sharing your daughters experience with that type of IEW program. I see what you are saying about IEW helping to give structure. Your concise outline of the skills we should focus on at this time is helpful. I was having a difficult time determining what her weaknesses were and what programs were available to address them. I haven't heard of Muse Magazine before, but I just looked it up and I'm so happy you mentioned it. She will enjoy that! Once again, thanks for your time and considerate responses. All very helpful.
  11. Only waiting because Cover Story is geared for grade 6-9. She's on the younger end of the recommended age and I think taking the time to work on a few foundational skills will help her be successful and enjoy the program more. I haven't looked at it closely yet actually. But good to remember that these kids grow/change fast!
  12. First of all....a big thank you! Your thoughtful response is very much appreciated. How interesting regarding the working memory ! You can tell that from her writing? I will look into this. We just worked through MCT Grammar Island. We are switching to something more structured, and will keep MCT as a fun supplement. Thanks for suggestions! We will be getting Killgallon. She will enjoy it too I think! Thank you for mentioning the reading material. I did a major clean-up of our literature recently. Good-bye 'Babysitters Club', hello 'Sleeping Beauty'! We are now using the 'Mensa for Kids Excellence in Reading Program' as a guide. I will look at the WTM list too. She loves to read and she is just fine with the *stretch.* She's starting to use her on-hand dictionary and thesaurus too. I should probably mention that she was in French Immersion PS from Grade 1- Grade 4. Everything was in French. We don't speak French, so when she came to homeschooling this past October it was a big change. No she has not been taught cursive. We actually have Getty-Dubay Italic (better for her left-handedness apparently) and will being it this week. And we have been alternating between writing and typing to get a sense of what works best. I just found out she liked working from checklists...just this week actually. She hasn't been diagnosed ADHD, but I suspect....so that you for your sharing your experiences of what worked for your daughter. This is all new to me! Thank you! Maybe the working memory games will help me too 😆 Very helpful information in regards to poor working memory and WWE style narration. I definitely want to maintain her love for writing. I just started WWE I with my younger daughter who I actually suspected of having poor working memory....and the narrating back IS torture for her. Great advice! I truly appreciate the time you took to respond. Wonderful to have such a helpful community here.
  13. Thank you for taking the time to share your experience with those programs...very helpful! I was wondering too about a program like IEW, but the consensus seems to be that it can be stifling for natural writers. Maybe an option for my dd7 though, who I think will struggle with writing. Is it the W&R *Fable* level that helps to find the main idea? 🤔
  14. Yes, I like all this! And Treasured Conversations was on my radar as an option. Glad to hear you think it's a good fit. Does it touch on summarizing? We are struggling with that now. It seems so obvious to me what the main points are in a paragraph or reading, and I don't know how to guide *her* to figure it out for herself. 😕 Thanks for the comments on Wordsworth Apprentice too. Sounds like a great option for summer. And I suspect my dd7 has a LD (really struggling with reading still...but slow, steady progress), so Wordsworth Apprentice might be a good option for her too in the future. We watched the sample for Cover Story last night and dd10 LOVED it. She was hooked. All your suggestions will be helpful in shoring up her (and my!) skills so she can be successful with that program come Grade 6. Thank you again.
  15. Please stir away!!! 😆 Thank you for all that! I think she would love the Fix It style of grammar! I had been looking at Wordsmith Apprentice too. I haven't heard of Cover Story or Adventures in Fantasy, but will look them up. Much to consider. Thanks for the 2 cents.
  16. ...also thanks for mentioning the importance of keeping the voice hers. Even though her writing/grammar skills need some work, I do have to consider that perhaps her zest and joy for writing has partly to do with the lack of instruction 🤔 😂.
  17. Ok, great info. So one option is WWE 3, with TC or Killgallon alongside....and then grammar to tie in too (either FLL or Junior Analytical Grammar). Good to know! She does have her grammatical terms down pretty well after MCT Island and it would be great to apply them. I have watched Dictation with Dan and will watch again as soon as we start dictation. Auditory work is tough for her, so I will have her do copywork for just a couple weeks first I think...she really needs some visual reinforcement with capitalization and punctuation. She is a bright girl though and I know she will move quickly with the right approach. Thank you!
  18. Thanks Moon! We actually did the placement test for WWE and she was floundering right from the beginning. Mistakes on the copywork etc...so according to the placement test she should start with level 1! However I know of course, that would be silly. Perhaps it would be helpful to have the instructor text to sort out the weaknesses very specifically! Thank-you for clarifying the strengths of Treasured Conversations and Killgallon. Isn't First Language Lessons for very young children though? And I read that it is best for auditory learners which dd10 is NOT...she is very visual. Good point too about focusing on the grammar alongside the writing. I will look at Junior Analytical Grammar...I see it on Cathy Duffy's reviews and it looks great too! She just finished MCT Grammar Island and while she enjoyed it (it's funny!), I don't see any of it being applied to her own writing.
  19. She is definitely enthusiastic and loves the material! I just don't know how to teach her without taking over. I need a refresher myself on how to 'think' about writing. It's been a decade+ since college and my writing days. I'm hoping some curriculum will refresh me, and then perhaps I can fly solo. Thank you for your response...I will try that still! Thanks for your advice! I have started WWE I with my youngest daughter and in a spontaneous moment last week bought the other WWE levels too. I could start WWE III with dd10 and see how it goes. And good to know that Fables would be the place to start for W&R...I wasn't sure if I should choose a higher level. Thanks for the input! Appreciate it! It seems that Killgallon is very well regarded here. Do you think she would start with Killgallon Sentence composing for Elementary? Not middle school?
  20. Here is a sample of her writing from SoTW in case anyone can read it and offer suggestions. I realize there is another place to post writing, but it seems to make more sense to place it with this post.
  21. I’m looking for advice on how to get my new-to-homeschooling dd10 up-to-speed with her writing. She’s an enthusiastic and humorous writer, but needs to build her foundation skills. Everything from punctuation, to word choice, to organization, to sentence structure, to her whole ‘tone’ (which is very informal). She also has a hard time teasing out the important information. She loves to write and will go on…and on…with no end, lol. If I limit her space for writing she will just write smaller and smaller so she can fit more in! It just seems that she hasn’t had much writing guidance in her 4 years at ps. For Language Arts this year, we have been working through the whole MCT Island curriculum. ‘The people’ at RFWP recommended we start at the beginning Island level despite her older age. She’s been doing SoTW 1 along with dd7, however I’ve supplemented her reading with notebooking assignments and more challenging/age-appropriate reading material. I’ve actually just switched her to History Odyssey Level 2 Ancients though…which is geared for grade 5 and looks to give some guidance on building summarizing skills and then outlining (she loves the checklist style of each lesson.) My GOAL is to build-up her writing skills from now through the summer, and hopefully have her moving towards a more grade appropriate curriculum in her grade 6 year (2021-2022). I’m thinking I would like her to be on track to do WTMA Expository Writing for grade 7. And of course I want to maintain and grow her love for writing…and just help her to really fly with it! Should I do an accelerated WWE mash-up of all the levels? Just do WWE 3? Treasured Conversations? Wordsworth Apprentice? W&R Fable or Narrative 1 or higher level? Killgallon Sentence composing? Outlining 5-8 by Remedia Publications? ...IEW? Thoughts please! Also, I’ve been reading SWB’s TWTM and searching this forum extensively. I do feel I need a bit of hand-holding with teaching writing. I’m not ready to ‘write across the curriculum and find my own narrations etc. Not yet at least. Any thoughts and advice is very appreciated. And if you made it this far, THANK-YOU for reading my long post!
  22. Testing here...new homeschooler as of this past September.
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